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Rollout Finally - 11/7/2013 2:23:58 PM   
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Here it is November 7th and there's no link to be able to actually purchase World in Flames. A real disappointment after having to wait so long, now we have to wait for Matrix to get it's act together to actually price and sell the game online. I'm not surprised that the game may be too big to download, but there's no excuse to promote a date of sale and not have the product sales site ready to sell this product. Matrix deserves a big fail for not having this game ready for sale when Matrix said it would be.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:29:20 PM   
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They didn't say exactly what time it would be available today, or what time zone did they? As long as it's still the 7th somewhere on the planet, they aren't late.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:29:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Omnius

Here it is November 7th and there's no link to be able to actually purchase World in Flames. A real disappointment after having to wait so long, now we have to wait for Matrix to get it's act together to actually price and sell the game online. I'm not surprised that the game may be too big to download, but there's no excuse to promote a date of sale and not have the product sales site ready to sell this product. Matrix deserves a big fail for not having this game ready for sale when Matrix said it would be.

Omnius


you cant download it ..

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:29:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Omnius

Here it is November 7th and there's no link to be able to actually purchase World in Flames. A real disappointment after having to wait so long, now we have to wait for Matrix to get it's act together to actually price and sell the game online. I'm not surprised that the game may be too big to download, but there's no excuse to promote a date of sale and not have the product sales site ready to sell this product. Matrix deserves a big fail for not having this game ready for sale when Matrix said it would be.

Omnius


If this was the 8th or 9th I could understand. But this is still morning time on the 7th. Typically they release in the early afternoon eastern US time on the date indicated. Patience..it will occur when it occurs and not a moment sooner.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:31:14 PM   
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We have litteraly been waiting decades but it comes down to a few hours of waiting for you Omnius. Very strange person you are.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:32:02 PM   
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you still have to wait for the post man.

so really no effect when you order it

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:32:31 PM   
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I'll respectfully disagree -- I'm pretty sure there have been past releases that became available later in the day, but still on the release date. Erik has stated that WIF can be purchased mid day today. Just a few more hours after such a long wait.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:33:48 PM   
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you can download it, the ONLY buying option will be physical + download (with or without maps). By the looks of another post by Eric I wouldn't be counting on the 1200 EST US time frame either as they seem to be having some QA issues with Plimus that they are still clearing up.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:52:32 PM   
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The game is only available in physical format and includes three Hardbound Full Color reference volumes:

Player's Manual Vol. 1 & Vol 2 (They cover the interface and gameplay of the officially licensed Matrix Games World in Flames computer game forming a complete reference on how to play the game). These are full color hardbound manuals totaling 552 pages, more comprehensive than any game manual we've done in the past!
The Rules as Coded (it follows the structure of the World in Flames as Written, providing a complete reference of the WiF rules as implemented in the officially licensed computer game. Players can also use this as a rule book for tabletop play). This is also a full color hardbound volume totaling 192 pages and is an invaluable reference which gives you the entire combined Rules as Coded at your fingertips for computer or tabletop play.

THE OPTIONAL MAP PACK - A global consistent scale and tabletop-playable WIF map!


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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 2:58:31 PM   
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from Steve in a earlier post about physical only.



quote:

Only a physical copy will be available for purchase. Those who buy the game will be able to download it immediately, with the manuals arriving in the mail later.


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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:10:31 PM   
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You cannot please some people, ever. They go through life primed for disappointment.
High levels of expectation combined with low levels of acceptance is a recipe for
a lifetime of unhappiness. One day a heart attack waiting eternity for a green light will end it all.
Impatience is NOT a virtue. It doesn't even pay minimum wage. People in California are still getting
their morning piece, they haven't even got to Starbucks yet.
Chill out dude or go yell at your kids or maybe kick a dog.
You won't like it when it comes out anyway.


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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:11:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Omnius

Matrix deserves a big fail for not having this game ready for sale when Matrix said it would be.

Omnius



We all want it as badly as you do. Just because it isn't ready when you think it should be doesn't mean it's a big fail. Time zones man.. time zones..


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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:12:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: captskillet

from Steve in a earlier post about physical only.



quote:

Only a physical copy will be available for purchase. Those who buy the game will be able to download it immediately, with the manuals arriving in the mail later.



we will get the answer soon

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:25:08 PM   
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but does not matter, even if it available for down load. you will not get it today.

when I downloaded it, it to me a hour.

that was with a free server..

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:28:45 PM   
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You have some great expectations for MWIF I gather. I would love for Matrixgames server to become overloaded because of WiF-fans downloading.

