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Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 8:39:42 AM   
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Do you guys look out for certain pilots in the game ? I mean not special persona but some ordinary guy that just enters the game at some point.

I am now following 5 guys, one a FP pilot , a F guy, one in the army force F squadron and 2 bomber guys in the Army.

For 6 months they seem to be doing ok gaining experience. Bomber guys from army are now in Fiji flying ASW missions and occasionally bombing Nihue.

FP pilot is still training in the home islands. 2 F guys are in Perth and Broome respectively.

I sort of watch over them but assign their squadrons without bias.

Do you think they know they are living in the 'matrix' ?

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 10:58:56 AM   
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I always look out for Saburo Sakai. Alas, he didn't last long in my game. MIA

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 11:21:24 AM   
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I always structure things in my game to give Pappy Boyington the best opportunity to become my top ace.

He is the highest skilled pilot in the American inventory at game start so if you get him into combat he usually has no problem leading the pack.

However, in some games where he lagged behind other AVG pilots I have been known to transfer his top competitors to Tracom while leaving him in place in combat to run up his score.

I have also been known to quit and restart a game if he gets killed.

If you are not aware many pilots are names of people who never flew in WWII.

There are actually quite a few "Grigsby's" and quite a few others with the names of Matrix staffers.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 11:50:29 AM   
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I do this with submarine COs. But they're all famous.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 12:08:07 PM   
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I do this with submarine COs. But they're all famous.

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Every time I start up a new campaign game in Silent Hunters: Wolves of Pacific my chosen commanders name is Richard O'Kane.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 1:17:42 PM   
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I do this with submarine COs. But they're all famous.

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Every time I start up a new campaign game in Silent Hunters: Wolves of Pacific my chosen commanders name is Richard O'Kane.


I'm more a Mush fan. But then I AM a Wahoo . . .

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 1:30:38 PM   
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I looked for my father, but it would appear that he didn't make the game, but did make the campaign!

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 2:27:47 PM   
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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 3:24:10 PM   
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In my two campaigns to date. Boyington has died almost immediately. He racked up five kills in his second mission and was then shot down and killed in the current game. Bong has also died very quickly in both games. Did a massive P38 sweep with three squadrons in 2/42 and shot down 30 tojos for the loss of one plane. Guess who was piloting it. Watched my top ace get to 24 kills last game and promoted to brigadier general. All in P40s. As soon as he got a thunderbolt, he died. Life is not fair.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 4:29:22 PM   
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Boyington had not been successful at all, only 1 kill so far... in 103 missions
not impressed

Something is certainly wrong when your best pilots are Chinese



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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 4:30:21 PM   
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In my two campaigns to date. Boyington has died almost immediately. He racked up five kills in his second mission and was then shot down and killed in the current game. Bong has also died very quickly in both games. Did a massive P38 sweep with three squadrons in 2/42 and shot down 30 tojos for the loss of one plane. Guess who was piloting it. Watched my top ace get to 24 kills last game and promoted to brigadier general. All in P40s. As soon as he got a thunderbolt, he died. Life is not fair.


I've had Pappy get injured twice. At one point he was my top killer, and may still be, but his XP plummeted 10 points from the latest injury. His Air skill is still nice, but I want to say his XP was in the upper-60s only... Bong usually does well also.

I'm trying to get Butch O'Hare up to 99 Exp. He's my top Navy ace at the moment. If he can get 5-6 more kills he might just make it there... there will be no flying at night for him in my games.

I pay attention to the early war USN VF commanders because they're the best options to lead their groups, and with their good skills I leave them in combat... I think most are still with me at this point.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 4:38:50 PM   
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Boygton had not been successful at all, only 1 kill so far... in 103 missions
not impressed

Something is certainly wrong when your best pilots are Chinese




Did you do anything to enable him?

Did you prioritize his squadron as the first to upgrade to a P40E or did you leave him in n H83?

Did you put the AVG in Rangoon where they can get non-stop action shooting down Betties, Sallies and their Oscar and Zero escorts trying to sink the massive supply convoys coming in?

Did you prioritize his squadron of P40Es as the first to Upgrade to P38Es?

