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SSG games - 11/24/2016 9:05:21 PM   
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Are there still fans of SSG games out there? These games were fun but it was a so huge task to design a scenario that not much came with Kharkov.
Shame, will we see something else from them coming?
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RE: SSG games - 11/24/2016 9:12:54 PM   
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Are there still fans of SSG games out there? These games were fun but it was a so huge task to design a scenario that not much came with Kharkov.
Shame, will we see something else from them coming?


I'm a fan, and have been since their original Battlefront games came in for the C64 in the mid 80's I think. (not sure of the year)

And I've played their latest games as well. I thought I saw something this past spring or summer about possibly a new game, but I haven't seen or heard anything recently.

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RE: SSG games - 11/24/2016 10:36:26 PM   
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I'm a fan, and have been since their original Battlefront games came in for the C64 in the mid 80's I think. (not sure of the year)


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RE: SSG games - 11/24/2016 10:39:45 PM   
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The user made Stalingrad scenario for Battlefront I think is such a waste of one amazing looking map as it has no AI> If SSG just made an AI for that map and sold ti I'd buy ASAP..go check the forums to see what I'm talking about...best computer Stalingrad map I've seen.

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RE: SSG games - 11/25/2016 2:01:49 AM   
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Big fan of ssg, battles in Italy is my favorite. Loaded them up on win10 a few months ago but everything was too small and no wide screen fix. Shame really as there fun games. Battles in Italy had a bunch of user made stuff.

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RE: SSG games - 11/25/2016 2:47:35 AM   
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I'm a fan, and have been since their original Battlefront games came in for the C64 in the mid 80's I think. (not sure of the year)

1986 to be exact on Battlefront. However, I liked their games they did for/under/with SSI better (ie. Germany 1985 series, Southern Command (nearly the same).

But you haven't really played SSG until you play the Rebel Force scenario in Computer conflict (published by SSI in 1980)!

Oddly enough, Unlike a seeming majority, I like the latest iteration of Carriers at War (far more than I did the original (I missed the in-betweens)... But that could be influenced by being the first time I've won a Midway scenario in any game on any computer or on any table.)

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RE: SSG games - 11/25/2016 4:00:47 AM   
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In my opinion, they are the best wargame/pc games ever made. Every year I hope that Matrix re-does these (BII, Kharkov, BIN, Korsun Pocket)...

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RE: SSG games - 11/25/2016 4:14:12 AM   
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I think I can say SSG are actually working on something at the moment. Though that's all I know.

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RE: SSG games - 11/25/2016 11:22:10 PM   
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I still have a few of the original games in a drawer. Rommel and MacArthur for the C64.

They were great games

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RE: SSG games - 11/26/2016 1:24:16 AM   
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I also have a number of SSG titles sitting on a shelf in my gaming room. But I doubt we will see many--if any--more games released by SSG. According to MobyGames the last game SSG released was in 2005. And after Ian Trout died in 2011, I gave up hope of seeing any new SSG releases.

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RE: SSG games - 11/26/2016 8:58:54 AM   
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I loved the Battlefront games but when they redid them I couldn't get into them

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RE: SSG games - 11/26/2016 11:31:37 PM   
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I also have a number of SSG titles sitting on a shelf in my gaming room. But I doubt we will see many--if any--more games released by SSG. According to MobyGames the last game SSG released was in 2005. And after Ian Trout died in 2011, I gave up hope of seeing any new SSG releases.


I think they released Kharkov, Disaster on the Donets in 2008 and and expansion Across the Dnepr in 2010.

But I don't recall anything coming out since then.

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 12:49:55 AM   
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Just go take a look at this Stalingrad scenario map and tell me you wouldn't buy a Stalingrad game that consists of this with an AI?

I'd buy it at a drop of a hat..

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 7:49:32 AM   
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That is a thing of beauty Wodin. Like you say, if it had a, half decent, AI...................

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 12:00:55 PM   
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Alan, isn't it? One the best maps I've seen for a wargame on the PC and it's going to waste!

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 12:17:43 PM   
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I couldn't agree more Jason. I have felt for some time, that with all of the re-hashing, re-releasing of older titles that the SSG library screams for this. The core game play, mechanics, CRT's, modifier tables,etc. are all so outstanding and the AI's, in all of the games are really well done. Until I upgraded to Window's 10, they had a permanent place on my desktop. But now, the limited resolution and smaller windowed mode kills these games for me. I sincerely hope they are going to revisit the entire catalog one day and re-publish it.

