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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 6:17:41 AM   
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#187 Buccaneer S.2A's operator is Royal Navy and Buccaneer S.2 is missing.

S.2 -> RN
S.2A -> RAF

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/buccaneer/history.php

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 6:28:34 AM   
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#2924 - Sea King HAR.3's operator should be Royal Air Force instead of Royal Navy.

#2926 - Sea King HC.4's operator should be Royal Navy instead of Royal Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Sea_King

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 7:02:01 AM   
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Should be River class frigate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River-class_frigate




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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 7:18:37 AM   
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Hi yes and no she was a River Class Frigate and then converted as an Amphib Headquarters and given that NATO designation
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Should be River class frigate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River-class_frigate





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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 7:23:03 AM   
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Fixed in next build
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Question:
Many minesweepers doesn't have "MCM Equip" button available. Is it WAD?

Ex. Auk class, Admirable class, Adjutant class, Agile class, Acme class


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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 12:20:27 PM   
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RB-57D's max altitude is 40000ft, same as previous models.
But it was designed for high-altitude reconnaissance mission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_RB-57D_Canberra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_RB-57F_Canberra

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 12:24:54 PM   
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RB-57D's max altitude is 40000ft, same as previous models.
But it was designed for high-altitude reconnaissance mission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_RB-57D_Canberra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_RB-57F_Canberra


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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 7:30:49 PM   
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Not sure if anyone requested this yet for the CW database...

Auk-class minesweeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auk_class_minesweeper


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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 8:36:05 PM   
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#187 Buccaneer S.2A's operator is Royal Navy and Buccaneer S.2 is missing.

S.2 -> RN
S.2A -> RAF

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/buccaneer/history.php




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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 8:42:05 PM   
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Not sure if anyone requested this yet for the CW database...

Auk-class minesweeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auk_class_minesweeper





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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/27/2013 8:42:25 PM   
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RB-57D's max altitude is 40000ft, same as previous models.
But it was designed for high-altitude reconnaissance mission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_RB-57D_Canberra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_RB-57F_Canberra



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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/28/2013 2:20:46 AM   
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Aloha,

There are two scenarios I would like to start working on. These are Paracels (Xisha) 1974 - this pits four Republic of Vietnamese ships versus 4-6 PLA Navy ships. All PLA Navy ships are in the database, but there was one EDSALL class (DE) and two BARNETGAT class small seapolane tenders (recast as patrol craft) in the fight. The other battle I am considering is the 06 Aug 1965 Battle of Shantou, where two ROCN subchasers were sunk by the PLA Navy. They were trying to land agent provocatuers to take advantage of the chaos in the PRC as the Cultural Revolution gathered steam. Didn't work out so well. This would be a good cat and mouse scenario with the KMT trying to sneak in at night to the coast and the PLAN trying to guess where they will land. The ships I would for both need are:

RVN Edsall DE (3 x 3"/50 guns)•
2 × 40 mm AA guns (1 × 2)
• 8 × 20 mm AA guns (8 × 1)
• 3 × 21 in (530 mm) torpedo tubes (1 × 3) (U.S. advisors did not provide torps)
• 8 × depth charge projectors
• 1 × depth charge projector (hedgehog)
• 2 × depth charge tracks


RVN Barnegat PF (1 X 5"/38; 2 x 81mm mortars)

TWN/ROCN PC-461 class (290 tons)
Armament: 1 3"/50, 1 40mm, 4 20mm, depth charges, hedgehog (estimate)

I've got some stats (not sure how reliable they are)

Thanks,

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/28/2013 2:43:52 AM   
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>>06 Aug 1965 Battle of Shantou, where two ROCN subchasers were sunk by the PLA Navy.

Two ships are
PCE-45 Chien Men (ex-AM-387 Toucan, Auk class)
PC-118 Chang Chiang (ex-PC-1232, PC-461 Class)


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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/28/2013 2:39:47 PM   
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Canadian CP-107 mk 2: 20 built, carried the ASV-21 radar like the Nimrod MR.1 in CWDB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CP-107_Argus

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/28/2013 2:42:57 PM   
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#187 Buccaneer S.2A's operator is Royal Navy and Buccaneer S.2 is missing.

