I used to play Hearts of Iron 3 a lot. However after some time I became so familiar with the game mechanics that it no longer offered a challenge or any satisfying form of war simulation ( e.g. Starting a 1944 scenario as Germany and then defeating Russia by 1945. Come on, seriously? On very hard level? That's just nonsense. Of course the fault was that I had learned to game the system on a tactical, operational and strategic level. That said, however, HOI3 did provide me with many hours of enjoyable fun while I was still at noob and intermediate experience level. No doubt against a human player it would continue to be a great game, but perhaps unfortunately HOI3 does not lend itself well to multiplayer or PBEM.
I heard about WITE and thought "Aha! Perhaps this could fill the sad, blank, destitute, morally corrupt and depressingly void area in my life where the mighty Wehrmacht storm the gates of Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad in one Germanfanboi epic of such magnificent magnitude as to make Ayn Rand look like a communist sympathizer by comparison.
I haven't purchased WITE yet. I was almost sold after reading the commercial reviews, but having read the AARs and other comments in this forum I have been hesitant. Plus I know one must NEVER trust commercial reviews. Nor even semi-commericial/amateur reviews, seeing as many of these are written by innocuously helpful people who, however, do not seriously play the game, basing their review upon insignificant playing time. The best way to see what a game is really like, in my view, is to read the AARs.
Some of my concerns (bear in mind that these are from someone who hasn't actually played the game yet, but are based on what I have read in this forum). ( So some of my remarks may be totally out of whack. Like the cam-belt in my car's engine.)
1) Endless updates. There seems to be a pattern of updates, all of which appear to have offered hope in improving the game (bugs and balancing issues) yet seem to fail to appease a significant number of players. It may well be that those who are not happy with the updates merely tend to be more vocal and outspoken on this forum. Indeed some players to the contrary approve of certain updates. But when I read about how arbitrary rules regarding national morale have not been fixed, inconsistencies with armament production and manpower, the inability of players to alter AI controlled replacement priories, some weird thing about a mysterious 1:1=1:2 rule (or is it the other way around?), etc, it makes me go... "Hmmm, wait a minute...."
2) One week turns for a game of this scale? Wouldn't half week turns be more appropriate? Yeah, I know, thousands of units to move, imaging doubling the "workload" on the players, perhaps that is just too much to reasonably ask. Nonetheless it grates on me a bit to see the mighty surges and ripostes posted in AAR's that seem to strain the borders of credibility at times. I have seen a major complaint regarding what some players call the "Lvov pocket", which may be (imho) merely a dysfunction caused by having one week turns. Players can simply achieve unchallenged thrusts of unrealistic proportions. With that comes my third and final point...
3) House rules. I see many PBEM setups have house rules. I detest them. Violently. However given the state of the game it appears that many players feel the need to introduce house rules ( eg No "Lvov pocket", no paratroops, no bombing HQs, no airfield spam, etc. No. Goddammit! No way. If players feel the need to introduce house rules then there is definitely something rotten in the state of Denmark. If a game is running well then there should be no need for house rules. The player base should not have to resort to house rules to balance perceived deficiencies. That's like having the dentist perform brain surgery.
I really want to play WITE. I want to set those Panzers free. FREE! To advance and frolic upon the steppes of Mother Russia. FREE! To wander as nature and God intended, surrounding and mopping up obstinate Rifle brigades. FREE! TO splash playfully in the oilfields of Grozny and quench their thirst at Maikop.
But I hesitate to commit the time (and money) to WITE for the reasons above. Now I hear there is a WITW in the pipeline and possibly a WITE2 as well?
Quite honestly as it stands I think I would be inclined to wait for those.
(...although the urging to set those Panzers FREE keeps gnawing on me, much like the cat, I should feed it sometime.).
Correct me if I am wrong, but like the OP in this thread, I am in need of some clarification.
Should I wait for this mysterious WITW and deliverance at the hands of a mystical WITE2, if so what would the time frame be?
Perhaps I should sate my underdog urgings on CW2 instead. I would say "DAMN THOSE YANKEES, SIR! WE MARCH ON GETTYSBURG!"
< Message edited by Zantos -- 2/15/2014 7:00:21 AM >