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RE: Turn 59-60: 30th July 1942 - 12th August 1942 - 1/10/2015 5:27:19 AM   
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Amazing AAR.

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Turn 61-62: 13th August 1942 - 26th August 1942 - 1/13/2015 7:07:16 AM   
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Turn 61-62: 13th August 1942 - 26th August 1942

Following the massive Soviet retreat in the Tula - Tambov sector the Germans starting on 13th August began their march north towards the Pronya river, encircling and destroying three straggling Soviet divisions in the process. With the rain period of October not far away, von Kluge's last move for the summer offensive called for an encirclement of the Soviet forces between Pronya and Oka, thereby gaining a solid defensive line along the Oka river and the city of Ryazan. Other suggestions like striking at the Soviet troops along the Khoper were discarded since von Kluge ruled out the feasibility of redeploying the German mobile forces, catching up to the Soviet units and then destroying them prior to the onset of the rasputitsa.

This operation, codenamed Fridericus, was to be carried by the armoured forces of 2nd, 3rd and 4th Panzer Army, supported by large parts of 2nd and 4th Army. Directly involved in the offensive operations were 15 panzer divisions, 11 motorised divisions and 30 infantry divisions. 4th Panzer Army with XXXXI. PzK and XXXXVIII. PzK was to attack eastward against Serebryanye Prude, while 2nd and 3rd Panzer Army struck north over the Pronya to complete the encirclement. The Luftwaffe supported the offensive with Luftflotte 2's II. Fliegerkorps and Luftflotte 4's V. Fliegerkorps. II. Fliegerkorps possessed 329 aircraft, among them the newest fighters the Luftwaffe had to offer with 84 Bf 109 G-2 and 74 FW 190A, while von Greim's V. Fliegerkorps consisted of 691 combat aircraft. The Luftwaffe commanders expected this to give them clear aerial superiorty over the Ryazan sector.


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Turn 63-64: 27th August 1942 - 9th September 1942 - 1/13/2015 9:44:43 AM   
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Turn 63-64: 27th August 1942 - 9th September 1942

The last large-scale offensive operation of the Ostheer of Summer 1942, Unternehmen Fridericus, was launched in the morning of 27th August 1942 with numerous Luftwaffe air strikes against the Soviet frontline units. When the ground operations began a few hours later, the Germans had to discover, that the Red Army had pulled back several units in anticipation of the German onslaught. Still, the Germans rolled forward undeterred and on 29th August the elite LIX. AK of Walter Model broke through the Soviet defenses behind the Pronya. Behind the the panzers of Guderian and von Manstein rolled through the gap towards Ryazan. One day later XXXXVII. PzK fought its way through and stood at the gates of the city at the Oka. With 2nd Panzer Army's divisions covering the right flank, von Manstein's divisions swung northwest towards Serebryanye Prudy, bypassing Ryazan to the west. In the meantime the offensive arm built around 4th Panzer Army, supported by Weiss' LIII. AK, broke through the Soviet 10th Army's lines south of Kashira and headed towards 3rd Panzer Army, brushing aside resistance of 3rd Shock Army and 32nd Army. On 1st September the link-up between Hoth and von Manstein's forces was complete, trapping eight rifle divisions between them and the Pronya. STAVKA, realising that it would be impossible to bail the units out, decided to sacrifice them and pull the mass of the Soviet units behind the mighty Oka, leaving only Ryazan as a bridgehead.



After resting the forward divisions for three days, with the Mikhailov pocket being cleared by the units of 4th Army's I. and IX. AK, the Germans regrouped to prepare the assault on Ryazan, while pushing forward to the Oka. Ryazan was well defended by the 1st Shock Army with two rifle corps and a rifle division. However, the German High Command had utmost faith into the abilities of Walter Model and his crack troops who had already captured Leningrad in 1941 and Sevastopol in March 1942. For the Ryazan operation the Germans assigned Model 12 divisions with 191.000 men, 1.988 guns and mortars and 1.230 AFVs. It was the largest set-piece battle the Wehrmacht had fought to that date. On 4th September the Luftwaffe opened the assault with a massive bombardment that turned the city into rubble and units of LIX. AK entered the city right after. Despite clawing themselves into the houses and ruins of the city, the Soviet defenders steadily lost group and moreover also couldn't count on reinforcement from the other side of the Oka, since the Luftwaffe heavily interdicted the area. On 7th September the Germans reached the Oka and split the Soviet defenders, who were then overwhelmed by the sheer number of German soldiers that kept coming at them. On 9th September the last of them either surrendered or routed over the river, giving 3rd Panzer Army total control over the city.



