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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 1:33:58 PM   
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Did both scenario's get updated in the 1.102 patch? Noticed a Japanese unit starts in George Town (allied controlled) in the Non-Active Soviet Scenario but, not in the Active Soviet scenario.

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In the current update, Georgetown is clear of Japanese troops. Just checked....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 5:41:09 PM   
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I did a clean install but, I'm seeing some very strange stuff playing allies random Japanese units appearing at allied bases at locations at each start or after a turn or two,.
The french CV's Joffre, Painleve with no aircraft or air capacity?

I wonder if Extremely Variable Reinforcements 60 days is causing some of the weirdness I'm seeing?

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 7:09:36 PM   
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I can now confirm the Extremely Variable Reinforcements 60 days - causes issues, Japanese units appearing at allied controlled bases.

Ran the following test 5 times for each scenario

Test:Scenario 71 and/or 72
Set: Extremely Variable Reinforcements 60 days

Start game: Head to Head Scenario 71 & 72

Look at map locations Rabaul, Tarawa, George town


Issue: Japanese units arriving at allied controlled base at start of game!!

4010 Rabaul Eng Bn has a delay of 411215 and has Rabaul at the arrival location shows up at game start.
4012 Tarawa Eng Bn same thing at Tarawa
4020 Malaya Eng Bn sam thing George Town

There maybe others the 60 days is variable.

Fix
Units (land,Sea,Air) should not have enemy bases as their arrival location for the first 61 days of the war! After that units should default to home base in the location is enemy controlled.


Verified with the editor

French Carriers have no air capacity or aircraft
10810 Joffre
10811 Painleve








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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 7:32:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pad152

I can now confirm the Extremely Variable Reinforcements 60 days - causes issues, Japanese units appearing at allied controlled bases.

Ran the following test 5 times for each scenario

Test:Scenario 71 and/or 72
Set: Extremely Variable Reinforcements 60 days

Start game: Head to Head Scenario 71 & 72

Look at map locations Rabaul, Tarawa, George town


Issue: Japanese units arriving at allied controlled base at start of game!!

4010 Rabaul Eng Bn has a delay of 411215 and has Rabaul at the arrival location shows up at game start.
4012 Tarawa Eng Bn same thing at Tarawa
4020 Malaya Eng Bn sam thing George Town

There maybe others the 60 days is variable.

Fix
Units (land,Sea,Air) should not have enemy bases as their arrival location for the first 61 days of the war! After that units should default to home base in the location is enemy controlled.


Verified with the editor

French Carriers have no air capacity or aircraft
10810 Joffre
10811 Painleve










To start, the french CV's and 2 BB's at Tahiti have to go to a shipyard of the right size to have construction completed. The story is those 4 ships moved to Tahiti after the fall of France, uncompleted. The CV's air units will arrive at Tahiti later on. Same for the BB's patrol groups. Although the patrol group will show up on the BB's.

As far as the variable settings go, I have been testing with the 15 day setting and it works great. The 60 day may be a bug. The reason I say that is normally if a base is in enemy hands the unit should delay (see opps report) and possible show up at national base. The dutch are a good example. If you withdraw a dutch air unit, That unit will show up at Aden after the normal base is determined to be unavailable, or the dutch surrender. You may want to post in the tech forum for michaelm to look at. Include a save game and a screen shot if you can. He will have to DL Focus Pacific to test....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 8:38:13 PM   
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My game is in July '42 and has been running from start with 60 day variability on reinforcements.
Have seen no problems due to it, but have been playing Allied side.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 9:23:05 PM   
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My game is in July '42 and has been running from start with 60 day variability on reinforcements.
Have seen no problems due to it, but have been playing Allied side.


The test I did, it happened on the first turn 2 out of 5 time with one scenario and 3 times out of 5 on the other, it's random because of the +/- 60 days. Maybe if it doesn't happen with the first couple of days it's fine?



