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windows 10 compatibility testing - 4/20/2016 5:33:51 PM   
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test pc used, with a fresh install of the latest windows 10 version, windows 10 home, version number 1511, build 10586





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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 4/20/2016 6:14:31 PM   
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set this to match your desktop or preferred screen size and quality settings and likes

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 4/20/2016 6:14:47 PM   
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game works 100% out of the box on windows 10 64bit on home and pro version with no files needing altering apart from those shown above, run as admin is all the game needs to run and work

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 6/11/2016 10:57:46 AM   
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Ok that`s good news....Running well on my Win 8.1....but I had to change my PC time format.
Something about this game that keeps me coming back from time to time. would love to see a new version.

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/13/2016 7:26:04 PM   
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i have done all this now but as soon as i hit play - it goes briefly black and then crashes back to desktop

its quite strange what it is doing - well i guess not strange, just headscratching - i hit play, scratch flashes black as if to start game, but then flashes back to desktop, then maybe another brief flash to black, but then back to desktop

i cannot for the life of me understand why this particular game is doing this, it worked fine for me under windows 7, but now having upgraded last month, it is doing this - even after i followed your listed steps for a reinstall

could this be the language isssue or something? i live in australia and have English (australian) as my computers language

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/13/2016 7:36:38 PM   
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so you have uninstalled the game?

as you have a upgraded to windows 10 version correct?

and followed all above and still it doesn't work for you?

what i'm trying to find out is, if it's already on the pc, and the pc got upgraded, and you have just tried to play it, it may not work, as the codec's and Direct X files are different, but if it's a new install of the game, following the guides above it should work fine, if it doesn't, i need a DXD report to see what's happening.

How to get a DxDiag report file:

1. Click on "START" (on Windows 8 press “Windows key” and the “R” key at the same time)
2. Click "run" (skip this step on Windows 8 )
3. Type in "dxdiag" and click "OK"
4. Check through the tabs and perform all tests
5. Click "Save all Information..." and save the text file to a location of your choice

We prefer that DxDiag files be posted as message attachments (zip) rather than pasted into the body of the post.


add the exe of the game to your Anti Virus and firewall program, to make sure check the logs of these to see if it was one if any of them was to blame.

That usually means a 3rd party program, like an Internet security programs, is or could be interfering with the game or update installation.

run the game from a admin account and use full admin permissions.

please make sure all game pre requisite are installed with the game, even if you think or fully know there are already installed, it will only over write, and it may be that you have a older or newer version of these where as the game in question may need a certain version.

please make sure you are running the latest game version and have up to date drivers installed on your pc,

If you have the original version. So you'll need to update it from the Internet.
Please note that you'll only need the last update, as the updates are comprehensive. (not needed with steam)

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/13/2016 8:05:07 PM   
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HI Zak

yes i have done all these steps - i had ostfront on the laptop already when i upgraded and it didnt work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled just a moment added in all the settings as you described, but still just a brief black screen and i am back to desktop. I was trying this from a full admin state, ie uac off and local security policy settings disabled, but still no go

attahced is my dxdiag, - i havent look at this and i guess i dont really know what i am looking for, but if there is anything you can see which may explain things, that would be great

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/13/2016 9:31:14 PM   
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all i can see on this is your using an older version of windows, Threshold 2 build, which has been replaced and updated to the Anniversary Update or what's known as "Redstone" (RS1)), was released on August 2, 2016 as fixes a lot of bugs that the build your on uses.

what to do now, imo a fresh install of windows is better than a upgraded version, but that may not fix the issue you have also atm, so you can either wait for the new version to download and install, or try and fix the issue your having, which may or may not work.

now you have a upgrade, your pc is licienced for windows 10, so as long as you don't change too much hardware, a fresh install of a new ISO image from M/S won't need a keep either, as M/S servers keep a copy of your hardware when you upgraded.

regarding your report, you have a dual GPU pc, so a Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 + a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M in your laptop, you need to go into Nvidia tools and make sure the default is the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M so the game knows to use it and not the GPU on the CPU

Open the Nvidia Control Panel and locate Manage 3D Settings. Change, in both Global and Program, the Preferred Graphics Processor to High Performance NVIDIA Processor.

or,

heck if Nvidia is set as the preferred graphic card:
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/infraworks-360/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-force-your-laptop-to-Run-with-Graphics-Processor-vs-the-default-Integrated-Graphics-for-InfraWorks.html

plus drivers aren't up to date either 13-Jul-15

free space is getting low

Free Space: 37.0 GB

Free Space: 35.3 GB

regarding temp files and swap files, and other hard driver users of your O/S, more is always better than less, not really a issue atm, but if you have upgraded you also could gain some back by running a cleaning tool / program built into windows to claw back some

http://lifehacker.com/reclaim-disk-space-after-windows-10-update-by-deleting-1720934718

you have a lot of codec's on the pc, most will be either dupes or some may be broken as well, as not all codec programs which add new ones repair or update the ones you have and some leave older dupes on the pc as well, unused until a program tries to use it, then errors because of it's broken on no longer in use etc or not the correct version for the O/S in use.