While the German offensive raged in the centre, STAVKA took the opportunity to mass units in the Vyshny Volochek sector for a limited offensive against 18th Army's L. AK. When the Soviets attacked on 28th August they achieved total surprise, since sloppy reconnaissance had failed to pick up the Soviet build-up. Under attack by three guards rifle corps and subjected to heavy artillery fire, 86th Infantry Division was forced to pull back on 1st September and the Soviets used the gap that was created south of the Shlina river to push a tank corps through. In addition the Red Army also launched an airborne operation to create chaos in the German rear, successfully putting three airborne brigades on the ground. However, not everything went smoothly for the Soviets as 55th Army's attack agaisnt 126th Infantry Division was repelled, despite the use of two guards rifle corps.



Despite the initial shock, the high command of Army Group North was quick to react and on 3rd September two divisions of its reserve arrived to deal with the airborne units and help stabilise the front of L. AK afterwards. In the northern part 5th Mountain Division came down from Tikhvin, while the landings at Firovo were dealt with by 101st Jäger Division originally stationed in Rzhev. Additionally XXXX. PzK marched northwards from their positions behind the front of 9th Army and launched a swift counterattack against 9th Tank Corps on 5th September. With the tank corps routed a day later, the lines of L. AK was secure again. However, OKH wasn't content with just sealing the breakthrough and on 2nd September von Kluge ordered Hoth's 4th Panzer Army to immediately pull out Weiss' XXVII. AK and Kempf's XXXXVIII. PzK (which included two of the finest German panzer divisions with the 1st and 11th, as well as Division Großdeutschland) and rail them north. Von Kluge's aim was to hammer the Soviet guards rifle corps with the elite German formations and capture the eastern bank of the Msta with its good defensive terrain and the city of Vyzhny Volochek. But before these units arrived at the front, STAVKA had already decided to give up the operation and pulled back to the initial positions, removing the guards rifle corps from the frontline.



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RE: Turn 63-64: 27th August 1942 - 9th September 1942 - 1/13/2015 1:04:13 PM   
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turned the city into rubble


Almost makes you wonder whether Ryazan was worth taking after all that.

Great account of a good, well-planned and well-executed operation.

I'm anxious to see what happens after the mud season. Good luck!

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RE: Turn 63-64: 27th August 1942 - 9th September 1942 - 1/13/2015 1:33:08 PM   
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It's late '42 and advancing 50 miles on a 100 mile wide front is lauded as a great success. Compare that with the advances of the previous summer

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RE: Turn 63-64: 27th August 1942 - 9th September 1942 - 1/13/2015 1:39:06 PM   
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It's late '42 and advancing 50 miles on a 100 mile wide front is lauded as a great success. Compare that with the advances of the previous summer

Moreover, using close to 60 divisions nonetheless. With that force in 1941 I could've moved the lines of an entire army group some 150 miles. Still better than not being able to do any offensive action though (I'm looking at you 1943-45).

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RE: Turn 63-64: 27th August 1942 - 9th September 1942 - 1/13/2015 1:42:10 PM   
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"at me 1943-44" You haven't seen 1945 yet, with my beautiful Breslau-Berlin operation (for which I am to blame, and I am very sorry for that, but I want to return to the AAR when 1.08 will be finished).

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RE: Turn 63-64: 27th August 1942 - 9th September 1942 - 1/13/2015 3:31:44 PM   
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It's late '42 and advancing 50 miles on a 100 mile wide front is lauded as a great success. Compare that with the advances of the previous summer


Point conceded, but better that than a long advance with weak flanks guarded by Hungarians and Rumanians ...

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Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 1/15/2015 8:49:14 AM   
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Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942

After the conclusion of the Ryazan battle the plains of Central Russia that saw massive combat in the previous two months finally came to a rest. OKH decided to switch over to the defensive, but not after some heated debates with commanders of Army Group Centre. Especially the commanding general of 4th Army, Georg von Sodenstern, was very vocal about continuing the push over the Oka to threaten Moscow from the south. And indeed, the relative strength of the German forces along the Oka compared to the Red Army forces made a successful crossing possible, however, von Kluge saw no benefit in doing so. In a meeting with Army Group Centre's commanders on 4th September, after XXVII. AK and XXXXVIII. PzK had already left for the north, von Kluge made his view very clear: Given the depth of the Soviet defenses a German offensive would in all likelihood only reach Ramenskoe at best before the onset of the rasputitsa, still putting them about 40 miles short of Moscow. On the other hand the massive force committment that would be necessary for that operation would leave other sectors of the front dangerously undermanned in terms of operational reserves. The Msta battle that was raging showed it clearly that the Red Army was capable of massing enough forces to push through infantry-only held lines.

