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Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/7/2014 11:47:52 AM   
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Hello everyone! Does anybody know what are the best game settings for a guaranteed Shakturi appearance?

My settings:
- 10x10 galaxy
- 700 stars
- 9 races
- slowest research speed

Beacon of Shaktur in my games appear around year 2200, after investigating it nothing happens. Almost half of research tree has been researched by year 2260, still no Shakturi. Maybe I should increase research speed in settings? Thank you!

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/7/2014 12:23:28 PM   
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You need fast Research, the Shakturi only appears after all Races have a certain techlvl.

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/7/2014 12:55:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Flinkebeinchen

You need fast Research, the Shakturi only appears after all Races have a certain techlvl.


Which level? 2nd or 3rd?

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/8/2014 1:37:19 AM   
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The Shakturi are great but currently they are set to appear WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too late in the game.

Particularly on higher difficulties they should be appearing BEFORE we are remotely close to being ready for them.


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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/8/2014 12:05:03 PM   
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Nobody except the Developer knows exactly which techlvl is necessary, only thing I know is that after a certain techlvl you can discover the "Shakturi Beacon" on any planet. After exploring it the Shakturi appear near the edge and settle down.

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/8/2014 12:17:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flinkebeinchen

Nobody except the Developer knows exactly which techlvl is necessary, only thing I know is that after a certain techlvl you can discover the "Shakturi Beacon" on any planet. After exploring it the Shakturi appear near the edge and settle down.

Sadly they don't appear, regardless of me investigating Shakturi Beacon or not. Hopefully in next expansion devs will give modding opportunity on Shakturi.

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/8/2014 1:41:19 PM   
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Can you confirm the Refugees of Eruktah (i.e. the Shakturi reveal comes later) have not showed up Tyrador?

Maybe technology levels are still not high enough. Whatever the limit is ... I understand it's a lot higher than halfway.

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/8/2014 3:22:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icemania

Can you confirm the Refugees of Eruktah (i.e. the Shakturi reveal comes later) have not showed up Tyrador?

Maybe technology levels are still not high enough. Whatever the limit is ... I understand it's a lot higher than halfway.



Yes, they did not show up. Now my tech tree is 70% complete...still no Eruktah. That's really annoying. I'll start another game and increase research speed.


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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/8/2014 7:10:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tyrador


quote:

ORIGINAL: Flinkebeinchen

Nobody except the Developer knows exactly which techlvl is necessary, only thing I know is that after a certain techlvl you can discover the "Shakturi Beacon" on any planet. After exploring it the Shakturi appear near the edge and settle down.

Sadly they don't appear, regardless of me investigating Shakturi Beacon or not. Hopefully in next expansion devs will give modding opportunity on Shakturi.


If you triggered the Beacon, they're around.

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/9/2014 4:56:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Spacecadet


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tyrador


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ORIGINAL: Flinkebeinchen

Nobody except the Developer knows exactly which techlvl is necessary, only thing I know is that after a certain techlvl you can discover the "Shakturi Beacon" on any planet. After exploring it the Shakturi appear near the edge and settle down.

Sadly they don't appear, regardless of me investigating Shakturi Beacon or not. Hopefully in next expansion devs will give modding opportunity on Shakturi.


If you triggered the Beacon, they're around.


Not in my case. Where do they appear?


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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/9/2014 8:19:02 PM   
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I would love to see a modification to the Shakturi's arrival, to make it a little more mysterious and a little less predictable. Suppose once you trigger the beacon, 3-5 refugee races show up, claiming to be fleeing the great Shakturi menace. All but one of those races is actually telling the truth, and the remaining one is the real Shakturi race, which only reveals itself later. Keep the player guessing for a while!

The game could even plant some hints as to which one is the real Shakturi, which the player could uncover by espionage, exploration, etc.

Sorry, didn't mean to derail this thread.

