I am Chinese and my English may not very well.
I want to introuduce you some turn-based war games from the eastern world.Actually,Chinese,Chinese Taiwan,Japanese all made a lot of classical war games based on ancient war,world war1/2,Korean war and mordern war.I am a fan of war games and I’ve played almost at least 70 war games(Even the oldest classics war game"Operation Europe：Path to Victory 1939-45"which made by Japanese in 1994 size maybe only 2MB that I've played for a long time.) from different countries from Chinese to English Russion and Japanese. Have to say,there are many many classical and interesting war games from the eastern world that westerners may even never heared of.It is a pity may because of language or other reasons.Some guys here may thought that they’ve seen all the most interesting games already,since I can hardly find a war game that I've never played or heared of,I have to say,you really not.
I want to introduce some of them but there are a lot of good classical games based on ancient China which westerners may hard to understand due to the very different culture,and I am lazy to type many many words in English,so I only choose 3 games based on world war2,Korean war and modern war to say something.
But first I want to tell some background of ww2 in the battlefield of China.Japan began it's war of aggression to China in 1937 before the outbreak of ww2 .Due to the wepon gap and other reasons,China fighted very hard,even China should have large manpower of troops,but big industry centers and population cities such as Shanghai,Peking,Wuhan… are occupied during the war so China has not very much resources to fight against the Japnese at all,but even we have to sent many 15-16year old Children to the battle,even during some battles we sufferred high losses even the proportion of casualties reached 30Chinese sodiers die:1 Japanese solider die,even at that time that all of the countries of Asia except China have surrendered to Japan, China never thought of surrender like France. Over 4 million Chinese soldiers still fight against Japanese,also due to this reason,Japan dare not and can not to send another large forces to attack the USSR with Germany or to landing on the USA at the beginning of the Ww2 when the Allies were very weak at that time.Then China had an ally of the USA and UK,at last after 8 years hard fighting,we won.Today,China want to try to keep good friendship with her once ally,but it may not easy since some western Great power consider China as a potential enemy or what.They meet with the leader called Dalai who wants to divide China and said him was a hero and even on the problem of Chinese Diaoyu Island,they ignore the true history and support Japan to continue occupy it.Lots of such things made China disappoint...all what they do is to contain China,but how is it possible by doing such things?...May they do not know China has 5000years history and China been the much most advanced country in the world for thousands of years in human history,but we never ever to invade even one country in history,China just share her culture,art,science and invention with the world.Japan in history,not.East and West,We should become to know each other but not to resist.
1.The 2 games based on Korean war and ww2(Chinese anti-Japanese war) (all Chinese,publishing date 1998 and 2001 )
(these 2 Chinese games are all turn-based SLG,but not RTS or what)
the game which based on Chinese anti-Japanese war,even accurate the troops,the weapons and the casualties to one person one rifle one wounded and one dead,I mean for example when I finish one battle,I may get this result:enemy dead 1326men captured1532men,captured567rifles,77mortars,17lighttanks,8mediumtanks,32artillery,AAguns,horses....and the captured weapons can be our own use for the following battles.
Another Chinese game based on Korean war,equipment types even more and much detailed.it contains over 100 historical real weapons used in Korean war from land,air to navy,from all kinds of helmet,FieldCombatShoes,medicine,mine,rifle,machine guns ,armed Vehicles ond so on even the USA have atomic bomb.
Although some of the western games also can do this such as WITE/WITP,even steel panzers or some what? But,I have to say,the 2 Chinese games’s detail just make the game more interesting to play,but to the players,they are still easy game to play and not hard or complicated at all,even my 10year old relative child can play them.but the Wite/witp,I think their detail are much more complicated and hard to play for the players,may some people like that,but not for all.And I must say,the 2 Chinese games also not the same type with wite,blitzkrieg,suddenstrike or other western war games,they are detailed but so easy to understand,historical and have some interesting elements I’ve never seen in other war games.If let me give a mark to them,If the 2 Chinese games mark10,steel panzers may only mark3. And they are through the whole historical war,if you want to play through one of them,it may take you two weeks,when you finish one time,you may find you can play it again in another different way and will not feel boring.(I’ve played through both of the 2 games for over 10 times)Not like some of the western games,I bougt many many English war games but some of them I can play through them for only one or two days and when I finish I have no interest to play it once more.(by the way,I think Panzergeneral 2/3 are very classical war games which I also played through for over 20 times)
Melee combat:In a lot of western games,if you have enough more power to melee or to attack,you win with almost no men lost and the enemies all die.Is that OK and real....?China has a archaism,in English,means in a victory,if you Hurt one thousand enemies may yourself army have eight hundred losses.
So,in both of the 2 Chinese games,you also have to melee sometime,because the ammo may usually not enough especially for exemple in the Korean war based game when a infantry unit fire with automatic weapon several times.So if the condition is allowed in the Korean war based game I usually equip my infantry unit with rifle,automatic weapon,mine,hand grenade and mortars in the meantime for different situations.But when still lack of ammo and your unit had throw it's last hand grenade and you can not get supply in time,your unit have to melee,but even your unit's morale very high,you can not get 0 loss in melee combat.even your unit have 10,000 men to melee 100 men,you may get 66men,83men,205men…lost.It depends on the situation,and melee combat shaken both of the two sides much and unit'fatigue will increase high.
the first photo,you can see,this is me,I create my self in the game as a division commander,choose my unit type as special forces.
you can see my special forces now has 410 men,0 wounded morale 100,0 fatigue strength,experience 93, 10 unit of ammo.On the right are my special skills and tactics.below are my unit's equipment,there are Steel Helmet,apple(can reduce fatigue strength ) ,hand grenade,captured M-37 and Bazooka,type93 heavy machine gun,81mm mortar and horse,next 4 are anti-infantry mines and anti-tank mines.The last 4 equipment were in red color indicate that my experience gained was not enough to use them now.By the way,type93 heavy machine gun,even now I can not use it yet,I steal it from my AI controlled friendly force and instead I threw an rifle to them to fight...how bad man I am...
I was told by system that I can not put links here for 7 days,so I cut off the "h t t p : //" before every picture link,If necessary, you may add it yourself,sorry.
1.the game based on Korean war: (this game is over 15 years old,so the pictures may not very beautiful)
2.the game based on Anti-Japanese War: (also a many years ago game in my pc now too.)
3. A Japan-made game based on mordern war
All these words I said means that I hope war games from different countries can learn the advantages from eachother and make more interesting games for players all over the world.
Maybe somebody do not know that China has over 0.633 billion internet users and 0.52 billion Mobile Internet users which over the whole population of the USA + Europe.China is a large market of PC games, ** EDITED DISCUSSION ABOUT PIRACY ** but even a lot of Chinese like me,still want to buy a matrixgames's copy to play,their English is not so good to play a war game in English,and matrixgames had never make a Chinese version to sell, so some Chinese guys will crack those games and some guys will translate them into Chinese and share them on Chinese game web with others to download.If
there are Chinese versions,I believe that there are still many Chinese players would like to buy one.
So I hope that,you may know what I hope.Thankyou!
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