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USS Patoka: Jijacked! - 2/6/2015 8:14:11 AM   
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Stock (and RHS) class slots 2391 to 2393.

Checking on an archive of ship are (99% of it supplied by Cobra) from WITP/RHS,
I found the curious case of USS Patoka. A class popular in AE and various mods, it appears the ship never did serve as an AO in the Pacific theater. Nor was she in the Pacific at all before 1944 - when she served as an AG. She could, of course, have easily converted to AO or AV configurations - both of which she had done. Note her armament apparently also didn't include 3 inch guns.

USS Patoka (AO-9)
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USS Shenandoah moored to the USS Patoka (AO-9)
Patoka with Shenandoah moored alongside
Career (USA)
Name: USS Patoka
Builder: Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co., Newport News, Virginia
Laid down: 17 December 1918
Launched: 26 July 1919
Acquired: 3 September 1919
Commissioned: 13 October 1919
Decommissioned: 31 August 1933
Recommissioned: 10 November 1939
Decommissioned: 1 July 1946
Struck: 31 July 1946
Fate: Scrapped, 15 March 1948
General characteristics
Class & type: Patoka-class replenishment oiler
Displacement: 16,800 long tons (17,070 t)
Length: 477 ft 10 in (145.64 m)
Beam: 60 ft (18 m)
Draft: 26 ft 2 in (7.98 m)
Speed: 11 knots (20 km/h; 13 mph)
Complement: 168
Armament: 2 × 5 in (130 mm) guns
4 × 40 mm guns

USS Patoka (AO–9/AV–6/AG–125) was a fleet oiler made famous as a tender for the airships Shenandoah (ZR-1), Los Angeles (ZR-3) and Akron (ZRS-4). It was also notable in that its height (177 feet (54 m)) figured prominently in the design of Rainbow Bridge in Texas (the bridge design required that the Patoka, then the tallest ship in the Naval fleet, could sail under it; however, it never did).

Named for the Patoka River, Patoka was laid down on 17 December 1918 by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company of Newport News, Virginia and launched on 26 July 1919. Acquired by the Navy from the USSB on 3 September 1919, and commissioned on 13 October 1919, Commander Ernest F. Robinson in command.


Contents
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1 1920s and 1930s
2 World War II, 1941-1943
3 1944-1945
4 Fate
5 See also
6 References
7 External links

1920s and 1930s[edit]

Patoka undergoing maintenance in Boston in 1929

Los Angeles tied up to Patoka during Fleet Problem XII in 1931 off Panama
Assigned to the Naval Overseas Transportation Service, Patoka departed Norfolk on 4 November 1919 for Port Arthur, Texas, where she loaded fuel oil and sailed for Scotland, arriving on the Clyde on 6 December. She returned to Port Arthur for more oil and got under way on 9 January 1920 for the Adriatic Sea, arriving at Split on 12 February. Returning to the United States in April Patoka went back to the Near East, arriving at Istanbul in June. After duty in the Adriatic and Mediterranean she returned to the United States, and served on both the east and west coasts until 1924 when she was selected as a tender for the rigid airship USS Shenandoah

A mooring mast some 125 feet above the water was constructed; additional accommodations both for the crew of Shenandoah and for the men who handled and supplied the airship were added; facilities for the helium, gasoline, and other supplies necessary for Shenandoah were built; as well as handling and stowage facilities for three seaplanes. This work by the Norfolk Navy Yard was completed shortly after 1 July 1924. Patoka retained her classification of AO–9.

Patoka engaged in a short series of mooring experiments with the Shenandoah, which had reported to the Commander, Scouting Fleet, for duty on 1 August 1924. The first successful mooring was made on 8 August 1924.

In October, Patoka, along with the cruisers Milwaukee and Detroit, were assigned stations in the mid-Atlantic to furnish the US Navy's second operational airship, Los Angeles, with the weather reports and forecasts during her flight, 12 to 15 October 1924, from Germany, where she had been built, to Lakehurst Naval Air Station, New Jersey.

During 1925 Patoka operated with both Shenandoah and Los Angeles in demonstrating the mobility of airships, and in reducing the number of ground personnel required to handle them. A projected polar flight by Shenandoah, using Patoka as her base of operations, was cancelled when the airship was lost in a storm on 3 September 1925.

