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Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 4:28:50 PM   
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Hello,

Does anyone have any reccomendations for the best WW1 PC Wargame?

Thanks.

Rob.
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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 4:37:24 PM   
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Loads of fun!
http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Guns_of_August

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 4:39:42 PM   
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Loads of even more fun!
http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:The_Great_War_in_Europe:_Deluxe_Edition

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 4:42:10 PM   
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The Spanish Civil War was also a very WWWI style war-
http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:The_Spanish_Civil_War_1936-1939

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 5:04:10 PM   
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Thanks. Although are these for more than one player, on the links they indicate 2+? I'm a lone gamer so was more looking for a game that will play against me with AI.

I'll take a look at these though, thanks.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 5:25:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: skybluerob

Thanks. Although are these for more than one player, on the links they indicate 2+? I'm a lone gamer so was more looking for a game that will play against me with AI.

I'll take a look at these though, thanks.



Matrix/Slitherine have a few WWI games.

I recall Frank Hunter did one a few years back, I think Guns of August was the name. And I think there is a Commander, the Great War is anohter.

Thanks
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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 5:45:13 PM   
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Rick beat me to it. Even though development of the this game Commander - The Great War has come to a halt, it's still a really decent game both in SP and MP, it excels in MP. The CTGW forums are just loaded with comments, both to help and otherwise.

Look here for CTGW: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=814

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 5:52:19 PM   
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Here's another game to seriously consider: http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=272&Itemid=450 with the Breakthrough expansion patch. Has a lot of scenarios and I'd say a bit more complicated than CTGW.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 7:08:15 PM   
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Thanks, both of these look good and what I'm looking for. Now to decide which one.....

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/3/2015 8:01:34 PM   
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I'll say one thing for SCWWI: Bill and Carter (dev's) are very helpful with helping a player figure the game mechanics out, whereas, the dev's for CTGW are OTL (out to lunch), however there are many in the CTGW community (including myself) who are more than willing to help you in any way they can.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/4/2015 3:10:59 AM   
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Honestly, IMO, there are none better than WW1 Centennial.

World War One – La Grande Guerre was released way too early with many bugs and a map that was oriented where up on the map was east and left on the map was north. People hated it.

WW1 Gold, which Matrix sold, fixed that with a proper aligned map and many bug fixes. The game was better but still buggy. Such a shame as it was a truly deep game modeled after the huge boardgame of the same name.

Then last year WW1 Centennial was released by a small developer with even more bug fixes and optimizations. From what I gather they were sued over the IP of the game and since then the company has been dissolved. It is however still available. The tutorials are horrid. the manual hodgepodged, the game super complex, but if you dont mind investing some effort, imo there is no other computer wargame that gathers the look and feel of WW1 like it.

There is a demo to an old buggy WW1 Gold out there just to see how it looks. Centennial is a much more polished product than the demo will show though.

Even with all of its warts and steep learning curve the game is still one of my favorite all time games.

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Might want to w\be cautious if you are running windows 10. Reinstalled WW1 Centennial last night on my new win 10 machine and the game was giving me problems. Need to investigate further. Also the fact that it wont be patched further may be a deterrent for you.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/6/2015 6:55:46 PM   
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Thanks for all your suggestions.

I still don't know which one, but I've narrowed it down to Commander: Great War, Strategic Commander or another one I found online called Squad Battles: WW1, which I have to say, looks right up my street. I couldn't get the World War Gold demo to run.

I'm not a very experienced wargamer, and the Strategic Commander demo is a bit daunting, it could do with a small tutorial to get you up and running. I think I might start with Squad Battles. Has anyone tried it?

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 10:16:12 AM   
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1. WW1 Gold\ Centennial Edition
2. Strategic Command The Great War
3. Squad Battles First World War
4. John Tillers France'14

Non Wargame but best WW1 games..

1.Wings Over Flanders Fields with Expansions
2. Verdun (Superb online shooter like a WW1 Red Orchestra).

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 11:56:56 AM   
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WW1 FPS/squadplay Verdun. Multiplayer only: available through Steam.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 2:38:02 PM   
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Can see that you are already committed to a game of choice. The WWI game list would not be complete with out "Guns of August" (released 2007): http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=104

Take note: KISSMEUFOOL's suggested game, I believe maybe a different GOA than the above sited game.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 2:44:39 PM   
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Almost forgot about Total War WW I mod, here's a YouTube video of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DShbDtdn-KU

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 3:13:09 PM   
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excellent game: Ageod's To End All Wars http://www.ageod.com/products/533/details/To.End.All.Wars

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 3:33:51 PM   
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excellent game: Ageod's To End All Wars http://www.ageod.com/products/533/details/To.End.All.Wars

Yes, bought that game months and months ago and still have not seriously played it yet. Good call!