Did you set his P38 squadron to the task of Sweeping Bangkok from Rangoon so he can continue getting action?

I have to admit that although he has been my leading ace in most of my games, my current game of Focus Pacific has so much more Allied air power in so many more locations that the French and British pilots flying out of Kwangchowan are my leaders.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 4:53:05 PM   
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I don't remember what happened during his Chinese career.. I think I moved him to the PI early on.

What I certainly remember is that he was one of the "hand picked" pilots to man the 1st P-38 squadron.. His unit then went to India and has been very successful in terrorizing Oscar pilots.. not so much against Tojos, but that is a different story.
The best US squadron by far and the 2nd best Allied in terms of kills. I would say it is probably the best overall as its victims were mostly fighters defeated in sweeps

31 kills... only 2 air-to-air losses... 1 WIA/ 1 MIA



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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 5:30:50 PM   
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I always structure things in my game to give Pappy Boyington the best opportunity to become my top ace.

He is the highest skilled pilot in the American inventory at game start so if you get him into combat he usually has no problem leading the pack.

However, in some games where he lagged behind other AVG pilots I have been known to transfer his top competitors to Tracom while leaving him in place in combat to run up his score.

I have also been known to quit and restart a game if he gets killed.

If you are not aware many pilots are names of people who never flew in WWII.

There are actually quite a few "Grigsby's" and quite a few others with the names of Matrix staffers.


Is there a Kilroy? Oh, wrong theatre.

I pay no attention to their names, just how fast they train and group them accordingly. I barely pay any attention to the commanders, you know like Halsey or Nagumo or that other guy. You know, the one who is cheaper and better than Nagumo, what's his name? Wasn't he in that wrestling match with so-and-so over whether to strike PH with four carriers or six?

I pay attention to Yamashiro. That's the guy who took Singapore, isn't it? You know, the Manstein of the East? Both lower class and mostly ignored. Oops, Yamashita.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/3/2015 5:38:21 PM   
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In my two campaigns to date. Boyington has died almost immediately. He racked up five kills in his second mission and was then shot down and killed in the current game. Bong has also died very quickly in both games. Did a massive P38 sweep with three squadrons in 2/42 and shot down 30 tojos for the loss of one plane. Guess who was piloting it. Watched my top ace get to 24 kills last game and promoted to brigadier general. All in P40s. As soon as he got a thunderbolt, he died. Life is not fair.


You mean 2/43 don't you?

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 6:16:37 PM   
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Gene Roddenberry is the one i watch for.


there's a g. roddenberry in this game ?

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 6:20:10 PM   
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I always remove the golden highlighted guys immediately to the training command. I dont know if it will help me later in the game but that's an idea. Better than letting them to goto waste in the initial struggle.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 6:40:12 PM   
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There are actually quite a few "Grigsby's" and quite a few others with the names of Matrix staffers.


Webber and Schwanebeck comes too mind. But I found also 2 or 3 more which names were familiar but I dont know from where

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 6:47:43 PM   
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I pay no attention to their names, just how fast they train and group them accordingly. I barely pay any attention to the commanders, you know like Halsey or Nagumo or that other guy. You know, the one who is cheaper and better than Nagumo, what's his name? Wasn't he in that wrestling match with so-and-so over whether to strike PH with four carriers or six?

I pay attention to Yamashiro. That's the guy who took Singapore, isn't it? You know, the Manstein of the East? Both lower class and mostly ignored. Oops, Yamashita.



Dito. I payed attention to a decree when playing Allies, but the Japanese names I can not remember anyway. And I am too only know the "famous" guys anyway. This would be different in a European theatre game probably. Yes, Yamashita and Homma are the 2 army names but for navy or air....mh. I read some battle histories and there some other guys turned up which were good. But I forgot their names already... Also we Japan players need to be content with a guy who is quite overrated.... guess whom ? Is he even in the game - never checked

For eg. war in russia, I found most commanders were ok rated. If Rommel would have been there, he would have a high tactical + inspiration, but low logistic and strategic. The latter is probably unfair as anyone was hampered by the highest command anyway. The Allied commanders had it better in this regard.


