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Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 2:07:01 AM   
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LONDON — One by one, the pubs are disappearing in Hampstead, a jewel-box village of cobbled lanes and Georgian homes that has become one of this city’s most fashionable neighborhoods. The Nags Head has become a realty office. The King of Bohemia is now a clothing shop. The Hare & Hounds has been replaced with an apartment building.

Changing economics and shifting tastes have claimed roughly one out of every five pubs during the last two decades in Britain, and things are growing worse. Since the 2008 financial crisis, 7,000 have shut, leaving some small communities confronting unthinkable: life without a “local,” as pubs are known.

And that has spurred the government into action. New legislation is letting people petition to have a pub designated an “asset of community value,” a status that provides a degree of protection from demolition and helps community groups buy pubs themselves, rather than seeing them get snatched up by real estate developers eager to convert them for other uses or tear them down. Since the Ivy House, a beloved local in south London, became the first to receive the designation last year, roughly 300 others have followed suit ...


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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 1:09:19 PM   
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Good to hear, they need to be saved!

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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 3:41:00 PM   
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Answer me this: why does owners of the pubs sell them?

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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 5:18:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

Answer me this: why does owners of the pubs sell them?


The owners of most pubs are the breweries, most of the pubs in my town have been sold off for flats etc. The one local to me was a very lively and much used pub but the brewery wanted to make some extra cash and raised the rent on it to the point that it was no longer viable financially so that the landlord would have no option but to shut it, all so the brewery could sell the place off to a supermarket chain to open a local mini store.

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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 5:47:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

Answer me this: why does owners of the pubs sell them?
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They are being sold or simply closed down because they are losing money (see post 1).


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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 6:02:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

Answer me this: why does owners of the pubs sell them?
warspite1

They are being sold or simply closed down because they are losing money (see post 1).


It would be better if they could make money on their own rather than having some kind of support.

I suppose their trouble is because less people frequent them. Or is it taxes?

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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 6:02:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

from NY Times:

LONDON — One by one, the pubs are disappearing in Hampstead, a jewel-box village of cobbled lanes and Georgian homes that has become one of this city’s most fashionable neighborhoods. The Nags Head has become a realty office. The King of Bohemia is now a clothing shop. The Hare & Hounds has been replaced with an apartment building.

Changing economics and shifting tastes have claimed roughly one out of every five pubs during the last two decades in Britain, and things are growing worse. Since the 2008 financial crisis, 7,000 have shut, leaving some small communities confronting unthinkable: life without a “local,” as pubs are known.

And that has spurred the government into action. New legislation is letting people petition to have a pub designated an “asset of community value,” a status that provides a degree of protection from demolition and helps community groups buy pubs themselves, rather than seeing them get snatched up by real estate developers eager to convert them for other uses or tear them down. Since the Ivy House, a beloved local in south London, became the first to receive the designation last year, roughly 300 others have followed suit ...



Last time I was there was in November of 2012. I stayed over 3 days for meetings in AMEC's offices. I stayed in a Holiday Inn, (scruffy place). I had no problem finding pubs all round the place. Plenty of drinking and socializing with the locals.




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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 9:36:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
Answer me this: why does owners of the pubs sell them?


Short-termism

There is more quick money to be made by charging high wholesale prices for beer to pubs tidied to a single supplier, then when the pub goes under, sell it for redevelopment.

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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/18/2014 10:21:26 PM   
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If you want to try and do something about it have a look here http://www.camra.org.uk/

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RE: Brit Pubs an endangered species - 2/22/2014 2:41:07 AM   
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