S.2 -> RN
S.2A -> RAF

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/buccaneer/history.php




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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/28/2013 2:43:37 PM   
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Platform added
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ORIGINAL: Mgellis

Not sure if anyone requested this yet for the CW database...

Auk-class minesweeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auk_class_minesweeper





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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/29/2013 3:28:28 AM   
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I have a few requests I'm making a group of 1950s scenarios where WWIII started right after WWII and soviet naval aviation actually took off! One problem with soviet naval aviation is that its very, very weak in the 1950s and cannot stray more than 50 nautical miles from LBA for lack of air defense. I have a few requests which will make a "WWIII right after WWII with carrier battles" possible!



Could I get an "Internal Guns" loadout for the Tu-91 Boot Strike (id = 572) with an appropriate range?




Also the Yak-25's length according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-25 is 15.67 meters which puts it's size as a Medium Aircraft. This affects ids 174, 177, and 2377. This will allow the Yak-25 to possibly be based off of carriers.





Plus the Yak-25M (id: 177) has a RP-6 Sokol (Falcon) air search radar with a 20 mile range. Source: http://www.exacteditions.com/read/aeroplane/june-2009-5197/40/3/ plus wikipedia mentions the RP-6 Sokol radar as well.

RP-6 might also have a 'look down' capability.
http://www.kamov.net/russian-aircraft/yakovlev-yak-25m/

Image of RP-6: http://coldwar.forumcommunity.net/?t=50771571
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18019.5;wap2 ""Scan Three" - X band, 9.3-9.4GHz, 3 modes detected. very high PRF (Yak-25) [RP-6 Sokol]
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This is a long shot but I guess it can't hurt to ask would it be possible to get a theoretical Yak-25 (id 174) and Yak-25M (id 177) to be Carrier Capable?

I have a few reasons to think that the Yak-25 and Yak-25M might have been carrier capable if Stalin stuck around to demand a Soviet carrier aviation fighter.
First off I'm going to use the Tu-91 as a baseline; as it actually was a prototype soviet carrier capable aircraft.
Tu-91:
Max. takeoff weight: 14,400 kg (31,746 lb)
Wing area: 47.5 m² (511 ft²)
(14 400 kg) / (47.5 (m^2)) = 303.157895 kg / m2
Thus a wing loading of 303kg/m2.

Yak-25:
Loaded weight: 8,675 kg (19,125 lb)
Wing area: 28.94 m² (311.51 ft²)
Wing loading at loaded weight: (8675 kg) / (28.94 (m^2)) = 299.75812 kg / m2

Max. takeoff weight: 9,450 kg (29,760 lb)
Wing loading at max takeoff weight: (9450 kg) / (28.94 (m^2)) = 326.537664 kg / m2

So approximately the same wing loading, and a lighter aircraft overall.

Yak-28R Brewer D (id 151) is carrier capable but isn't introduced until 1967; and dominates the 1950s airspace if I use it.





In conclusion between the wing loading and Yakovlev producing a carrier capable aircraft a decade later I'd like to request
the following:
  • Tu-91 Boot Strike getting an internal guns loadout with appropriate range.
  • Yak-25M being given an additional air search sensor
  • Yak-25 and Yak-25M being made Medium Aircraft
  • Yak-25 and Yak-25M being made carrier capable


    The introduction of the Yak-25 and Yak-25M as a theoretical carrier capable aircraft will make soviet carrier naval aviation able to go toe-to-toe with American carrier naval aviation in the 1950s.

    I have to say I absolutely love the CWDB! It covers a period in time that not many naval combat simulations cover! I also think if WWIII was going to kick off it would have happened in the 1950s or early 1960s.