I would gladly wait until next morning if that were the case.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:35:47 PM   
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Perhaps then they should not put it up on the buy board yet.(or better yet just take it off until it is able to be purchased) I don't mind the wait, but perhaps be professional about it. Would much rather see nothing up until its good to go. Really not asking to much. But that's just me.
Maybe they are still trying to figure out the final price.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:40:05 PM   
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it is probably just the technical way how to set up a product and it will take a time to synchronize with all related Systems - fix the Errors because someone do wrong paste & copy


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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:43:03 PM   
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Maybe they havin a wee booze up for the launch ...
Before the dust up begins eh'

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 3:45:40 PM   
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Perhaps then they should not put it up on the buy board yet.(or better yet just take it off until it is able to be purchased) I don't mind the wait, but perhaps be professional about it. Would much rather see nothing up until its good to go. Really not asking to much. But that's just me.
Maybe they are still trying to figure out the final price.


The game description has been up for quite a while. It did not just pop up today. It is called marketing. They want people to know the game is about to be released and what you will get with it.

If they had NOT put this page up over a month ago, then people would be complaining about why there was no information about the game and what you would be getting. So it it obvious that no matter what Matrix did, someone would have an issue .

This is why I never want to work in retail (and hope I never do )

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 4:21:15 PM   
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but does not matter, even if it available for down load. you will not get it today.

when I downloaded it, it to me a hour.

that was with a free server..

Customers will be able to download the game, with the manuals (and maps) arriving in the mail later.

Download times vary greatly.

I upgraded my modem last week (it was 9 years old) and cut the download time from 2 hours 15 minutes to 1 hour 15 minutes. I've since upgraded my DSL from 7 Mbps (theoretical maximum) to 15 Mbps. I haven't tested an actual download using the upgraded DSL, but WWW.SpeedTest.net shows an improvement from 4.8 Mbps (last week) to 10.5 Mbps (yesterday). Those numbers vary throughout the day for a whole lot of reasons, but I expect my download time for the full MWIF is now in the 30-35 minute range. That is what has been reported by some of the beta testers too.

Matrix increased their bandwidth recently (within the last month?), with the express purpose of making downloads faster. But if you have an older antiquated system on the receiving end (like I did), you will need to be patient.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 5:11:46 PM   
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Does the download include the PDF manuals?

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 5:21:13 PM   
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Yes. Everything in the manuals is in a pdf.

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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 5:26:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Omnius

Here it is November 7th and there's no link to be able to actually purchase World in Flames. A real disappointment after having to wait so long, now we have to wait for Matrix to get it's act together to actually price and sell the game online. I'm not surprised that the game may be too big to download, but there's no excuse to promote a date of sale and not have the product sales site ready to sell this product. Matrix deserves a big fail for not having this game ready for sale when Matrix said it would be.

Omnius


Well, the big fail is that you do not or can not understand that last minute glitches occur in the physical world.



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RE: Disappointing Rollout - 11/7/2013 6:01:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Numdydar


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dorb

Perhaps then they should not put it up on the buy board yet.(or better yet just take it off until it is able to be purchased) I don't mind the wait, but perhaps be professional about it. Would much rather see nothing up until its good to go. Really not asking to much. But that's just me.
Maybe they are still trying to figure out the final price.


The game description has been up for quite a while. It did not just pop up today. It is called marketing. They want people to know the game is about to be released and what you will get with it.

If they had NOT put this page up over a month ago, then people would be complaining about why there was no information about the game and what you would be getting. So it it obvious that no matter what Matrix did, someone would have an issue .

This is why I never want to work in retail (and hope I never do )


My bad - guess I never notice the buy button and it being on the front page under new release all these weeks.
I am sorry I expected more from a company for a major launch. - I do now see they finally issued a statement as to what is going on so we the customer now understand the delay. I thank them for this.
Now lets get the game and take it out on each other on the battlefield.

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Successful Order and Download - 11/7/2013 7:59:55 PM   
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I tried again about 4 hours later and indeed I was able to successfully order the boxed version and download the game. The download took an hour, as stated in the download advice. As the saying goes, better late than never. Thanks for getting the game ready for sale on the day promised, even if not quite as early as I would have liked. Sorry for the hasty beef earlier, am now a happy camper. Now the World in Flames War can begin.

Advice for Plimus: Under the "Important" download instructions please correct "we advice" to we advise".

I decided to pass on the $75 map set, didn't take my car out of the garage to play the board game so no reason to buy the new map set since I'll never use it. The whole reason for waiting so long for the computer version was to be able to play it without having to use my whole garage to set it up.

Omnius

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