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 2:16:06 PM   
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Anyone have a screenshot of this map, or a link to one?

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 3:14:27 PM   
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see my post further up:)

Still here you go:)

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 3:24:36 PM   
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Greetings Capitaine,
Stalingrad scenario map for Battlefront
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1813805

It is interesting to note that the original Battlefront (Commodore C-64 for me) came with Stalingrad scenario with Novorossik as a add on.
Matrixgames/SSG version is reversed.
I owned all the SSG C-64 titles and had all the Run5 magazines and typed in all the free scenario data they provided in each issue.
Run5 link to all downloadable issues: (it is a blast from the past to read the adds for the games)
http://roger-keating.squarespace.com/run5-magazine/

The Civil War games were great as well as The War in the East 1941-1945

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 5:24:36 PM   
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Greetings Capitaine,
Stalingrad scenario map for Battlefront
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1813805

It is interesting to note that the original Battlefront (Commodore C-64 for me) came with Stalingrad scenario with Novorossik as a add on.
Matrixgames/SSG version is reversed.
I owned all the SSG C-64 titles and had all the Run5 magazines and typed in all the free scenario data they provided in each issue.
Run5 link to all downloadable issues: (it is a blast from the past to read the adds for the games)
http://roger-keating.squarespace.com/run5-magazine/

The Civil War games were great as well as The War in the East 1941-1945



I also had all of their Battlefront series, their Civil War series and their War in the East. And I still have their Run5 mags sitting on a shelf downstairs.

Thanks
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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 6:29:55 PM   
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My favorite SSG game was Europe Ablaze. The thing I liked about all the SSG games was the ability to create your own scenarios (including adding new units and aircraft types).





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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 9:34:48 PM   
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My favorite SSG game was Europe Ablaze....


That was in 1985. How time flies!

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 10:02:56 PM   
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Rick, I still have a bunch of those RUN 5 magazines. I liked the Europe Ablaze picture. I used to type in all the stuff as well

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RE: SSG games - 11/27/2016 10:39:17 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rommel222

Greetings Capitaine,
Stalingrad scenario map for Battlefront
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1813805

It is interesting to note that the original Battlefront (Commodore C-64 for me) came with Stalingrad scenario with Novorossik as a add on.
Matrixgames/SSG version is reversed.
I owned all the SSG C-64 titles and had all the Run5 magazines and typed in all the free scenario data they provided in each issue.
Run5 link to all downloadable issues: (it is a blast from the past to read the adds for the games)
http://roger-keating.squarespace.com/run5-magazine/

The Civil War games were great as well as The War in the East 1941-1945



Thanks Rick. That is indeed a very attractive map. A shame no one could fashion an AI for it. That would be a good project for SSG to work on, if they're inclined.

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RE: SSG games - 11/29/2016 1:15:21 PM   
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I asked Rodger about an AI..seems it's a lot more complicated than appears so sadly doesn't look feasible.

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RE: SSG games - 11/29/2016 11:25:26 PM   
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Still have them all loaded, some don't play too well under W10 though. I fire them up for old times sake...still some of the best operational level wargames ever made.

There were also some excellent user made scenarios - Fall Gelb/Rotfor BiI (I think) and a Prokhorovka scenario (using Battlefront...again I think) are among the best.

The community was quite active between about 2003-2010 with a number of tournaments and multi-player games but interest waned considerably.

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RE: SSG games - 11/30/2016 4:55:39 PM   
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Battles in Italy was my favorite. I started with Battlefront but liked the older version more. There are lots of user made scenarios HERE but a minority have AI for single player.
Fall Gelb (France 1940) was my favorite mod, it is as good as a professional release

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RE: SSG games - 12/23/2018 3:45:05 AM   
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Budd the Stalingrad scenario ive just downloaded,now i know its PBEM only and i didnt see this beforehand!Time to find some opponents as ive just bought my first ever two SSG titles and plan on buying a couple more before the months out.I hope all the community made scenarios out there dont all turn out to be PBEM only.Fingers crossed.If anyone wants to challenge me to any of these SSG games Kharkov and Battlefront pm me and ill accept.

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RE: SSG games - 12/23/2018 6:37:23 AM   
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Fall Gelb (France 1940) was my favorite mod, it is as good as a professional release



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RE: SSG games - 12/23/2018 9:45:29 AM   
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The best games. And easy to play

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