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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 9:38:07 PM   
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To start, the french CV's and 2 BB's at Tahiti have to go to a shipyard of the right size to have construction completed. The story is those 4 ships moved to Tahiti after the fall of France, uncompleted. The CV's air units will arrive at Tahiti later on. Same for the BB's patrol groups. Although the patrol group will show up on the BB's.

As far as the variable settings go, I have been testing with the 15 day setting and it works great. The 60 day may be a bug. The reason I say that is normally if a base is in enemy hands the unit should delay (see opps report) and possible show up at national base. The dutch are a good example. If you withdraw a dutch air unit, That unit will show up at Aden after the normal base is determined to be unavailable, or the dutch surrender. You may want to post in the tech forum for michaelm to look at. Include a save game and a screen shot if you can. He will have to DL Focus Pacific to test....GP


Variable Reinforcements:
- Units are placed on the map day one, there are no checks for (enemy controlled hexes), games been that way from day one!

French Carriers:
- Sorry, never played the game in story mode before!

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/8/2016 10:05:07 PM   
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There should be checks for enemy occupation. It's one of the game functions. I have seen many LCU delay because of enemy base occupation....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/11/2016 2:08:45 PM   
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Para, AV Chandeleur ID 4264, Class 2613, Arrives with air units for its conversion. Problem is that when it arrives on june 15th 1942 it's to late to convert the ship to a CVE. I didn't check to see if there are any others. The only thing I can think of is change the class for the later models to Tangier II and set the conversion to sometime after 9/1942....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/11/2016 2:39:31 PM   
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Don't the two French AVs have to wait until 3/43 for the conversion to CVE?

I know the one that starts at Kwangchowan does. Haven't looked closely at the other, but have it stationed at Noumea and will check it tonight.

I've been playing the Soviets Active version from initial beta release.

BTW, those air units aren't for the conversion, but for operating from the AV.

I've had both AVs flying both CAP and Naval attack missions for some time now.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/11/2016 9:51:39 PM   
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Is anyone playing this as a PBEM? And if so, how is it going.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/11/2016 10:57:28 PM   
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Don't the two French AVs have to wait until 3/43 for the conversion to CVE?

I know the one that starts at Kwangchowan does. Haven't looked closely at the other, but have it stationed at Noumea and will check it tonight.

I've been playing the Soviets Active version from initial beta release.

BTW, those air units aren't for the conversion, but for operating from the AV.

I've had both AVs flying both CAP and Naval attack missions for some time now.


Actually they are. The Tangier class AV converts to a CVE and appears with the aircraft it will use after conversion. There are a couple of ships that do this....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/11/2016 11:00:22 PM   
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Is anyone playing this as a PBEM? And if so, how is it going.


I have played a couple test PBEM's. Now waiting for the last update to start one. Just need a JFB....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 12:20:17 AM   
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Is anyone playing this as a PBEM? And if so, how is it going.


I have two current PBEMs going as the allies. One is in September of 42, and the other in late January of 42.

In both, I'm getting trounced pretty badly by the Japanese player, but overall they have been a lot of fun.

If you want my opponent's view of the battle so far for the one in 1/42, he has an AAR which can be found here.



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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 10:09:42 AM   
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I would like to begin a PBEM, anyone interested?

Thanks.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 11:49:32 AM   
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Don't the two French AVs have to wait until 3/43 for the conversion to CVE?

I know the one that starts at Kwangchowan does. Haven't looked closely at the other, but have it stationed at Noumea and will check it tonight.

I've been playing the Soviets Active version from initial beta release.

BTW, those air units aren't for the conversion, but for operating from the AV.

I've had both AVs flying both CAP and Naval attack missions for some time now.


Actually they are. The Tangier class AV converts to a CVE and appears with the aircraft it will use after conversion. There are a couple of ships that do this....GP



OK, but those same squadrons are operating form the ships while it is in AV form. You don't have to wait for the ship to convert to CVE before being able to use the planes.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 2:15:16 PM   
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Didn't know that. But I have found that the AV's drop their aircraft after 1 turn in port.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 2:17:05 PM   
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I would like to begin a PBEM, anyone interested?

Thanks.


