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Slow game play - 3/3/2014 2:50:18 PM   
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I just purchased this game last weekend I have it downloaded to my home computer and my lab top which both have windows 8. I've downloaded it 3 different times with the patches and I still have major 5 sec lag time when ever I try to scroll around the map. Its even worse when I go to any given base and try to scroll thru the different units. Even when I try to exit the game it takes about 10 seconds for the quit option to come up. The game takes long enough with out the lag. Had played this game on my last computer and never had this problem.
Is there any step by step fix that I could do to speed the game up for computer dummies?

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 3:29:55 PM   
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Look in the readme.rtf in the root directory for the game. Read up on performance switches. You need to insert some in your launch shortcut. If you need help in how to do that after reading ask here. It's a common question.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 3:33:28 PM   
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Just for a little added information - you will want to download either a beta or official path - I believe that is when the switches were added to allow for helping some graphics cards

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 3:37:26 PM   
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Just for a little added information - you will want to download either a beta or official path - I believe that is when the switches were added to allow for helping some graphics cards


I believe the core switches were in the original release and a hotfix was issued to modify them in July 2009. If the OP has any patches, as he says he does, he has the switches.

Yes, he should patch to the latest official patch, including data patch, and then consider patching to the betas. But he has switches now.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 6:34:22 PM   
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I read the performance examples. I have windows 8 with intel core i7. I right clicked the desktop icon went to properties then short cut. then under target and the start in areas added -cpu2 –multiaudio –dd_sw and it kept giving me target box is not valid. It looked like this when I was done.

start in "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition"-cpu2 –multiaudio –dd_sw

under target "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\autorun.exe""-cpu2 –multiaudio –dd_sw

it kept saying target box is not valid when I tried to change it

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 6:49:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gimp36

I read the performance examples. I have windows 8 with intel core i7. I right clicked the desktop icon went to properties then short cut. then under target and the start in areas added -cpu2 –multiaudio –dd_sw and it kept giving me target box is not valid. It looked like this when I was done.

start in "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition"-cpu2 –multiaudio –dd_sw

under target "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\autorun.exe""-cpu2 –multiaudio –dd_sw

it kept saying target box is not valid when I tried to change it


Remove the command from the start in, there are only need in the target.

like this :
start in "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition"

under target "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\autorun.exe"-cpu2 –multiaudio –dd_sw

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 6:51:46 PM   
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can someone just copy and paste an example of what it should look like under properties then shortcut or I'm putting it in the wrong spot?

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 6:58:25 PM   
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thanks Gaspote I tried that under short cut the target and it keeps telling me that target box is not valid when I try and apply it.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 7:01:15 PM   
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the target is supposed to be : "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe"
I missed this.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/10/1393876701-help.png

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 7:11:28 PM   
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Under Windows 8, I have the same problem which I could not solve by any combination of switch settings that I could find. It was solved by running in a Window, rather than full screen, though.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 7:14:52 PM   
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Did you try with "resolve compatibility problems" ? or changing compatibility mode (I don't know the exact terms in english)

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 7:20:28 PM   
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Ok I got that to stick in the target and I retried the game. land and naval units move a little faster but when going thru air units at a base or moving around the map there still about a 4 second delay. I left the start in box a lone. I changed compatibility to windows 7.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 7:35:10 PM   
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With Windows XP SP2 compatibility it should work better than windows 7.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 7:42:31 PM   
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I tried to minimize it under shortcut and now the game crashes when it starts up.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 8:02:45 PM   
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Ok I finially got it to work. I downloaded that beta patch and now it works just fine. The only thing wrong now it is not full screen. There is no lag when I play now. If you have windows 8 I would download the patch.

Thanks to everyone who helped me.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 8:08:40 PM   
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To have full screen you have to remove the -w or something like that from the target, and add what you previously add.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 8:11:16 PM   
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FWIW, I have an Intel i7 and have always used -cpu4 with good results in Win 7.

I can't tell from pixels, but make sure in all the switches you used the hyphen key and not the dash key. In the post where you first show your switches it looks like two of them might be dashes. When/if you do hi rez screen be aware that the example in the readme.rtf has a typo in that it USES DASHES for the -px, -py example. Many have cut & pasted from the readme over the years and come here with it not working.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 8:12:21 PM   
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FWIW as well, this is my switch array in Win 7 on a pretty large monitor.