Between 1925 and 1932 Patoka operated with Los Angeles and served as her base of supply and operations on her long-range flights to Puerto Rico (1925), Panama (1928), Florida (1929), and during the fleet concentration off Panama (1931). During 1932 she also operated with the newly acquired airship Akron, but the decommissioning of Los Angeles on 30 June 1932, and the loss of Akron on 4 April 1933 saw a reduced need for an airship tender, with Patoka decommissioned on 31 August 1933.

On 10 November 1939 Patoka recommissioned at the Puget Sound Navy Yard, Comdr. C.A.F. Sprague in command, and reported to Patrol Wing 5, Aircraft, Scouting Force. Her classification had been changed to AV–6, seaplane tender, on 11 October 1939.

On 18 January 1940 she departed Puget Sound and, after taking on fuel and cargo at San Pedro, arrived at San Diego on the 31st. She steamed for the east coast on 5 February and reached Norfolk on 25 March. Next Patoka was assigned to the Naval Transportation Service in June and was reclassified AO–9 on 19 June 1940.

On 13 August she departed Norfolk and sailed to Houston. Between August and December 1940, she operated out of Houston and Baytown, Texas, delivering fuel oil to Boston, Melville, Norfolk, Charleston, and Key West.

From March 1941 to September Patoka delivered fuel oil and general cargo to various units of the Fleet in the Atlantic, Gulf, and Caribbean areas. On 28 September she departed Norfolk and proceeded, via Aruba, to Recife, Brazil. Patoka made one more round trip to Recife before the United States entered World War II.

World War II, 1941-1943[edit]
On 7 December 1941, Patoka was moored at Recife, acting as tanker, cargo, store ship, and repair ship. Here she supplied the units of Task Force 3 (later 23) with fuel, diesel, lubricating oil; gasoline stores; provisions; and repairs.

Shortly after the turn of the new year 1942, she got under way for Bahia, Brazil, anchoring there on 8 January. There, she received word that ships bearing rubber and other vital war goods had left French Indochina bound for the Axis controlled ports in Europe. Patoka requested and received permission to patrol the shipping lanes off Bahia. When she had completed her patrol duties she put into port and returned to Recife on 22 January. Six days later she was bound for San Juan, Puerto Rico, but en route she was diverted to Trinidad, B.W.I. Taking on fuel and stores she returned to Recife. Standing out of the harbor on 21 February, she again set course, changed several times to avoid reported submarines, and reached San Juan, Puerto Rico, on 4 March. Her return trip to Recife was made without incident.

On 25 May 1942, while again returning to Recife from Trinidad escorted by USS Jouett (DD-396), Patoka sighted an enemy submarine on the surface. Jouett attacked, forcing the U-boat to dive and continued the attack until Patoka had escaped. Patoka remained at Recife, continuing to supply the ships of Task Force 23 with provisions, supplies and tender services until April 1943, with occasional trips to Puerto Rico and Trinidad for replenishment. Patoka then got underway for home, reaching Norfolk on 22 May for overhaul. She sailed for New York on 6 August to join a convoy bound for Aruba, N.W.I. and resumed operations along the coast of South America.

1944-1945[edit]
In April 1944, she carried 62 prisoners of war (German naval and merchant marine personnel) from Rio de Janeiro to Recife where they were turned over to the U.S. Army. Patoka departed on 24 March and arrived Norfolk on 6 April for an overhaul period, to prepare for duty in the Pacific.

On 15 June, Patoka departed from Norfolk for the Panama Canal and Pearl Harbor. There she was outfitted for duty as a minecraft tender and was reclassified AG–125 on 15 August 1945. Shortly thereafter she sailed via Guam for Okinawa, reaching Buckner Bay on 5 September. Patoka provided the minecraft with tender services until 21 September at which time she got underway for Wakayama, Japan. Anchoring there on 23 September, she continued to provide logistic support to units of the 5th Fleet, servicing mine vessels of Task Group 52.6. She remained with the occupation forces until the spring of 1946, returning to the United States on 10 March 1946.

Fate[edit]
Patoka was decommissioned on 1 July 1946, transferred to the War Shipping Administration, and was struck from the Navy List on 31 July 1946. She was sold to Dulien Steel Products Co. for scrap on 15 March 1948.


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RE: USS Patoka - 2/8/2015 4:55:18 AM   
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The Wikipedia is a straight up copy and past from the Dictionary of American Fighting Ships as published by the US Navy History and Heritage Command.