Problem signature:

P1: PCOstfront.exe

also,

Problem signature:

P1: EngRel.exe

and another error,

Problem signature:

P1: uninstall.exe_Setup Factory Runtime

plus

Problem signature:

P1: autorun.exe

P2: 1.0.0.0

P3: Game Menu

P4: Panzer Command Ostfront

so don't use the shortcut auto run and go straight to the game exe and make a new shortcut then and re try that, it may work it may not...

Event Name: CompatEntityAnalysis_1

Response: Not available

Cab Id: 1



Problem signature: means something isn't compatible and has failed to load, but doesn't say what

and another,

Problem signature:

P1: DinoHordeGame.exe

and another

Problem signature:

P1: GoatGame-Win32-Shipping.exe

and last but not least, last one

Problem signature:

P1: DeadEffect.exe

so my opinion is you have more than one issue, most if not all will be fixed with a fresh clean install, yes not a great solution for a old game, but to fix it in other ways means a user needs to be in front on the pc, looking to see what errors and what is loaded to disable and retry.

for me a clean load, so the least amount of background apps and programs running is better than a load of clutter, then see what does work and what doesn't, as some apps and programs don't like to run with others, it's that simple, but finding out what is the hard and long part.

a clean installs gives you a chance of a clean slate and start, load only what you use, and not something that you may have used a few years ago that may still load every boot.

good luck


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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 1:40:45 AM   
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i have done all this now but as soon as i hit play - it goes briefly black and then crashes back to desktop

its quite strange what it is doing - well i guess not strange, just headscratching - i hit play, scratch flashes black as if to start game, but then flashes back to desktop, then maybe another brief flash to black, but then back to desktop

i cannot for the life of me understand why this particular game is doing this, it worked fine for me under windows 7, but now having upgraded last month, it is doing this - even after i followed your listed steps for a reinstall

could this be the language isssue or something? i live in australia and have English (australian) as my computers language


I wouldn't expect it to be a language issue. The person who did most of the programming for PCO is in Australia.

Make sure you go through the configuration settings I think Zak shows this in step 12 -13. You can try setting to your native desktop screen resolution (or just try 1024 x 768 or 1366 x 768 ).

Also, if you get to the point where game actually starts there is a log file generated. You might take a look at that. The log file is located in the games log folder (see attached screen). The log file is a text file that has the date as part of the name. You can open with notepad or some other text reader. You could post it and I can take a look.

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 3:20:46 AM   
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okay thanks for all this - quite alot to got through

i dont really know what codecs to keep or lose, i have a bunch of old games installed is i am big fan of old games - ones from the 90s and 2000s, maybe they have added to teh broken codecs or something?

regarding those files you had listed of Dinohorde, goat and deadeffect - those are all games on steam i have played briefly this week, so i am not sure what their listing means. those games all played fine.

also what drivers are not up to date? my nvidia ones, true i havent updated them since prior to upgrading so you recommend this?

regarding the intel card - i am never sure how to even update these, but also i did check and it seems that card is upto date driver wise i think





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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 3:23:36 AM   
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a clean install maybe what is needed but can you tell me where i can find the easiest instructions on how to do this, because i do not know how to do it.

also i havent removed the old windows install yet because i still am wondering whether just to go back to windows 7

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 4:12:09 AM   
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http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to-clean-install-windows-10/

http://lifehacker.com/how-to-do-a-clean-install-of-windows-10-1720775893

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-do-clean-installation-windows-10

pick one you understand the most, just download the tool and image etc for me, making sure you have the latest one, and back what you need before you start

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 6:14:36 AM   
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a clean install maybe what is needed but can you tell me where i can find the easiest instructions on how to do this, because i do not know how to do it.

also i havent removed the old windows install yet because i still am wondering whether just to go back to windows 7


before going through and doing a clean windows install, you might want to check the PCO log file. I think once you do a clean Windows 10 install, you won't have your Win 7 files to allow you to go back.

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 10:25:22 AM   
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i will check that out to see, if there is a logfile there, but if not, i may do a rollback to windows 7 rather than a clean install, though first i will also upgrade my nvidia drivers to see if that fixes anything

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 10:37:32 AM   
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there is no logfile in the ostfront folder, so i will upgrade the nvidia drivers

i wish i could try a clean install, but then if it doesnt work, go back to windows 7 - i hate that it is either or

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 11:17:33 AM   
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well the nvidia card update didnt work and so i think i will go back to windows 7 and leave windows 10 until i need it, even though i will have to pay for it then, but so be it,

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 11:26:33 AM   
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on the same hardware it's free, as you have done the update / upgrade once, so as long as you don't change too much hardware it will work again when your ready to upgrade, there servers keep a copy of your hardware etc, so won't be an issue or problem at a later date.

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 12:11:29 PM   
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oh right thats interesting - well i have gone back to windows 7 now, but it seems the ostfront non start issue has come back from the other side with me - please can you tell me at all what exactly may be causing this from the dx file - you mentioned alot of stuff but i am not sure what you were saying in relation to PzCO and what was just pointing out problems

i am really at my wits end as to what the so specific bug is that just pzco refuses to start

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing - 8/14/2016 1:33:37 PM   
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the log file doesn't say much tbh, it gives clues and most is guess work, while the PCO log file is more game related and would be interesting to see, as then it would or could point to any issues like missing files or something else i'm sorry to say

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