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OT what's this? - 5/1/2015 6:49:22 PM   
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This is a picture of Gurkhas supposedly in the Indian Army. I know the British Brigade uses L85 Enfield auto assault rifles, is that what these guys have? What's the boxlike thing hanging from the barrel? The caption said the pic was taken during a training exercise.




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RE: OT what's this? - 5/1/2015 6:57:01 PM   
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Looks like sort of laser to score 'hits' in training?

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/1/2015 7:10:10 PM   
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Could be I guess. Perhaps that sashlike thingy wrapped around their helmets is also some kind of training device, cameras maybe?

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/1/2015 7:10:45 PM   
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It is exactly that (laser training device). And those things on helmets are sensors registering the laser hits. Also in vests.

Many countries uses that sort of systems, more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Integrated_Laser_Engagement_System

Rifles are Indian INSAS assault rifles.

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/1/2015 7:21:04 PM   
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Thanks, Sardaukar

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/1/2015 9:19:05 PM   
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Finally a "what is this" that I can answer. I agree with you guys regarding the laser. The rifle they're carrying is the INSAS, which is the service rifle of the Indian army. The L85 is a bullpup configured rifle so it looks very different from this rifle. The look of the L85 is similar to that of the Israeli Tavor if you're more familiar with that rifle. They are both on my wish list of rifles to shoot. ;)

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/1/2015 10:33:54 PM   
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Thanks robinsa. Please make sure not to use any targets that have a gorn on them. I'm pretty sensitive that way.

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/2/2015 12:12:17 AM   
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The INSAS is not very popular amongst the rank and file Indian Army.

Plastic magazine prone to crack in cold weather...perhaps fixed by now.

Unreliable modes of operation, burst to full auto, etc.

Prone to overheat and fail in sustained firefights.

The rank and file liked 30 calibers they had previously.

Oh well, to complain is a way of life in the Army.

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/2/2015 12:52:10 AM   
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Not to mention that it looks like a rifle that would have been fielded in the 60's or 70's. Def not one that was fielded in the late 90s!

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/2/2015 9:26:22 AM   
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I remember seeing the MILES on Defense Fairs in the late eighties.

Fred

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Integrated_Laser_Engagement_System

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RE: OT what's this? - 5/2/2015 11:18:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

The rank and file liked 30 calibers they had previously.



Ah, but does it have a mix of metric AND non-metric screw threads scattered through the weapon like the Indian made FN-FAL rifles did.

Evidently they copied bits from the British license built version and the Belgian original in their own license built version. So the screw threads are not compatible with other models *consistently*

Or so I read many years ago.

ISTR that, even today, not all units of the Indian Army have 'modern' rifles and many were, until recently, still equipped with SMLEs! I presume these would not be frontline combat units, but back when the FN FAL was the service rifle it was certainly more prevalent even in some combat units.

A lot of Indian 'Security Services' (aka 'Police' of various sorts) are evidently also still equipped with SMLEs ... not the elite guys, but those that are merely a step up from a Beat Cop equivalent.

(Note: Even though I call them SMLEs and FN-FALs they were, after Independence, largely manufactured in India and have Indian designations, but are, in fact, lightly modified from the originals).

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