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RE: USS Patoka - 2/9/2015 8:47:00 PM   
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Sid, Still need art for this ship.....GP

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RE: USS Patoka - 2/11/2015 5:10:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: General Patton
Sid, Still need art for this ship.....GP

Patoka class is at Stock/Babes bitmap 351. Been there since 2007. How nice of ya'll to finally notice.

[ed] Sid's paradigm is from WiTP-1 and has little relevence to anything beyond 2007. He is trying to impress his 2007 RHS stuff onto AE. He made his reputation, back in WiTP-1 days, by suggesting he was in secret contact with the developers. He wasn't. The devs wouldn't have anything to do with him.

Ever notice that none of his so-called team ever posts on his AARs? Ever notice that one day the hit count is reasonable, and the next day the hit count jumps by 1000? Woof!
I think most of you are smart enough to know the difference.

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RE: USS Patoka - 2/11/2015 11:46:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Symon

[ed] Sid's paradigm is from WiTP-1 and has little relevence to anything beyond 2007. He is trying to impress his 2007 RHS stuff onto AE. He made his reputation, back in WiTP-1 days, by suggesting he was in secret contact with the developers. He wasn't. The devs wouldn't have anything to do with him.

Ever notice that none of his so-called team ever posts on his AARs? Ever notice that one day the hit count is reasonable, and the next day the hit count jumps by 1000? Woof!
I think most of you are smart enough to know the difference.


This forum can be such a downer sometimes.

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RE: USS Patoka - 2/12/2015 8:49:55 AM   
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No - I found some - but I will consider replacing it if you have some to look at.

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ORIGINAL: General Patton

Sid, Still need art for this ship.....GP


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RE: USS Patoka - Hijacked! - 2/12/2015 8:59:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Symon

quote:

ORIGINAL: General Patton
Sid, Still need art for this ship.....GP

Patoka class is at Stock/Babes bitmap 351. Been there since 2007. How nice of ya'll to finally notice.

[ed] Sid's paradigm is from WiTP-1 and has little relevence to anything beyond 2007. He is trying to impress his 2007 RHS stuff onto AE. He made his reputation, back in WiTP-1 days, by suggesting he was in secret contact with the developers. He wasn't. The devs wouldn't have anything to do with him.

Ever notice that none of his so-called team ever posts on his AARs? Ever notice that one day the hit count is reasonable, and the next day the hit count jumps by 1000? Woof!
I think most of you are smart enough to know the difference.



Thank you for the (unintended) compliment, saying in effect RHS WAS relevant until 2007. Well you might.
It was RHS that demonstrated there is player interest in midget submarines, blimps, a Russian navy, and actual
implementation of drop tanks (which existed in code but were not used). It was RHS that showed a global, map
edge movement track for the Allies might be popular. The list is very long - and it is completely appropriate.
RHS could not exist without Matrix or the code we use. RHS itself is very rich because it borrows ideas
shamelessly from others. Mostly when offered as a suggestion. But I bet Treespider does not know we have many
of his ideas (because Mifune is a fan of his). Lately I find I am using political sections - and when I tried
to give credit to Mifune - he corrected me publically (in the RHS list anyway) - saying - nope - he got it from
Treespider. But assuming Treespider would not look at RHS, he has no clue we use the concept at all. I don't
mind if any ideas we use get adopted somewhere else - and perhaps 90% of what I use isn't something I dreamed up.

I realize that you say what you believe to be true. As you prefer to believe your (negative) assumptions,
it is probably not possible to educate you about what really happened, or when, or with whom? But for the sake
of those who are open to new data, I will briefly describe the history and current state of RHS. This is a
standalone effort: I will not be drawn into a flame war; many in RHS are refugees from past flame wars on
the Forums. And there is nothing to be gained by throwing mud in the first place.

I did not intend to create RHS. I didn't even name it! Instead, I was asked to rework aircraft performance
data for CHS, a major mod in WITP days. I was supervised by a professional programmer not then employed by Matrix.
He laid down the criteria I was to use - setting standards of sources and such - and reviewed the methods used
to turn raw data into field values. When we were reasonably satisfied, we submitted it to the CHS Coordinator,
who approved the lot - with the nominal result that Japanese plane data would change in future releases of CHS.
But then something went wrong - a "plank holder" (whatever that is) for CHS came back from a trip - went ballistic -
and somehow reversed the decision to use the data. After trying to reconcile the two of us - I got one email
complaining about the lack of range for the "long range Pete" and no more - he gave up and said CHS protocols did
not allow him to overrule any of the several "plank holders" - Andrew Brown suggested I release the data in a new
mod. It was nameless - until the supervising programmer - Joe Wilkerson - suggested a variation of RSH (Real
Sub Hunter) - which I adopted.