When the last update is available, I'm game. Do you play the Japanese side?....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 2:37:37 PM   
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Ufff... I never have played as japanese... Is a problem if I pick allied side?

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 2:43:10 PM   
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Didn't know that. But I have found that the AV's drop their aircraft after 1 turn in port.



Been keeping mine in TFs in the port hex with the planes aboard (these AVs have an aircraft capacity) and the planes have been flying.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/12/2016 5:53:14 PM   
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Is anyone playing this as a PBEM? And if so, how is it going.


I have played a couple test PBEM's. Now waiting for the last update to start one. Just need a JFB....GP


I would be interested, but my experience is with the Allies. So if you are wiling to put up
with a bumbling Japanese player, I am interested depending on settings and house rules.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/13/2016 12:49:37 AM   
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That's not a problem for me. If we need to back up or restart, I can do that to. PM or email me and we can discuss HR and settings....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/16/2016 3:35:47 AM   
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I'd like to give this another go as an AFB, but can only do about 3-4 turns a week. In theory Lowpe and I will do another PBEM, but I know he's knee deep in PBEMs at the moment.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/17/2016 9:17:58 AM   
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Been playing as Allied for 1 month. Had too many assets so make a "ultra sir-robin" just to avoid Japan collapsed. At 28th January Japan is gassed. Zero replacements of almost every airplane, and lot of losses (airplanes and ships ) just to mantain the same timetable of RL.

Japan should be empowered even more, at least the first 6 months, to get an interesting game.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/17/2016 9:25:54 AM   
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Been playing as Allied for 1 month. Had too many assets so make a "ultra sir-robin" just to avoid Japan collapsed. At 28th January Japan is gassed. Zero replacements of almost every airplane, and lot of losses (airplanes and ships ) just to mantain the same timetable of RL.

Japan should be empowered even more, at least the first 6 months, to get an interesting game.


The problem with making Japan even more powerful is that a human Japanese player can use those additional assets to absolutely run roughshod over a PBEM opponent.

Are you playing on Very Hard difficulty?

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/17/2016 9:35:55 AM   
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Just on Hard. I guess should change to VH, or take the japanese mantle.

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/20/2016 1:30:26 PM   
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Para, The Vindictive CVL upgrade puts all of the 4IN/45's AAA on the right side. Need to set one bank on the left side. Also, there is no rear facing AAA. Cpt Deverell has a twin with the same name. NZ naval officer.

How long for the final form?

Let me know if you need anything....GP



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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/20/2016 6:00:33 PM   
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Thanks for the new feedback. I have a lot of work to do correcting some legacy issues from Ironman that just came to my attention this week in the way of Japanese divisions that were added in the Ironman scenario arriving significantly understrength, as well as some massaging of Japanese aircraft upgrades, and some allied plane art issues (which are always ridiculously vexing for me to sort out).

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/23/2016 3:54:31 PM   
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Thanks for the new feedback. I have a lot of work to do correcting some legacy issues from Ironman that just came to my attention this week in the way of Japanese divisions that were added in the Ironman scenario arriving significantly understrength, as well as some massaging of Japanese aircraft upgrades, and some allied plane art issues (which are always ridiculously vexing for me to sort out).


Plus all the C##P I have found.. I'll tell you, If you want to break the AI, you can. In my current test I did on purpose. End result;

July 1942, I still have the DEI's, I have sunk 5 CV's, 6 CVL's and 6 CVE's of the imperial navy, I have lost one French CV, China is preparing a counter attack in the Changsha area, and I am resupplying Cebu, which is still holding.

So, unless you give-in in the first 6 months, Play as PBEM....GP

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RE: Focus Pacific Beta - 2/24/2016 1:57:54 AM   
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I did a no-Sov AI vs AI run and as of mid-43 Singapore is still Allied, most of the DEI is Allied (barring Menado and a few bases in that area; interestingly a few Java bases have the Union Jack symbol, implying a counterattack). IJ has Luzon, but the rest of the PI is Allied. Clearly this scenario isn't meant to be played vs. the AI.

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