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 4:30:36 PM   
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quote:

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excellent game: Ageod's To End All Wars http://www.ageod.com/products/533/details/To.End.All.Wars


I agree. I'm into a MP now and it's a very good game, quite challenging.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 9:46:26 PM   
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Quite a lot of choices, which is always a good thing. I decided to go with Squad Battles: WW1 as my first choice and am really enjoying it. I had a minor victory in the starter scenario, may have had a major one had two of my tanks not become immobilised (one I drove into gas, possibly a rookie mistake).

Overall though, seems like a good game, I'm certainly enjoying it. I'll probably get a grand strategy title in a few months' time once I've played more of this game, but thanks for all the suggestions. I can see me probably getting my feet wet with Commander: Great War, as it seems to be more user friendly for less experienced gamers. But I'll see nearer the time (I'd really like to get into Strategic Commander, but the isometric view puts me off a little, I prefer top down).

But thanks again for all the comments, very helpful.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 10:02:44 PM   
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If you get CTGW be sure to download the 1.64 patch asap, Hands down beats any other versions of the game..

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 10:39:17 PM   
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1. WW1 Gold\ Centennial Edition
2. Strategic Command The Great War
3. Squad Battles First World War
4. John Tillers France'14



I second this list.

I've tried virtually every WWI game out there, and I think WW1 Gold/Centennial stands head and shoulders above the rest. I find it to be a great combination of grand strategy and war game, where the warfare feels very "right" historically but you can still change history in a variety of plausible ways through diplomacy. (I prefer the Centennial version because it runs best for me.)

Strategic Command is sort of a more abstracted version of WWI G/C. It's fine as far as it goes, but I just think WW1 G/C offers more game play.

Squad Battles First World War and John Tillers France'14 are both good games but fall into the more traditional "death by counters and hexes" genre. I find them both a bit tedious at times.

I know others have suggested Ageod's TEAW, but I can't. It's high on my list of games that I really wanted to love but don't. It just doesn't feel like WW1 to me - battles are more blobs than fronts - and diplomacy is limited to nonexistent depending on which nation you play. I just don't think the Ageod engine works well in a more modern-era game, and I've also found the AI to be very weak. (I know others enjoy the game in MP, but I'm a SP guy myself.)

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/7/2015 11:02:55 PM   
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Queeg, Yes WW1 Gold is the only game out there that can actually do both movement and trench warfare during the game. All the other Grand Strat games fail on this point sadly.



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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/8/2015 3:55:25 PM   
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Thanks operating, although there seems to be a lot of praise for WW1 Gold.

Queeg, what are your thoughts on Commander - Great War. It's the only one you didn't mention?

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/8/2015 5:05:22 PM   
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You could take a few minutes and check out the WW I Gold forum. Often I look at the AARs to get an idea on how the game plays, if it's a video AAR all that much better. Did a quick look to see what the playing style of the game is, it's not a hex map based game, whereas CTGW is, it depends on your preference.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/8/2015 6:58:43 PM   
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Yes, there's lots more videos of Commander than the other games and it looks like I might enjoy that game. After I'm finished playing Squad Battles, I think I'm tempted to go for Commander as my next game.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/9/2015 2:37:49 AM   
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Queeg, what are your thoughts on Commander - Great War. It's the only one you didn't mention?


To me, Commander feels too much like a modified version of the Commander WWII game (or even the Commander Napoleon game) - it's a game system adapted to WWI rather than a WWI game. It just feels too generic for my tastes.

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RE: Best WW1 Wargame - 10/9/2015 8:03:01 AM   
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skybluerob, if you want a pretty authentic WW1 Grand Strat game it has to be WW1 Gold. As mentioned above WW1 needs a game that's been designed solely for that War. That's why WW1 Gold does it better than Commander, Ageods other WW1 game and Strategic Command..because all those games use an engine that was designed for another War.

To get the most out of SB join the Blitz forum and go check the SB forum..always people willing to have a game..plus great bunch of lads. SB comes alive PBEM.

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