i still haven't got actively involved in the game and the discussions as yet, as i still don't own the game either, it's a Christmas present from my girlfriend so will have to wait a while longer, but my take on this thread and topic are as follows...
the price is good and fair... for the amount of time and effort that's gone into it and still is, and will be for the next 4 to 5 years at least, with patches and fixes and upgrades etc...
you can't put a price on support, not at any cost!
while the game on release may not be perfect for every ones taste, it's not full of bugs etc either, for me it's still maybe a tad too hard for the beginner like me as i still haven't managed to finish one battle in WITE so i know this won't be a part time game either, so may just sit there on my drive for a few months or year maybe or so, which is no problem either for me or my games, as time can always be found later for good stuff, and by then a few more issues may have been ironed out, changed or updated etc... or a patch or 2 down the road, after some more tweaking, as these games always need the tweaks and lets be honest the developers always tinker a lot anyway so i'm just glad it's at least been released as they do tend to keep adding and altering bits etc as they are all gamers as well, and are never truly happy with anything released either and are alwasy thinking of doing more stuff, which is the main reason we all like there games
so lets keep up the fight, with the right people, in game and not on the forums and say merry Christmas to all involved and a big thank you and hope you all have a happy new year, as you all deserve it...
Which is the objective base to say that the price is fair? Someone pointed this to me before and he was right. Why not 800$ for a 3 years of hard work? Why? itís very subjective. And u donít even have the game. First try the product, then divide the cost for the hours of fun and enjoyment. Thatís how i rate the worth of a product. Wite was cheap using this parameter. Very cheap. A bargain. Witw is too high. And I donít really need to force me to play this hours and hours as I wrongly said before. No. With one week i know exactly my feelings playing this game. The sensation of boredom will remain. As a german and as the allies. Again we are in the subjective realm. For me itís a desing and timeframe issue. And i know its hard for the guys who had work with passion in this game to read these things. I know and im not smiling saying it. Im not coming here to say like a child ďuuu donít like donít like uuuí Nooooo. When they announce witw I thought that the whole scale was a mistake and was wrong for the kind of game they were planning. Maybe when War in Europe is ready, in global is a superb product..dont know, maybe. But at the end, in my opinion, I was correct for this concrete game. Itís a good western front 43-45 simulation game, with a lot of improvements such as logistics (a 10 out of 10) and air warfare, deep and plenty of new stuff and tweaks, and bugs aside, a really fine workÖ (have to say that the ia turns runs quite slowly in my pc) but lacks something crucial for me: enjoyment and fun, which wite had in tons. No matter the complexity of the games, all can be reduced to a matter of pleasure and enjoyment. And if im taking my FREE time to come here and tell the devs this its because I love their previous jobs and I donít want they think that everyone is in love with the new baby and they are on the right path. No. For me no. The scale also donít suits fine for France í40 (a campaing of 6 turns?), Yugoslavia (2 turns?), Greece, Poland and of course for North Africa. No way. With the same Wite scale will become boring campaings. Its not a matter of being a german fanboy and when the blitzkrieg arrives everything is going to be fine. No. itís a scale desing matter. Western and eastern fronts are completely different. But hey if everyone is happy with the game, have fun. Im back to other things also in the eternal search of wargaming fun. Lots of products in the market. its not a big drama. And If the devs are sure of their ideas and with the progress of war in Europe I wish them good luck. I hope they hit a home run. Sincerely. Im very thankful for the endless hours of satisfaction they have provide me in the last decade. Probably more than my wife has .... Honey, if u are reading this, obviously i was kidding...
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