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How do they bypass security on site? - 7/9/2016 11:14:05 AM   
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I just noticed the spam posts and was wondering on how they get through the security. I don't want to do it but just curious how they get through the matrix code image. I don't press on anything these days.
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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/9/2016 11:41:43 AM   
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usually its a brute force algorithm, in other words the thing that spawns them tries to find a match to the security. I'd guess that what we see is a minimal proportion of the ones that get trapped.

From experience elsewhere, these things don't usually want you to follow any embedded links. They want to be opened as that will give the embedded link more prevalence in google etc search engines (as one factor that is in the ranking is the number of 'active' links to a given website). So best advice is never to even open a thread where one has been till its been splatted.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/9/2016 12:37:52 PM   
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They're hitting the Ageod forums a lot worse.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/9/2016 12:54:54 PM   
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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/9/2016 2:21:46 PM   
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I just noticed the spam posts and was wondering on how they get through the security. I don't want to do it but just curious how they get through the matrix code image. I don't press on anything these days.
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WOW, I just used the link you gave. It works. I hate the captcha thing (I get it wrong way too many times ). Bookmarked!!

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/11/2016 5:08:50 PM   
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It's almost always using a person, I know - low tech right! It's very cheap to outsource spamming...

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 4:42:08 AM   
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well it seems nothing works, as same user maybe just keeps making more name, more spam each and every day.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 6:48:13 AM   
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It's almost always using a person, I know - low tech right! It's very cheap to outsource spamming...

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These will be people doing this? I thought it was some sort of automated thing?

Wow. Imagine being the person online doing this now? What shall I do with my life today? Go to work? Be a useful member of society? Educate myself? or even spam a site with interesting, witty or funny banter? Nope I shall sit at my key board writing the same inane stuff over and over because that sort of thing really pumps my nads. Wow. That is so pathetic. That is some life. Somewhere, a village or two are missing their idiots....


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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 6:50:37 AM   
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Actually that is quite funny. The sad loser jessatyvx has edited his posts. Well maybe he was checking for spelling and grammar.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 6:53:15 AM   
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just feel sad for them, as what a waste of time

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:00:40 AM   
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I guess some people will do anything for the Matrix Legion of Merit 5-stars.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:08:09 AM   
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yep, seems so

not be long and someone will be up and it will all be removed

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:21:45 AM   
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Nope I shall sit at my key board writing the same inane stuff over and over because that sort of thing really pumps my nads.


Um, I don't think they do it for fun, it is their job. Surely not a lucrative job, but probably not much on offer in whatever ****ty city they're in.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:26:44 AM   
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Nope I shall sit at my key board writing the same inane stuff over and over because that sort of thing really pumps my nads.


Um, I don't think they do it for fun, it is their job. Surely not a lucrative job, but probably not much on offer in whatever ****ty city they're in.
warspite1

Um, well what does that mean? Their job? You make it sound like they are gainfully employed. Employed by whom, earning what and why? What do their 'employers' get out of it?


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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:32:55 AM   
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it's a Korean casino he keeps going on about, the site like him have both been reported, as the spam capital on the world, don't think it will make any difference, but if enough people do complain, Korea will do something about it, as they won't want the bad name.

some mass spammers can make a not bad income out of it, then again not in maybe westerners terms maybe, why they do it is plain and simple, they think by doing it yo will go and spend money online with them, which is the opposite of what happens, you go a million miles in the different direction, as if they are run by idiots who spam, why would any one with half a brain go there, sad really

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:40:45 AM   
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Sorry, but I don't really understand this stuff, and I don't get how sending this stuff - which is unreadable to just about everyone on this forum - achieves anything for the people sending it. Why would this person(s) be paid for their 'efforts' this morning?

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:44:49 AM   
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me neither, that why i told him he was a failed spammer, as rule 101 is to spam in the language of the place you are targeting, which he hasn't so for a start has no clue on what he's doing and has made no effort to understand why he will in the end fail, plain and simple


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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:45:53 AM   
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the gain is that they have more active links to their website. In turn that makes their site more likely to appear at the top of the google search rankings etc.

few of these things these days actually care if you use the link (though that helps them a little), but masses of potential referal links are apparently something that is useful.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:51:17 AM   
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best imo is one to find out which country a given user or site comes from, then report them to the local government department, who all now days have English speaking sites.

http://www.police.go.kr/eng/main/contents.do?menuNo=500105 


spamcop@kisa.or.kr 


email address for Korean spam police website and email address, report with details and user info, site can give IP's details, and then just show spam links and let them deal with the spammer

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:51:22 AM   
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But why do they need to spam so much (posts)? The links you mention, is that one link for each post?