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/10/2014 2:44:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cauldyth

I would love to see a modification to the Shakturi's arrival, to make it a little more mysterious and a little less predictable. Suppose once you trigger the beacon, 3-5 refugee races show up, claiming to be fleeing the great Shakturi menace. All but one of those races is actually telling the truth, and the remaining one is the real Shakturi race, which only reveals itself later. Keep the player guessing for a while!

The game could even plant some hints as to which one is the real Shakturi, which the player could uncover by espionage, exploration, etc.

Sorry, didn't mean to derail this thread.


Very good idea Cauldyth! Please post this in the Master Wishlist!

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/10/2014 3:16:25 AM   
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Done!

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/10/2014 11:03:33 AM   
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Agree again Cauldyth but they still need to come WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY earlier


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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/10/2014 10:05:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tyrador


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ORIGINAL: Spacecadet


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ORIGINAL: Tyrador


quote:

ORIGINAL: Flinkebeinchen

Nobody except the Developer knows exactly which techlvl is necessary, only thing I know is that after a certain techlvl you can discover the "Shakturi Beacon" on any planet. After exploring it the Shakturi appear near the edge and settle down.

Sadly they don't appear, regardless of me investigating Shakturi Beacon or not. Hopefully in next expansion devs will give modding opportunity on Shakturi.


If you triggered the Beacon, they're around.


Not in my case. Where do they appear?



Sometimes another Empire triggers the Beacon, so in that case you won't immediately see them.

They generally take up residence along the edge, but no always.

Have you explored the entire Galaxy?

If you don't see them, I'd like to see a Save game of that.








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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/11/2014 8:39:52 AM   
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I may be off but I seem to recall from past forum posts long ago that tech needs to be 4+ (for all races) and a certain high percentage of continental planets need to be inhabited. Don’t quote me on this as the older I get the less accurate my memory gets lol.

Jim

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/11/2014 1:46:29 PM   
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I may be off but I seem to recall from past forum posts long ago that tech needs to be 4+ (for all races) and a certain high percentage of continental planets need to be inhabited. Don’t quote me on this as the older I get the less accurate my memory gets lol.

Jim


I think there are different ways to reach the appearance of the Beacon, overall Galaxy Tech level, Galaxy colonization, or a combination of the two.

Might be another as well, but these are just determinates of the Beacon of Shaktur showing up.

You can actually have the Beacon sitting in a game indefinitely and nothing will happen.
It's only when you or another Empire actually explore the Beacon that things kick into gear.

Seeing the Beacon just means things are ready, it has to be triggered by investigating it.








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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/11/2014 2:25:56 PM   
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All, to narrow this down a bit, when the Shakturi first appear in your games, could I suggest recording in this thread the settings and galaxy status at the time?

Or better yet some clarity from Elliott ...




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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/13/2014 8:27:05 PM   
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You have most likely missed a Beacon or you need only 1 tech line at level 5 or 6.

I think they arrive at the good time.The ancients save your ass.



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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/14/2014 1:15:21 PM   
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@ You have most likely missed a Beacon or you need only 1 tech line at level 5 or 6.
I think they arrive at the good time.The ancients save your ass.
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what if you have conquered the ancients?

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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/14/2014 1:56:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76

or you need only 1 tech line at level 5 or 6.



Could you confirm this Ashbery76 based on your experience?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "tech line" but this maybe the problem. I research select technologies to the end of their research trees (researching in lines makes no strategic sense). I won't have a "line" (e.g. every technology in High Tech in 5+) until vastly later in the game.

A better criteria would be average technology level. And if it's average technology level that is used it needs to be vastly reduced at least on higher difficulties because even when the Shakturi arrive they are a joke.

In my current game it's 20 years beyond the point at which my empire is 5x bigger than the next largest empire and I'm bored out of my mind waiting for the Shakturi to arrive.


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RE: Shakturi appearance? (SPOILERS) - 3/14/2014 2:35:42 PM   
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I've got the same problem in my game, I'm steamrolling everyone and waiting.

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