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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/29/2013 9:55:18 AM   
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    Hi Baloogan
    no problems on your requests, the DB is with Rag at the moment but your requests have been noted as soon as I get it back I will to the platforms and mark them down as proposed aircraft in the comments box on the platform

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/29/2013 9:58:03 AM   
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    Hi Baloogan

    I can update the proposed Soviet Carriers also if you interested?

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/29/2013 11:42:07 AM   
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    Hi Sirius,

    Thanks so much for OKing my requests I was worried I was overstepping a little.

    I think CWDB already has 3 proposed soviet carriers, AKR Orlitsa (Ex Graf Zeppilin), AKR Project 71 CV, AKR Project 72 CV. I just took a quick glance at them and they seem just about 100%. If there is anything amiss with these platforms I'm very interested in any updates that you might have in mind!

    One thing that would be cool would be UNREP capability! For the 3 carriers (ids 503, 310, 315) could I get "Refuel From Starboard x1 (In)" and "Replenish From Port x 1 (In)"?

    To replenish this fictional blue-water Soviet Navy I might need a Fleet Oiler and an Ammunition Ship, but for that I can just steal another nation's ships.

    Thanks!

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/29/2013 1:20:28 PM   
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    Yak-25 Yak-25M and Yak-25K (Flashlight A )
    Engines:Mikulin RD-5A not RD-9
    Armament Yak-25 Yak-25M : Two N-37L cannons 50rpg - 100 rpg in overload Configuration
    No bombs or unguided rockets and no guided AAMs (Interceptor aircraft not a fighterbomber)
    Armament Yak-25K :four K-5 (RS-1U) (Nato code name AA-1 Alkali) No guns
    Radar:Yak-25 RP-1D (Detection range 12 km 7,5 miles track range 2km 1.25miles)
    Yak-25M RP-6 Sokol limited lock-down capability (target at 300 meters)
    (Detection range 30km 16,2nm : (70km 43,5miles 16sq m target))
    Track 30km 18,6 miles 16sq m target
    Typical service rating night and bad weather medium altitude detection :15km 8,1 nm :lock-on 5km 2,7 nm
    low level detection 8km 4,3 nm lock-on 3 km 1,6 nm
    Yak-25K RP-1U (same as MiG-17PF) Seach range 7.5km 4nm lock on 4.5km 2.4nm
    Performance Yak-25:
    Max speed- 708mph 616kts at 13123ft - 684mph 594kts at 16404ft -(CWDB 990kts)
    Initial climb 9840ft/min - time to hight 2,3 min to 16404ft (avg. 7132ft/min). 6.4min to 32808ft (avg.5126ft/min)
    Service ceiling 45600ft
    Weight empty 6210kg normal loaded 9220kg
    Takeoff run 775 meters landing run 825 meters normal to/weight
    Range: Clean 1305 miles 1134 nm - 1678 miles 1459 nm with ext. tank
    Fuel internal: 3445 l. 758 imp gal (6063lbs 2750 kg) one 151 imp gal belly tank
    Performance Yak-25M:
    Max speed: 682mph 593kts at 9840ft
    Initial climb 8861ft/min time to hight 2,8 min to 16404ft (avg. 5716t/min) 7.9min to 32808ft (avg.4153ft/min)
    Weight empty 6410kg max loaded 10045kg
    Range: Clean 1249 miles 1086 nm - 1591 miles 1383 nm with ext. tank
    Takeoff run 800 meters landing run 850 meters normal
    Fuel internal: 3445 l. 758 imp gal (5952lbs 2700 kg) one 151 imp gal 540 kg 1190lbs conformal aux.tank
    Performance Yak-25K:max speed at 16404ft 621mph 540kts Build in small numbers - less than 40.Hardly a service aircraft (Testbeds)
    All versions no RWR and not designed for Carrier ops.- Impossible for this aircraft to land on a carrier
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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/29/2013 4:35:31 PM   
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    Add Boom refueling for F-105. F-105s were able to be refueled by both boom or probe-drogue.