With this matter settled, the Germans turned their attention to Army Group North's counterattack. Following the Soviet retreat 18th Army's staff hastily presented an alternative to the operation that called for a frontal assault against Vyzhny Volochek and the Msta line. With the Soviet rifle corps taken out von Küchler suggested to send XXVII. AK and XXXXVIII. PzK over the Tveritsa to maneuver into the rear of the Soviet divisions at Vyzhny Volochek. That way it would be possible to threaten the Soviets with encirclement, forcing them to either give up their positions, or risk a pocket.

After rerouting the attack divisions the German offensive began on 13th September with XXVII. AK smashing a hole into the Soviet defenses which was quickly exploited by the armoured forces. With Division Großdeutschland and 1st Panzer Division heading the charge the bridgehead was quickly expanded to 30 miles in length and 20 miles in depth
By 15th September Spirovo was in German hands and Vyzhny Volochek only 10 miles away. The Soviets, however, quickly halted the withdrawal of their elite guards and in a counterattack threw 25th Motorised Division back.



With the guards rifle corps back in the frontline a breakthrough from the south seemed impossible, so von Küchler decided on 17th September to pull the units out of the Tveritsa bridgehead and send them north again to the Msta, where L. AK launched a first attack against the Soviet 27th Army and crossed the river 20 miles north of Vyzhny Volochek. When the divisions of XXVII. AK and XXXXVIII. PzK arrived at the Msta on 19th September they wasted no time in assaulting Vyzhny Volochek head-on. Against the three divisions of 11th Army holding the city the Germans sent in the entire XXXXVIII. PzK along with two infantry divisions of XXVII. AK, totalling over 124.000 men and 1.400 guns and mortars. Against this overwhelming numerical superiority, not to mention the quality of those crack German troops, the Soviets quickly folded and by 23rd September the last resistance in the city died down.


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RE: Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 1/16/2015 6:44:57 PM   
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OKH decided to switch over to the defensive...


For the rest of the war? So the operation at Ryazan was the last dance?

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RE: Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 1/16/2015 7:04:53 PM   
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If we are talking about offensives on a strategic scale, yes indeed Ryazan marked the end. Future offensives will have the character of counterattacks designed to either restore the frontline or destroy exposed Red Army units. Although that isn't what is broadcasted to the masses. The official propaganda line is, the Wehrmacht is only resting up for a war-deciding offensive in 1943 that will shatter the Red Army.

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RE: Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 1/16/2015 7:31:23 PM   
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The official propaganda line is, the Wehrmacht is only resting up for a war-deciding offensive in 1943 that will shatter the Red Army.


No doubt, under the name Zitadelle. Good luck as switch over to (mostly) defensive.

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RE: Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 1/19/2015 2:19:22 AM   
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If we are talking about offensives on a strategic scale, yes indeed Ryazan marked the end. Future offensives will have the character of counterattacks designed to either restore the frontline or destroy exposed Red Army units. Although that isn't what is broadcasted to the masses. The official propaganda line is, the Wehrmacht is only resting up for a war-deciding offensive in 1943 that will shatter the Red Army.



Son, I am dissapoint

How's your morale in September 1942? Does it begin to go down a bit now or still is up?

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RE: Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 2/5/2015 8:55:25 AM   
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Fatigue/ losses might reduce the printed CV a bit, but looking at the screenshot ,the infantry is in prety bad shape .

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RE: Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 2/5/2015 4:00:11 PM   
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There is no real morale loss in 1942. What wrecked the morale of the infantry divisions was the automatic morale loss of the blizzard. In June 1941 about 2/3 of the German infantry is at or over 75 morale. After the blizzard barely 20% surpass that line and it hasn't really changed since then. The average morale is probably about 71/72. At 100% TOE that would be around 9 CV, but to save manpower I'm keeping the frontline divisions below 75 morale at 85% TOE. If I try to get every single division to 100% I would most likely run out of manpower.

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RE: Turn 65-66: 10th September 1942 - 23rd September 1942 - 2/6/2015 6:58:01 AM   
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the fact that you are asking very little of the axis alies , does not help but
if you are wiling to reconsider

you can aford 95% toe for every german division, and 100% for divisions with morale above 78.

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