-altFont -multiaudio -archive -dd_sw -cpu4 -fd -px1680 -py1050

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 9:01:03 PM   
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Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)

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RE: Slow game play - 3/3/2014 10:03:36 PM   
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The end of my string has -f (full screen)





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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 12:58:01 AM   
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Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)


I never use the numeric keypad; I had to look closely to see what you mean.

From ancient memory they are different ASCII symbols with different hexadecimal code underneath. To your box they're as different as an 'A' and a '5'.

I think my keyboard is standard, if that still means anything. My hyphen is lower-case key to right of '0'. The upper-case on that key is the underscore. Very useful in computer coding.

There are two kinds of dashes, explained here by Wiki:

"Not to be confused with hyphen or minus sign.

A dash is a punctuation mark that is similar to a hyphen or minus sign but that differs from both of these symbols primarily in length and function. The most common versions of the dash are the en dash (–) and the em dash (—), named for the length of a typeface's lower-case n and upper-case M respectively.

Usage varies both within English and in other languages, but the usual convention in printed English text is:
Either version may be used to denote a break in a sentence or to set off parenthetical statements, although writers are generally cautioned to use a single form consistently within their work. In this function, en dashes are used with spaces and em dashes are used without them:[1]

[Em dash:] A flock of sparrows—some of them juveniles—alighted and sang.


[En dash:] A flock of sparrows – some of them juveniles – alighted and sang.

The en dash (but not the em dash) is also used to indicate spans or differentiation, where it may be considered to replace "and" or "to" (but not "to" in the phrase "from … to …"):[2]

The French and Indian War (1754–1763) was fought in western Pennsylvania and along the present US–Canadian border (Edwards, pp. 81–101).

The em dash (but not the en dash) is also used to set off the sources of quotes:

In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing. — Oscar Wilde"

A hyphen looks very much like an en dash. But it isn't. Most word processors have AutoCorrect settings for how dashes will be formatted on the fly.


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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 1:10:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pws1225

Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)


I tried both and they both will work, so they are both hyphens, not dashes.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 1:53:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EHansen


quote:

ORIGINAL: pws1225

Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)


I tried both and they both will work, so they are both hyphens, not dashes.


Yes, but the point I made up-thread was that whomever typed up the readme.rtf so long ago must have had their word processor configured to make an en dash instead of a hyphen. If you cut & paste from the readme it doesn't work in the switch. If you type it in native from your keyboard with either hyphen key all is well.

To make an en dash on most keyboards requires pressing two keys. In many word processors it requires typing two hyphens with no space, and the WP merges them to an em dash. On an old typewriter there was no way to make a dash except two hyphens with a bit of white space between. But typesetters had "native" dashes in the linotype machine's keyboard. The names--em and en--come from those days where the horizontal width of each had to be accounted for in justification. Or so I've been told by one old linotype operator of 1940s training.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 1:59:48 AM   
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whatever.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 2:09:48 AM   
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whatever.


See, it's this kind of thoughtless response to a well-reasoned and explained post that makes me peeved.

I got your point. I said I got your point. But your point wasn't the point the OP needs to watch out for.

I've had a bad day on the forum dealing with idiots, boors, hypocrites, and yokels. I'm done for today.

Peace, man.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 9:12:03 AM   
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Just FYI, all the switches for slow speed I'm aware of were added for patch 1. The screen size switches were added patch 2 or 3. Michael may have added some since.

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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 9:56:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pws1225

Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)


Answering my own question, I checked the hex code of a simple 2 byte file created in notepad, the first byte being the dash-like thingy next to the "0" key and the other being the "minus sign" above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. Both are represented in notepad as hex code 2D so it would seem that either should work in setting up the switches.

[edited to add] If I have time to "research" this, does it mean I don't have a life?


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RE: Slow game play - 3/4/2014 8:08:04 PM   
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No you are just overly curious

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RE: Slow game play - 3/5/2014 9:36:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gimp36

Ok I finially got it to work. I downloaded that beta patch and now it works just fine. The only thing wrong now it is not full screen. There is no lag when I play now. If you have windows 8 I would download the patch.

Thanks to everyone who helped me.



Just in case it helps... For me it works fine in fullscreen on W8 with this (except I need to also minimise background windows I have running, or they'll annoyingly flicker in and out of the image while I'm in-game):

"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -skipVideo -deepColor -dd_sw -px1920 -py1080 -cpu3 -archive -autosave

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