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Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/7/2016 6:58:31 PM   
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I have a mission on the UK side where I have subs and ships in dock and the mission uses all of them. I have modified the weapons mag in the sub for this mission but after doing that they will not launch. I have made the mag all torpedoes and when you look at the mag after a few minutes of play it tries to put a tomahawk back into the mag even though it is full. Let me know if I am doing something wrong here. Latest DB and game.

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/10/2016 9:36:38 PM   
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Anyone know the answer?

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/10/2016 10:17:06 PM   
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Ok

I tested your file. Added UK sided mags to port with torps and thawks nothing launches until I give the manual order.

I build a fresh scenario with a docked sub assigned to an patrol mission it launches just fine.

First, have you modified the db?
Any other clicks or settings you remember setting? I'm trying to replicate to see if can repeat the behavior but not having any luck.

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/10/2016 10:36:29 PM   
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Everything is stock and I am using the newest database. It seems anytime I mod the mags with ships or subs they will never launch. I will try a new setup and see if that works. Maybe I will try something simple in a test.

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/10/2016 10:48:29 PM   
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Ok, here is a small test. I put a ship on the UK side and assigned a patrol mission with the weapons load out different from stock. The first thing it does is go to the dock and try to load weapons. It can't because I have changed them. It sits at the dock and does not launch.

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/11/2016 2:16:04 AM   
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Analysis
The reason for withdrawing as shown on the log is:
10/07/2016 6:00:15 AM: CG 21 is withdrawing (Reason: Primary attack weapon (RGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV TACTOM) now at less than 25%).
These weapons on the ship are less than the what shows in the database viewer as normal loadout.
And there is no room on weapon mount for anymore to be loaded due to the additional weapons that have been loaded there(eg viewer shows 0 x RUM-130, but the ship has 8 x RUM-130d loaded on the mount).
Not quite sure what the loading process compares the current weapon load to ...


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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/11/2016 5:38:18 AM   
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Yes I get that but I changed the weapons for the specific mission. Will the boats not launch if the weapon counts change? I also want the ships to reload based on the rules but based on the weapons. I am not sure how to make this happen??

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/11/2016 8:03:58 AM   
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"I also want the ships to reload based on the rules but based on the weapons" <--- ???

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/11/2016 5:13:37 PM   
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What I mean is, shouldn't I be able to change the weapon numbers and have the 25% reload act upon the new configuration?

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/11/2016 5:55:21 PM   
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No, the way it works is that the set percentages are always compared against the stock configuration.

See also: http://www.warfaresims.com/?p=4215

And especially the note on the manual addendum: http://www.warfaresims.com/?page_id=2711
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[NOTE #1: The definition of primary attack/defence weapon points to the longest-ranged ASuW weapon (attack) and AAW/ASW (defence) weapon, and uses the default DB-fed values for reference. So for example if an Aegis cruiser is stocked with SM-2s on its DB-pristine version but the scen author opts to clean them out and re-stock with TLAMs and a few ESSMs, the cruiser is considered as "primary defence weapon exhausted" even though it still has the ESSMs].


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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/11/2016 6:01:27 PM   
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Why it works this way:

Imagine, in the above scenario, if the Aegis cruiser runs out of SM-2s and switches to considering the ESSMs as its primary defensive weapon. After a few more engagements, it is now out of ESSMs and practically naked to air attack. So it withdraws too late from the battle line and is lost. Who's to blame?

(This is similar to the Harpoon-era "F-14s shoot their Phoenix missiles and press on suicidaly instead of withdrawing" problem that we spent an awful amount of time and effort to overcome)

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RE: Docked Boats Not Launching - 9/11/2016 7:02:03 PM   
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Got it. Thanks for the explanation. I will change the scenario to fit.

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