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IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 4:38:05 PM   
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When i was seeing the new LHA USS America it came obviously the inclined stack of Japanese Junyo and Taiho.

New HMS Queen Elizabeth and Italian Cavour also have.

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http://www.navsea.navy.mil/teamships/PEOS_LHA6/images/DI060512-2745.jpg

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 5:33:37 PM   
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The older term for such funnels is 'raked'.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 5:39:55 PM   
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Looks good and it's far bigger than most (all?) WW2 CVs!!!

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 5:41:41 PM   
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It is actually bigger than most "foreign" carriers in active service...

not to mention more capable as a carrier than anything with the probable exception of the new QE

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 5:57:42 PM   
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quote:

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Looks good and it's far bigger than most (all?) WW2 CVs!!!


Bigger than all USN CVs except the Midway class. Also bigger than all IJN CVs except Shinano, which was a converted Yamato hull.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 7:43:23 PM   
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Why this kind of big Marine "aircraft carriers " don't have an angled deck?

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 7:56:25 PM   
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quote:

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Why this kind of big Marine "aircraft carriers " don't have an angled deck?



No need, considering it's operational requirements. Plus, it has a few things that a 'typical' carrier does not have

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/21/2014 10:37:02 PM   
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Only 22 knots though. It's a CVE on steroids. I believe it is intended for mostly helicopters with a few F-35 that can operate in STOL, so the angled deck is not needed.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 4:07:45 AM   
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Looks like it is ready to ROCK!

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 11:36:38 AM   
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Angled deck even if not needed conventionally still gives more deck park.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 12:08:59 PM   
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An angled deck also adds weight, especially off center weight. I believe the Essexes had to have a lot of weight added to the other side to keep them from being unstable when they were rebuilt.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 12:19:54 PM   
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An angled deck also adds weight, especially off center weight. I believe the Essexes had to have a lot of weight added to the other side to keep them from being unstable when they were rebuilt.

Bill


well, i thought that one of great pros of angled deck was that they did balanced wheight of island on other side.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 12:46:15 PM   
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Now that you bring it up, it probably does to some extent.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 1:08:27 PM   
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Helos and Harriers. Good mix back in the day. I saw a video of a F-35 landing test on a carrier about a year ago. Pretty cool...GP

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 2:31:38 PM   
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How good are those F-35s?


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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 2:50:43 PM   
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VTOL F-35's are still on the wish list until they get the bugs worked out. I see they changed the hangers and elevators to accommodate Osprey's, so it appears after a few years in service those are relatively bug free. At least, I think so

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/22/2014 3:49:12 PM   
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V-22 are NOW greatly appreciated by the Jar Heads and the Army. LONG, UGLY teething problems that HAVE been worked out.

And the French CVN can carry some capable aircraft.

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RE: IJN carrier inclined style stack as a new trend - 7/23/2014 10:57:51 AM   
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I just might be a little bit biased, but she seems worthy to carry the name.

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