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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/1/2016 5:45:16 PM   
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With less need for AP's (have you put any units in STATIC mode ??? I've not seen it used in late 42-43 AAR's), why not start building a Maginot-like network in front and behind major rivers ?? Set Fortified zones at 50 % TOE (about 700 troops) and let them slowly build. At 4 AP a pop you could use 1/2 of each turn's AP supply to build 3-4 a turn. 4 Fortified zones a turn x 50 turns would create an impressive network at minimal manpower expense. I've seen the late 44- early 45 massive defense buildup close to Berlin, but not earlier, or focused on d-lines in Russia, particularly in the vast,vulnerable clear terrain in the Ukraine.




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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/1/2016 11:32:06 PM   
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I think David has ambitions of total victory (260 VP). So spending resources on defensive works is not in the game plan.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/2/2016 1:30:41 AM   
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I think David has ambitions of total victory (260 VP). So spending resources on defensive works is not in the game plan.


Yes this is over.

Brian really played below his normal game here.

Losing Moscow is game set match 99% of the time.


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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/2/2016 3:19:42 PM   
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I agree Brian has a lost game and Sillyflower is administering the 'touché finale', but my question still stands... should the German commander commit a large number of AP's beginning in '42 to set up a extensive fortified zone network ??/ I haven't seen it. Also is the use of Static mode a thing of the past ??

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/2/2016 7:17:39 PM   
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Also is the use of Static mode a thing of the past ??


I don't think Static mode was ever a real option (apart for the Russians in the very early incarnations of the game) as there is no real benefit to be had by doing it, in fact it could be considered to be a suicide move as it allows mobile forces to surround pocket & destroy any static units that they catch. AFAIK the reason why large areas of the eastern front were static was because the trucks were needed elsewhere as there were not enough available, which is not a real problem with the current logistic model for WitE. Though from what I have read on WitE2 on other posts that particular problem may be a non issue
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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/2/2016 9:18:41 PM   
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I agree Brian has a lost game and Sillyflower is administering the 'touché finale', but my question still stands... should the German commander commit a large number of AP's beginning in '42 to set up a extensive fortified zone network ??/ I haven't seen it. Also is the use of Static mode a thing of the past ??


not lost yet as the swine continues to cut me off.

All my manpower goes into front line troops every turn and I have no wish to weaken them by putting them into forts. Would have built forts to protect key rail lines from partisans, but that tactic no longer works since a recent patch.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/8/2016 9:42:33 AM   
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Another supply disaster down south




as Brian uses tank corps as suicide squads. Perhaps an unintended consequence of getting them back without any/minimal AP cost but can't blame him. Sadly 1 tank xxx routed away as soon as I tried to herd it, but the other will pay the ultimate price. FBDs repair the broken rail line.
As a result, no material progress towards Baku but another inf xx surrounded down there.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/8/2016 9:48:03 AM   
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Rostov




His massed tank lunge is now securely pocketed. Sadly, the herding process resulted in 1 tank xx routing out, but a rescuing tank x has joined the pocket. 4th Panzer Army troops start to make their presence felt as they have at last been allocated trains.Axis allies also reached the area in time to be put in the front line.

Rostov made as secure as I can, but I ran out of troops. I should be alright tho' unless Stalin gets lucky.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/8/2016 10:01:37 AM   
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Last, and least, the north




Just some tidying up, securing the river line and continuing to feed 4 PzA mobile units southwards. Made easier by the shortening of my lines up here during the recent offensive.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 4:26:25 PM   
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Before I go further, I must issue a public apology to Bozo, so I hope he's still reading this AAR

Earlier, I criticised his '42 Caucasus O vs Stef for an important omission. I had in mind his failure to bomb Baku's port to put the Bolsheviks out of supply. However, I now realise that Baku is a supply source, so doing that would have little effect, so I won't be doing it either....

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 4:27:18 PM   
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Time for some more stats




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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 4:28:01 PM   
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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 4:28:51 PM   
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Destroyed units




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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 4:29:39 PM   
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Resulting in the following OOB




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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 5:40:22 PM   
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quote:

Before I go further, I must issue a public apology to Bozo, so I hope he's still reading this AAR


I accept your apology. However, you are probably referring to Bobo not Bozo.

I also play a game against Stef but I doubt I will make it to Baku.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 9:03:03 PM   
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Another apology to Bobo...................

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/11/2016 9:15:07 PM   
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Yep I am reading it.
Apology accepted

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/13/2016 2:42:16 PM   
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Thoughts on T56

The lack of petrol down south is very annoying. Under the old rules, Brian's unit losses would be causing an existential problem for him, but we aren't and he's making the most of the freebie return rule by using weak tank xxx as suicide commandos. The reduction in ability to rail units is also a problem as it means that I don't have as many units to defend the rail lines as I need. Hopefully, I now have just enough.

