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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 5:01:01 PM   
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The problem is that people's belief or not falls very much along political lines. Even the fact that the word 'belief' is the standard for discussion of a fact-based physical phenomena shows that it is unfortunately as hard to discuss as religion.

So lets keep this thread on current weather in the UK and just avoid the snark and flames that are already beginning to appear (you know who you are...).

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Pip

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Well I know a lot of people were upset about the Scottish Independence thread being closed down. It was an entirely civilised, grown-up debate with give and take on both "sides".

This one on the other hand I entirely see why you would lock this if post 27 is the standard

Kineas, you can have an opinion - and that will be respected (albeit argued against). But to state as FACT that the debate has been settled, that humans are to blame, that the facts are becoming more evident year by year, is just complete and utter rubbish. I may be right, I may be wrong in my opposite view, but I do not state the debate has been settled - for the simple reason that it hasn't.

One question though before signing off on this thread. How many carbon emitting humans were on the earth the last time the ice disappeared from the poles?



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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 5:07:53 PM   
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Guys, come on. Please. Just stay on the topic of UK weather. Any more AGW posts, even in rebuttal, and the thread will be locked. Sorry.

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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 5:18:03 PM   
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Cheers, Pip.

So how is the weather where you reside?

Here it has been snowing today but it all melted away during the afternoon. I heard a rumour that a lot more snow is expected tomorrow but I believe it when I see it.


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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 5:19:41 PM   
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Met Office officially says it is the wettest winter ever.

From my perspective thankfully, my parents and other relatives have not been badly affected.
It has been a terrible tragedy for so many.

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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 5:58:46 PM   
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Met Office officially says it is the wettest winter ever.

From my perspective thankfully, my parents and other relatives have not been badly affected.
It has been a terrible tragedy for so many.
warspite1

The bizarre thing is that we are only a dry summer and a dry winter away from another drought


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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 6:10:03 PM   
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Met Office officially says it is the wettest winter ever.

From my perspective thankfully, my parents and other relatives have not been badly affected.
It has been a terrible tragedy for so many.
warspite1

The bizarre thing is that we are only a dry summer and a dry winter away from another drought


Is it often draught in England? I thought it always rained some during the summer and rained plenty during the winter.

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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 6:53:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

Met Office officially says it is the wettest winter ever.

From my perspective thankfully, my parents and other relatives have not been badly affected.
It has been a terrible tragedy for so many.
warspite1

The bizarre thing is that we are only a dry summer and a dry winter away from another drought


Is it often draught in England? I thought it always rained some during the summer and rained plenty during the winter.
warspite1

Two years ago we were about to be hit with hosepipe bans and all sorts - it hasn't stopped raining since.

Yes, all it needs is a couple of dry winters and we run short of water.


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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 6:54:47 PM   
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Not that bizzare at all, there just isn't the reservoir capacity* to cope with the water demand for an extended period.

If it doesn't rain, they start emptying.

*The North East aside. Keilder, Cow Green and Derwent were build to serve the demands of water intensive heavy industry, that isn't there anymore. The increase in domestic use pales by comparison.

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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 7:46:28 PM   
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Not that bizzare at all, there just isn't the reservoir capacity* to cope with the water demand for an extended period.

If it doesn't rain, they start emptying.

*The North East aside. Keilder, Cow Green and Derwent were build to serve the demands of water intensive heavy industry, that isn't there anymore. The increase in domestic use pales by comparison.

warspite1

Its pretty bizarre when Somerset is a giant lake, ground water levels are full to bursting, and just about every river seems to be bursting its banks...


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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/20/2014 9:20:06 PM   
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Read this, and swallow hard.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129571.900-britons-need-to-accept-their-new-climate.html#.UwZ_ZfldXd8

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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/21/2014 12:33:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

Not that bizzare at all, there just isn't the reservoir capacity* to cope with the water demand for an extended period.

If it doesn't rain, they start emptying.

*The North East aside. Keilder, Cow Green and Derwent were build to serve the demands of water intensive heavy industry, that isn't there anymore. The increase in domestic use pales by comparison.

warspite1

Its pretty bizarre when Somerset is a giant lake, ground water levels are full to bursting, and just about every river seems to be bursting its banks...



But it all runs off. Unlike a lot of other nations, the geology doesn't give us large aquifers which replenish and 'store' water under ground. Its almost all on the surface.



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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/21/2014 1:11:28 AM   
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What about all that rain in England wet or what. Huge sink holes opening up. I hear one of those climate change denying types fell down the hole. He just said its not happening so he's fine.

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RE: Rain pours down in UK. - 2/21/2014 6:40:36 PM   
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Is it often draught in England? I thought it always rained some during the summer and rained plenty during the winter.


Rainfall varies a lot across the UK. There are some areas, particularly in the Southeast and especially Folkestone & Dover, which are vary dry and more densely populated than average.

Most of the long term scenarios for rainfall I have heard from water companies suggest that average annual conditions may not change much, but hidden in the average is an expected increase in variations from the average, which will make such generalisations less accurate.

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