That was still not enough. Contrary to your suggestion I work all alone, in fact I could not do a mod: I am not
an artist. I asked for one and within a couple of days had a prolific one - Cobra Aus. He did most of the art
for the WITP edition of RHS - until time constraints caused him to stop making more. That might have been the end of
that - I was STILL not able to do art - but Mifune took his place. He had other roles, as well. Mifune complied
the RHS Manual, and contributed many technical things, including finally fixing the biggest formula problem we
have - with aircraft maneuverability - a problem because it takes more than one field to describe such maneuverability
well. After the demise of WITP, and my going away for some years because duty called, Mifune began development
of an AE version of RHS. Later he helped me create air art for AE RHS and his scenario - minus some ship art
nobody ever made yet - is now in evaluation form as RHS Scenario 99.

If this tale sounds like one saying I worked with one partner, that also is misleading. About HALF the content
of RHS comes from numbers of suggestions made in the forums, or by email. Not liking the CHS system, we made
RHS an open mod. We listen to any suggestion or correction made. We TRY to adopt them. Having several scenarios,
if we can't use it in all, maybe we can use it in some? There also generally are two to four people actively
hunting eratta - all over the world. And there are generally playtesters - RHS tries to understand how things
really work in code by testing. There is also an RHS community (not counting one I know nothing about in Japan).
Most of what I post in the forums is a reposting - sans attachments - of what I send to those on the RHS email list.
I do an AAR because of critics, like you, who said I should. I don't really see why a person would read an AAR
instead of playing their own game - but it is a Matrix tradition - and a way to talk about things unique to RHS
you can't do in other mods.

Other threads - like this one - are FYI. They are ONLY for people who are interested in correcting stock -
which I assume is the basis for most personal mods - and ONLY IF they think I might be a source of interest.
{I don't see why anyone who did not respect me would bother to read such a thread in the first place?] It is
not a place to make snide or hostile comments - which IMHO are a violation of the terms of use of the Forums
to begin with. Nor a place to change the subject to something else - in particular not to allege something
you cannot know about because you were never a party to the project. Finally, I note that your implication I
might imply something that was not true says a great deal more about you than it does about me. Nobody would
spend the kind of time I do on a project and waste time on a falsehood which could serve no purpose. If you
study deception professionally you would learn it is not something easy to sustain - the usual reasons for using
it are to gain a momentary, tactical advantage - and even that probably won't work if you don't usually tell
the truth. It is lousy policy to live by, and worse when dealing with associates who presumably need good information
in order to make better product. But the assumption reveals a good deal about how you think and what you expect?

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RE: USS Patoka - Hijacked! - 2/13/2015 2:21:03 PM   
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When Cid was working on the original RHS I was on his modding team.
For me, this was NOT an internal "political thing", it was simply a mod team effort long before WITP-AE was ever envisioned.

RHS would certainly have gained a lot more popularity if Cid were not so involved in his VERY deep research..With him, everything just had to be "perfect"
Many times, RHS was ready to be released, to be delayed when new info came down the pike.

The blimps, the Avro Ansons and inclusion of ships like the Wakefield were a couple of my requests.
I had run them past a couple of the devs of WITP, and the ideas were shot down,(in spite of their historical involvement in the theatre.)

I refused then, and refuse now to be involved in any political headbumping over this game, but I must point out Cid did (then) get a lot of bad press, but his philosophy for the most part seems to have been to turn the other cheek.

For a game mod, I just don't understand the open breaches of civility..

BTW...As Cid mentioned, our friend Cobra Aus contributed a lot to RHS, and WITP, as a modder..I stayed in contact with him as long as was possible.

Here is his obituary;

HAMILTON, Peter Daryl. - February 4, 2012 at St Vincent's Hospital, only son of William and Laura (both dec). Loved husband and friend of Sandra. Devoted father of Christine (Mrs Bouma), Carolynne, Samantha (Mrs Dodd) and Adam. Dearly loved pop and grandpa of Martin, Toni, Liam, Catherine, Casey, Ricky and Amelia. Great-grandfather of Logan. Respected father- in-law of Anita, Matt and Mark. A new star in cyber space

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