I should add that I'm not complaining about the new rules - they are preventing a cakewalk which is good for the game.

@ Hitman - you will note that I'm disbanding unwanted forts rather than building more. I want those chaps in the front line.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/14/2016 2:27:42 PM   
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I understand that end-of-war German defensive line is not a concern, in your well-played game. Since you are precise in your thoughts (and comments) your need is not in soldiers (manpower - + 3.8 mill !!) but in more units.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/14/2016 2:38:44 PM   
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My reputation for precision is unsullied Dr T . I need more men in the units I have. The German active pool empties every turn and I have about 33K German arms points spare each turn. Average German combat unit TOE probably 85-90% - though that doesn't mean short by that many men for some reason. My inf xx that was surrounded for several turns near Rostov was said to be 50-60% TOE when relieved (I forgot the actual number) but had about 80% of its manpower.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/14/2016 5:41:32 PM   
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Brian has speeded up a bit in the last couple of turns, probably as he's doing fewer attacks, and I've just sent back T59 so here's 57 south picture






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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/14/2016 5:44:15 PM   
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Rostov closer up




The encircled tank blob near Donbass are eliminated by allied forces whilst German forces concentrate on the eastern flank where the Bolsheviks got a lucky breakthrough (see battle screen) and planted a tank xxx next to Rostov. One of the (dis)advantages of this not being a proper boardgame is that I could not kick the board over. No proper Englishman would kick his dog and wife-kicking is far too dangerous.

Newly arrived units from 4 Panzer army pushed it back and put an extremely strong ring around the stack. This cleared the rail line so the JU52s could fly and the rail-head could advance 4 more hexes



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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/14/2016 6:26:12 PM   
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Down in the Caucasus





An out of supply Russian inf div SW of Krasnodar surrendered rather than retreat and 18th Army pushed forwards towards Makhachkala.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/14/2016 6:31:29 PM   
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Succeeding where Pelton failed




The brave Finns storm over the Janis river in '42 whilst AGN finishes a bit of line straightening by ejecting 3 Russian inf xx from a rough hex..

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/14/2016 7:05:51 PM   
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Since my job prescribes remedies for complaints, more units versus mere soldiers would better ease your pain.

Silly, have you disbanded any HQ's (Luff) to help your replacement pool ??

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/15/2016 11:09:55 AM   
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Typical doctor . Prescribes a remedy but is unable to say how the patient can get it.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/15/2016 11:16:31 AM   
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Typical doctor

1 Does not examine the patient properly. I remember being told that doctors only have regard to about 10-20% of the evidence when making a diagnosis. If you look at screenshot of destroyed/disbanded units on this page, you will see I haven't disbanded any HQs. I always used to disband the RHQs on T1 but can't be done nowadays. I will, however, consider your helpful idea when I get the turn back.

2 After "diagnosing" the problem only offers an unobtainable remedy. I can't get more units..................

No surprise then that about 10 years ago only about 17% of medical practice was based on proper evidence per Cochrane studies, though I suppose/hope it may have gone up to 18% by now.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/15/2016 12:33:43 PM   
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Luckily you now have those RHG HQs doing really useful auto repair! :)

I never understood why people disbanded those in 1941. Gives you only about 1 turn worth of manpower, but in 1941 is when you need them for targeted auto repair. In my current game they auto repaired partisan attacks in 75% of times already during logistics phase and they also created some mini loops to render partisan attacks ineffectual most of the time. I think during late game, when you withdraw to a network already in place, is when they should be disbanded.

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/15/2016 12:43:31 PM   
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The extra '41 manpower was better (worth an extra division) as I've never found partisans to be useful/threatening unless they got a rare lucky strike.
They do disband now at some point late war which is why they can't be disbanded by the player

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RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G - 8/15/2016 2:33:04 PM   
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It's always good to regard and accept criticism of any type, founded or unfounded. But common sense always dictate.

85% of diagnosis are made by the history of a patients complaint and their past medical history. However too much info creates intellectual "noise" where it's hard to decide what's important or not.

Pediatric patients come for care with a single problem at least 80% of the time. Diagnoses are relatively easy and solutions quick to make. Cases that are more challenging require close follow-up. Most of these are illnesses that progress over time and quick diagnosis is impossible.

Specific diagnostic algorithms (as Cochrane studies artificially use) are are cumbersome and don't replace medical judgment or acumen.

My batting average is a little better than 17 or 18%.

NB Many patients ignore good advice or are noncompliant with treatment. I think you're guilty.


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