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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 7:03:35 PM   
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BTW: Already checked this list out from the Clausewitz site ? Best top 100 commanders of the 20th century:

http://www.vonclausewitzwit.com/

Well not many Japanese, but the one overrated quite high.. several guys from the games TOO are in the list even at NO 1

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 7:07:45 PM   
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I always remove the golden highlighted guys immediately to the training command. I dont know if it will help me later in the game but that's an idea. Better than letting them to goto waste in the initial struggle.


Different opinions, but I would never do it, at least as Allies.. I simply don't think I need to accelerate pilot training.. pools are high for the key playing nations and losses never too high.

I keep high experienced pilots in good squadrons, under good leaders, flying the best available planes. These are the guys that will be scoring in the times of material inferiority. If they die, someone else will keep fighting, new aces will appear






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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 7:12:59 PM   
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I always remove the golden highlighted guys immediately to the training command. I dont know if it will help me later in the game but that's an idea. Better than letting them to goto waste in the initial struggle.



I used to do this, but in recent games have simply ignored TRACOM. Frankly, I don't notice any difference with inbound pilots with TRACOM empty.

Yes, you will lose some good pilots; however, I have several squadrons full of aces by the end of '42 by not rotating anyone out of their unit.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 7:21:05 PM   
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As soon as he got a thunderbolt, he died. Life is not fair.


Not fair but realistic. Many pilots had trouble transitioning from types they flew a long time....heard of Rudel ? He flew Stuka until wars end - even when it was obsolete in 43...

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/4/2015 7:36:13 PM   
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As soon as he got a thunderbolt, he died. Life is not fair.


Not fair but realistic. Many pilots had trouble transitioning from types they flew a long time....heard of Rudel ? He flew Stuka until wars end - even when it was obsolete in 43...


Yea but he made it less so by strapping 37mm guns under the wings and transforming it into a tank buster.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/5/2015 9:37:42 PM   
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There are some historical pilots, especially the leaders that if you looked them up you'd find have notable histories.

I always wanted to add in a host of actual pilots. In terms of the Admiral's Edition changes from Stock WitP it went out the door as outside the scope because we had other things we wanted to make sure got it, and we knew they could be added into the game as a mod in the editor.

I fell in love with WitP actually BEFORE it came out as I played Uncommon Valor and came across a pilot named Roger Mehle in VF-6 embarked on Enterprise. Roger MEhle at that time was still alive and was a sometimes member of my church. I met him when I was in college, well before my Navy career and subsequent obsession with WitP and AE.

Maybe I need to call up Tim Tom and actually do this. It would be so cool.

Other Notable pilots that would be fun to see...

Charles Lindbergh
Richard Bong
Killer McCambell
Tom Blackburn
Ira Kepford
Minoru Genda
Naoshi Kanno

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/5/2015 9:55:24 PM   
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Bong is in there:


From my one PBEM game (a taunt):
TENNANT CREEK, Australia - LT Richard "Dick" Bong of the 49th Fighter Group/9th Fighter Squadron, the "Flying Knights" was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters) after downing his 20th enemy aircraft, a Ki-21 "Sally" medium bomber. He is America's leading war ace in the Pacific.

Richard Bong is an athletic and hard-working boy from northern Wisconsin who dreamed of flying from the first time a plane buzzed low over his family farm. When war broke out, he left behind a life of sports, deer hunting, and farm chores to fly the new P-38 Lightning for the Army Air Force.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/5/2015 10:44:39 PM   
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Actually I meant looking for any "digital" pilot and not necessarily the namesake of an real life ace.

Fighter pilot from IJA is resting in Burma, while IJN fighter is aboard Shoho preparing to sortie against Illustrious.

FP and the bomber guys are training nicely and leading a nice boring life.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/6/2015 2:06:59 AM   
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There are a few naval aviators I recognize as well. One of those "dogfight" history channel shows had some I never heard of, they are in the game.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 9/6/2015 5:02:23 AM   
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I like hamburgers.

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RE: Maybe OT : Looking for specific pilots... - 10/6/2015 7:24:21 PM   
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Isn't it possible through the Editor to change/add pilot names to the database?

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