    Look at the pictures on the right.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling#Compatibility_issues

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/29/2013 9:14:56 PM   
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    When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/30/2013 3:10:34 PM   
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    Independence class CVL has 17 medium A/C space in current database.
    It is not enough to load her typical A/C complement.
    24x F6F + 9x TBM (24/2 + 9 = 21)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence-class_aircraft_carrier

    French navy's Arromanches (Colossus class CVL) has 11 medium A/C space currently.
    Her A/C complement in Suez Crisis:
    14x F4U + 10x TBM + 2x HUP-2 (14/2 + 10 + 2 = 19 )
    http://www.acig.info/CMS/?option=com_content&task=view&id=205&Itemid=47

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/30/2013 3:39:22 PM   
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    Avenger of Royal Navy has agility 3.
    Other TBM in CWDB has 2.

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/30/2013 9:55:27 PM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Temple

    When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks


    Along these lines, a few ideas...

    Douglas DC-6
    Number built: 704
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-6
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_dc6_en.php
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Douglas-DC-6%20.html
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=190
    http://www.brinkley.cc/AC/dc6f.htm

    Douglas DC-4
    Number built: 80 DC-4 and 1,163 C-54/R5D
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-4
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=189
    http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=110
    http://www.boeing.com/boeing/history/mdc/dc-4.page
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Douglas-DC-4.html

    Douglas DC-8
    Number built: 556
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-8
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=192
    http://www.dc-8.co.uk/specs.htm
    http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=244
    http://ialcargo.com/specs/dc8.pdf
    http://www.brinkley.cc/AC/dc873f.htm

    Lockheed Constellation
    Number built: 856
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Lockheed-Constellation.html
    http://www.historynet.com/the-legendary-lockheed-constellation.htm
    http://www.aviation-history.com/lockheed/1049.html
    http://www.ruudleeuw.com/connie-text.htm
    http://www.mcchord.org/magazine/LockheedConstellation.pdf
    http://www.what2fly.com/manufacturer/lockheed/constellation_l749.php

    Vickers Viscount
    Number built: 445
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Viscount
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=380
    http://www.vickersviscount.net/Pages_Technical/700%20Series%20Specification%20Performance%20Weights%20and%20Dimensions.aspx
    http://www.vickersviscount.net/Pages_Technical/700%20Series%20Specification%20Content.aspx
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_viscount_en.php
    http://www.eastmidlandsairport.com/emaweb.nsf/content/AeroparkAircraftonDisplay/$File/viscount.pdf

    De Havilland Comet
    Number built: 114 (including prototypes)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_dh106_en.php
    http://www.canadianwings.com/Aircraft/aircraftDetail.php?COMET-113
    http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/mundo/airliner/comet.htm

    Antonov An-2
    Number built: 18,000+ (!)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2
    http://www.an2flyers.org/an2specs.html
    http://www.sibwings.com/an2/manual.pdf
    http://www.classicwings-bavaria.com/html/biplane.php

    Tupolev Tu-104
    Number built: 201
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-104
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_tu104_en.php
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/tu-104.htm
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/tu-104-specs.htm
    http://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Tupolev-104/specs

    Tupolev Tu-134
    Number built: 852 (850 + 2 prototypes)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu-134
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Tu-134.html
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_tu134_en.php
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/tu-134.htm
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=375


    I hope this helps.


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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/30/2013 9:58:43 PM   
    .Sirius


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    Hi will add and update all your comments for the next DB Builld
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Mgellis


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Temple

    When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks


    Along these lines, a few ideas...

    Douglas DC-6
    Number built: 704
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-6
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_dc6_en.php
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Douglas-DC-6%20.html
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=190
    http://www.brinkley.cc/AC/dc6f.htm

    Douglas DC-4
    Number built: 80 DC-4 and 1,163 C-54/R5D
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-4
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=189
    http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=110
    http://www.boeing.com/boeing/history/mdc/dc-4.page
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Douglas-DC-4.html

    Douglas DC-8
    Number built: 556
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-8
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=192
    http://www.dc-8.co.uk/specs.htm
    http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=244
    http://ialcargo.com/specs/dc8.pdf
    http://www.brinkley.cc/AC/dc873f.htm

