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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/29/2015 4:56:26 PM   
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Actually, the victory conditions of Germany and the Soviet Union in most every case should prevent an alliance from happening. It´s because people don´t care about the victory conditions they seem to end up in the state of a German/Soviet alliance.

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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/29/2015 5:40:03 PM   
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Just supposing that the Soviet Union attacks Japan with the intention of stopping Japan from becoming to powerful, and posing a threat in the East.

But the USA for reasons of their own join Japan in a war against the Soviet Union and China.

How is it then not in the Soviets interest to a have alliance with Germany, knowing that a two front war with the USA Japan and possibly the UK a ally of the USA plus Germany and Italy. Would be catastrophic for the Soviet Union.

Germany in this instance have not subdued the French and British to a level where they could undertake a Eastern Front against the Soviets, so it works out well for both the Germans and Soviets.

Victory conditions could come into play later as we have many years of potential war to unfold.

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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/29/2015 5:59:22 PM   
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True.

In the long run an alliance between the soviets and the germans should be an impossibility.

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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/29/2015 7:18:47 PM   
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It remains a possibility for as long as the conditions that brought the alliance in to being remain in place. And to be honest having trusted the Axis as the Soviets, and found that they have acted honorably, on a purely human level it is then difficult to stab them in the back, though I dare say to achieve victory a Hitler or a Stalin could certainly have overcome any qualms they had, I am just not sure if I could that's just human nature, or my personal nature. Also it would mean that I would also be acting in the interest of USA and the UK, the USA having only recently been involved in war against the Soviet Union, they will definitely will be on the Soviets not to be trusted list.

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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/29/2015 9:54:32 PM   
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Remind us how you allowed China to win?

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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/29/2015 10:02:33 PM   
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LOL The Soviets are aware of the Chinese victory conditions, the Soviets are sitting on the cities that China needs for victory, the Soviets have told China that at some later stage once their military have recovered they are welcome to try and take those cities but they will have to go through the Red Army first.

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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/29/2015 10:10:49 PM   
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This discussion went from "in theory" to "in practice"... very fast!

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RE: GD1938 Game 22 (Experimental One) - 6/30/2015 2:20:05 PM   
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Ok, guys,

We seem to be only 4 people interested in restarting.

RufusTFirefly
LJBurstyn
Bombur
Ernieschwitz


Are there any more interested?

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