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:54:50 AM   
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it's like Loki said above, it gives them traffic, which improves ranking, which in turn improves revenue over time, if they don't upset too many in the process, which they will do if enough report them and the site, as nobody can stand bad press, as the Korean atm are the spam capital of the world, with more than a few Asian countries not far behind either.

what happens is, or could as i'm only a user / member like everyone else, is we all suffer if the site here add's more protection, for a few idiots who come and spoil the site, as if the protection goes up, it us here who it ends up effecting, not a idiot who only comes a day and gets banned the same day, then re joins the next and another day later as a newer member

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 7:56:11 AM   
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Time for the fork again.

And zakblood, this time I have a plate.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 8:00:12 AM   
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it's like Loki said above, it gives them traffic, which improves ranking, which in turn improves revenue over time, if they don't upset too many in the process, which they will do if enough report them and the site, as nobody can stand bad press, as the Korean atm are the spam capital of the world, with more than a few Asian countries not far behind either.

what happens is, or could as i'm only a user / member like everyone else, is we all suffer if the site here add's more protection, for a few idiots who come and spoil the site, as if the protection goes up, it us here who it ends up effecting, not a idiot who only comes a day and gets banned the same day, then re joins the next and another day later as a newer member
warspite1

Yes but I was trying to understand what constitutes 'traffic' or 'links'. I would have thought (like I understand any of this ****) that it would be one site = one link. So why a billion stupid posts on one site?

And if they are so pointless then why is the 'brains of the outfit' actually paying them?

I'm too old for this nonsense.


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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 8:01:58 AM   
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i've had my breakfast, now testing, so spam makes no difference to me, blocking a IP serves little point, as they can alter and change or most can unless kids, ban email addresses, well same again you just make more of them, ban a country range of IP's, then you block also good people from a given area, and also they get round it with using Proxies, so it's back to catch 22 and sign up, making a user copy a given code is all well and good, as anyone can copy anything, even if you can't read it or understand the meaning, but something needs to be in place where maybe you answer a given question so understanding of the language is needed, but then again that's stop some who aren't also native speakers of English, so again members suffer, so it's not so easy

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 8:03:12 AM   
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it's like Loki said above, it gives them traffic, which improves ranking, which in turn improves revenue over time, if they don't upset too many in the process, which they will do if enough report them and the site, as nobody can stand bad press, as the Korean atm are the spam capital of the world, with more than a few Asian countries not far behind either.

what happens is, or could as i'm only a user / member like everyone else, is we all suffer if the site here add's more protection, for a few idiots who come and spoil the site, as if the protection goes up, it us here who it ends up effecting, not a idiot who only comes a day and gets banned the same day, then re joins the next and another day later as a newer member
warspite1

Yes but I was trying to understand what constitutes 'traffic' or 'links'. I would have thought (like I understand any of this ****) that it would be one site = one link. So why a billion stupid posts on one site?

And if they are so pointless then why is the 'brains of the outfit' actually paying them?

I'm too old for this nonsense.



me neither, as i also would have thought one post would get the message across, but it seems he wishes to be here until someone kicks him out, which maybe be a while longer yet

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 8:05:57 AM   
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maybe a rule needs bringing in where as a new user can only post one message per day, then only unlocked once a mod has approved his first message posted, so without approval even his first post is blocked?

mine are still blocked waiting for approval over at ageod site, yes me, seems i'm a bad risk lol

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?44029-A-new-age-of-war-is-coming-and-Ageod-is-ready-to-bring-it-to-you!


only been a week waiting for approval so seem a congratulation message from me was a spam post also, where as the 4 who posted after me saying one thing or another got by

so i tend to not go tbh where i'm not wanted or post with such restriction so also understand what ever rules gets put in place will upset some, as i know it does me at times

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 8:18:25 AM   
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and here's some spam of mine own, this is home grown spam, comes in 3 flavors

with the first one space,

http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/sabre_howworks.html



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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 8:58:55 AM   
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Look like someone left the door open here, we got pests roaming around again.

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 9:01:40 AM   
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not my fault, i'm only here for the cookies

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RE: How do they bypass security on site? - 7/13/2016 3:20:22 PM   
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and here's some spam of mine own, this is home grown spam, comes in 3 flavors

with the first one space,

http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/sabre_howworks.html




The SABRE engine concept is extremely interesting and Skylon just looks right.

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