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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/25/2017 6:57:09 AM   
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Its Elmer, not Elmo.

Using Formation Cooperation features will have some effect on influencing Air Units to support specific formations. Assigning specific hexes for Interdiction would be a nice feature. At this point I think we can assume that no more features will be added to IV, so suggest that you save up your new wishes for V

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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/25/2017 12:17:53 PM   
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At this point I think we can assume that no more features will be added to IV, so suggest that you save up your new wishes for V


Whoa there, Steve. I certainly expect IV to get some further mods. How many I can't guess, but every new release should expect a significant period of support and such - just like III got.

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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/25/2017 6:16:47 PM   
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Alright then, more new features, excellent !

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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/25/2017 9:16:33 PM   
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Great! Could we plan chain of command, dynamic formation changes and OOB tree representation in a TOAW IV update?
Please, I am too old now to wait for TOAW V........

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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/26/2017 2:30:36 AM   
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Did the OOB screen get any improvement?

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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/26/2017 2:56:03 AM   
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Did the OOB screen get any improvement?


Did you see post #5 in the "Editor?" thread?

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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/26/2017 3:50:50 AM   
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Did the OOB screen get any improvement?


Did you see post #5 in the "Editor?" thread?



So this is how it looks in the editor, the in game oob screen is pretty much the same? I see that there's a new "unit info" row, are there any new buttons in the bottom, or the ability to sort units clicking at the top of the rows? (guess not).
Oh, and there is a scroll bar now.


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RE: TOAW IV features - 4/26/2017 8:42:37 PM   
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When I speak about "OOB tree representation", I am looking for something like this:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3896981

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RE: TOAW IV features - 5/3/2017 4:03:19 AM   
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Just thought that would be nice that if the "unit report" panel could be set to always be open, so in that way as you select one unit after another the info is there at first glance. What do you think?

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RE: TOAW IV features - 5/21/2017 1:02:31 PM   
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I did see from the posted pics that opponent's unit strengths won't be known (presumably before contact), but it appears that unit sizes may be seen. But more generally, how will that work?

I assume that you will start to get information based on units within a certain range, but I am curious, for example, if different armies have different intelligence gathering capabilities. I would also be interested in whether intelligence can be wrong. Limited/poor intelligence was a defining feature of many armies, so it could add another layer of realism to the game.

"What do you mean that battalion is actually a brigade...?" has a nice feel to it. What can I say, I am a masochist?

I am sorry if I missed a post explaining this.

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RE: TOAW IV features - 5/21/2017 2:23:02 PM   
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I did see from the posted pics that opponent's unit strengths won't be known (presumably before contact), but it appears that unit sizes may be seen. But more generally, how will that work?

I assume that you will start to get information based on units within a certain range, but I am curious, for example, if different armies have different intelligence gathering capabilities. I would also be interested in whether intelligence can be wrong. Limited/poor intelligence was a defining feature of many armies, so it could add another layer of realism to the game.

"What do you mean that battalion is actually a brigade...?" has a nice feel to it. What can I say, I am a masochist?

I am sorry if I missed a post explaining this.


Intel is the same as under TOAW III (except for Naval Spotting). Enemy-owned hexes are either Spotted, Observed, or Unknown. If Spotted you know everything. If Observed, you know a few things, if Unknown, you know nothing - not even that there is anything in the hex.

Which case applies to each hex is determined via a random application of the friendly Theater Recon value (terrain and weather affect its application). This can be augmented by adjacent friendly units' recon values. In modern scenarios, recon helicopters may add to that (maybe Electronic Warfare, too - I'm not sure). Finally, there's Naval Spotting - more on that later.

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RE: TOAW IV features - 6/10/2017 8:39:31 PM   
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As I've posted in the TOAW 3 forum;

Sdkfz 251 has an maximum speed of 52 km/h on road but it's 21 km/h off-road. On open terrain its speed may be more than 21 km/h but most likely it'll still be less than 52 km/h. So I think it should cost more than 1 MP for moving through clear hexes. Most photos of German armoured columns from WW2 shows the vehicles moving through roads even there is clear terrain around them. The same MP for road/clear terrain doesn't stress the importance of roads.

I think this should be modeled in the new TOAW like 0.5 MP for moving through improved roads.

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RE: TOAW IV features - 6/11/2017 4:50:01 PM   
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What I would wish to ask...Did you do any works on changing of units parameters? Well, when I bought this game a few years ago, I started with playing the tutorial scenario, that one about the korean war. First thing I was embarassed that I won on the korean side, and I won americans and south koreans before the chinese forces went into combat, the UN forces were smashed out...And the second thing in spite of it, an effectivenes of mig 15 was nominal, it was a common situation when I got report "you lost 4 mig 15 and the enemy two corsairs, absolutely unlikely, especially in light of the fact that both side had revealed the information about lost and damaged planes so we now know what had happend in almost every days of the war. (Yes I know that actually the red info is only about USSR fighter regiments, but the NK aviation was trifling, and chinese were brought into the battle a bit past my victory.)
So I dont mean to offend anyone, but I began to have some doubts about the realism and didnt play it anymore...

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RE: TOAW IV features - 11/18/2017 6:41:34 AM   
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Thanks it's useful for me.

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RE: TOAW IV features - 11/18/2017 8:05:38 AM   
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quote:

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What I would wish to ask...Did you do any works on changing of units parameters? Well, when I bought this game a few years ago, I started with playing the tutorial scenario, that one about the korean war. First thing I was embarassed that I won on the korean side, and I won americans and south koreans before the chinese forces went into combat, the UN forces were smashed out...And the second thing in spite of it, an effectivenes of mig 15 was nominal, it was a common situation when I got report "you lost 4 mig 15 and the enemy two corsairs, absolutely unlikely, especially in light of the fact that both side had revealed the information about lost and damaged planes so we now know what had happend in almost every days of the war. (Yes I know that actually the red info is only about USSR fighter regiments, but the NK aviation was trifling, and chinese were brought into the battle a bit past my victory.)
So I dont mean to offend anyone, but I began to have some doubts about the realism and didnt play it anymore...

Talking about losses and adjusting things for older scenarios; it's worth to adjust the AD and MRPB as well. As guide line, here's an old TOAW III thread.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3045873

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RE: TOAW IV features - 11/18/2017 10:27:21 AM   
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...And wouldn't it be useful if we command "combat support" to then click the HQ of a friendly formation and Elmo interpret this as concentrate on this formations' battles? And if we command "interdiction" and then click a hex for Elmo to interpret as "search starting with this hex and whack any enemy unit we find"?....





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RE: TOAW IV features - 11/22/2017 3:32:57 PM   
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As the list in the first post is very useful and as many seem to ask what changes went into TOAWIV I would liek to know if it is up to date or if features are missing.

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RE: TOAW IV features - 11/22/2017 6:06:50 PM   
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There will be optional combat graphics to show participating units and their equipment as they are employed.


The above was dropped.

There were several features added beyond the list, including:

1. In-Game Equipment Editor.

2. Expansion of turn intervals and hex scales.

3. New Mud and Snow Rules.

4. The Jump Map.

< Message edited by Curtis Lemay -- 11/23/2017 2:37:47 PM >


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