    Lockheed Constellation
    Number built: 856
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Lockheed-Constellation.html
    http://www.historynet.com/the-legendary-lockheed-constellation.htm
    http://www.aviation-history.com/lockheed/1049.html
    http://www.ruudleeuw.com/connie-text.htm
    http://www.mcchord.org/magazine/LockheedConstellation.pdf
    http://www.what2fly.com/manufacturer/lockheed/constellation_l749.php

    Vickers Viscount
    Number built: 445
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Viscount
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=380
    http://www.vickersviscount.net/Pages_Technical/700%20Series%20Specification%20Performance%20Weights%20and%20Dimensions.aspx
    http://www.vickersviscount.net/Pages_Technical/700%20Series%20Specification%20Content.aspx
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_viscount_en.php
    http://www.eastmidlandsairport.com/emaweb.nsf/content/AeroparkAircraftonDisplay/$File/viscount.pdf

    De Havilland Comet
    Number built: 114 (including prototypes)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_dh106_en.php
    http://www.canadianwings.com/Aircraft/aircraftDetail.php?COMET-113
    http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/mundo/airliner/comet.htm

    Antonov An-2
    Number built: 18,000+ (!)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2
    http://www.an2flyers.org/an2specs.html
    http://www.sibwings.com/an2/manual.pdf
    http://www.classicwings-bavaria.com/html/biplane.php

    Tupolev Tu-104
    Number built: 201
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-104
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_tu104_en.php
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/tu-104.htm
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/tu-104-specs.htm
    http://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Tupolev-104/specs

    Tupolev Tu-134
    Number built: 852 (850 + 2 prototypes)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu-134
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Tu-134.html
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_tu134_en.php
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/tu-134.htm
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=375


    I hope this helps.





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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/30/2013 11:22:21 PM   
    Mgellis


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Temple

    When building my 1950 scenario, I noticed a lack of civilian and commercial aircraft to add. Only a neutral DC-3 was available. It's a low priority of course, but could we have a few more civilian and commercial prop planes for 1946-? Preferably the bigger ones, like DC-4s. Thanks


    And a few more...

    Yakovlev Yak-40
    Number built: 1,011
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-40
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=386
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_yak40_en.php

    de Havilland Canada DHC-4 Caribou
    Number built: 307
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-4_Caribou
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=180
    http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=164
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_dhc4_en.php
    http://www.aviastar.org/air/canada/dehavilland_caribou.php

    de Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter
    Number built: 850+
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-6_Twin_Otter
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=181
    http://www.719skvadron.no/dhc6/dhc6-spec.htm
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Twin-Otter.html

    Piper PA-31 Navajo
    Number built: 3942
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-31_Navajo
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=311
    https://www.aopa.org/Pilot-Resources/Aircraft-Ownership/Aircraft-Fact-Sheets/Piper-Navajo-Chieftain.aspx

    de Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver
    Number built: 1,657
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHC-2
    http://www.dhc-2.com/Tech_Specs.html
    http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/dehavilland/6.htm
    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Beaver.html

    de Havilland Dove
    Number built: 542
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Dove
    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_dh104_en.php
    http://www.natureandtech.com/?cat=78
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=184

    Convair CV-240
    Number built: 1,181 (all versions)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_CV-240_family
    http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/convair-240.php
    http://www.prop-liners.com/c240tech.htm
    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=169

    I hope this helps.


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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/31/2013 2:40:17 PM   
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    Is this thread a good place for CWDB errors? Loadout for Lincoln B.30 RAF 2000lb LDGP, RAF 250lb LDGP includes RAF 500lb LDGP not RAF 250lb LDGP.

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 10/31/2013 3:38:17 PM   
    .Sirius


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    Noted
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Baloogan

    Is this thread a good place for CWDB errors? Loadout for Lincoln B.30 RAF 2000lb LDGP, RAF 250lb LDGP includes RAF 500lb LDGP not RAF 250lb LDGP.



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