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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/10/2018 11:37:29 AM   
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All done with some amendments, so of the loadouts look abit heavy for a P-2 ie EIGHT ASW Torpedos


Please allow me to persuade you!

In both the P2V-4's SAC sheet and the P2V-5's SAC sheet the maximum loadout is listed as being 12000lbs of ordnance. In the former, the maximum torpedo loadout is described as being 4 1200lbs torpedoes (the Mk.34 being the standard issue torpedo at that time, the Mk.41 was an experimental torpedo that did not reach service).

Also, if you check out this NATOPS Manual of the SP-2H, there is a series of tables from pages 197 to 201 detailing the names, weights, and maximum carrying capacity of the SP-2H both internally and externally. Not only could the SP-2H carry 8 internal Mk.43/44 torpedoes, but it could carry an additional 4 torpedoes of the same class under its wings. Since the Mk.43 and Mk.44 weigh at most 260lbs and 435lbs, respectively, a full "f*ck you, submarines" loadout of 12 torpedoes would weigh 3120lbs for Mk.43 torpedoes and 5220lbs for Mk.44 torpedoes, far below the max loadout limit of 12000lbs.
(The reason why I did not prescribe underwing torpedoes for the P2V-5 and vanilla P2V-7 was because the flight manual mention the possibility of carrying rockets and bombs on the wings, but explicitly mention that torpedoes can only be carried internally.)

I hope I defended my choices to your satisfaction!

BTW, what's the status on the F-104S and French Crusader stuff?

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/12/2018 3:10:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Scorpion86

quote:

ORIGINAL: .Sirius
All done with some amendments, so of the loadouts look abit heavy for a P-2 ie EIGHT ASW Torpedos


Please allow me to persuade you!

In both the P2V-4's SAC sheet and the P2V-5's SAC sheet the maximum loadout is listed as being 12000lbs of ordnance. In the former, the maximum torpedo loadout is described as being 4 1200lbs torpedoes (the Mk.34 being the standard issue torpedo at that time, the Mk.41 was an experimental torpedo that did not reach service).

Also, if you check out this NATOPS Manual of the SP-2H, there is a series of tables from pages 197 to 201 detailing the names, weights, and maximum carrying capacity of the SP-2H both internally and externally. Not only could the SP-2H carry 8 internal Mk.43/44 torpedoes, but it could carry an additional 4 torpedoes of the same class under its wings. Since the Mk.43 and Mk.44 weigh at most 260lbs and 435lbs, respectively, a full "f*ck you, submarines" loadout of 12 torpedoes would weigh 3120lbs for Mk.43 torpedoes and 5220lbs for Mk.44 torpedoes, far below the max loadout limit of 12000lbs.
(The reason why I did not prescribe underwing torpedoes for the P2V-5 and vanilla P2V-7 was because the flight manual mention the possibility of carrying rockets and bombs on the wings, but explicitly mention that torpedoes can only be carried internally.)

I hope I defended my choices to your satisfaction!

BTW, what's the status on the F-104S and French Crusader stuff?

Hi modded the loadouts to Neptune Handbooks, F-8 updated, the F-104 Mods are on the to do list for the DB3K as they are ported into the CWDB :)

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/12/2018 3:16:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BDukes

Hi Sirius

Please add Heavy Rocket loadout to RN Navy Phantom FG.1. 10 pods! This picture from 1972




Loadout added

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/12/2018 3:17:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BDukes

Please Add UK Marconi S-600 System. Was used on Falklands in late 82 after fight and in UK since 1968. Mr. Ragnar make entry for Norway #930 in his data

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/120674730/MCATP%207-1968%20New%20mobile%20radar.pdf

Source http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/52557648/The%20Falklands%20Story

Please add for Oman

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/68427766/Oman%20Air%20Defence%20Radar%20System

Malaysia 1969

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/30050230/S600%20radar

Saudi Arabia 1972

http://www.radarpages.co.uk/download/p172.pdf

Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Air_Force_and_Air_Defence

Looks like Kenya, Turkey, Thailand

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/36189315/Major%20achievements%20of%20Marconi%20Radar

Abu Dhabi/UAE: 1976

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/117429012/Abu%20Dhabi

Added

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/12/2018 4:56:23 PM   
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Hi guys
Added the Mirage IV M and Jaguar M Navalised versions as Hypothetical, also added USN F-111B and RAF F-111K aka Merlin GR.1 as Hypothetical as well

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/12/2018 5:38:47 PM   
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Hi Sirius, these updates aren't available until a new exe or command update comes out right?

Thanks

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/12/2018 6:40:51 PM   
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Hi Sirius, these updates aren't available until a new exe or command update comes out right?

Thanks


Correct


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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/13/2018 5:52:15 PM   
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Thank you Sirius

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/16/2018 5:44:37 PM   
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I also would like to extend my gratitude to Sirius, especially considering the huge amount of requests I put up and how quickly he responded to them!

But worry not, I will have fresh requests for you soon! After all, a nitpicker's job is never done... :p

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/16/2018 7:08:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Scorpion86

I also would like to extend my gratitude to Sirius, especially considering the huge amount of requests I put up and how quickly he responded to them!

But worry not, I will have fresh requests for you soon! After all, a nitpicker's job is never done... :p


I agree! We should all be thankful for those who manage the databases.

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/19/2018 10:22:27 PM   
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There are a couple errors with Japanese facilities, and I have some to request as well-

Armored Plt (Type 74 MBT x 4)-

7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds] x 20 should be added to each individual tank

HEAT shells should be removed (it did not receive these shells until the 1980s)

APFSDS-T shells should be changed to APDS-T shells, the ammo count for each individual tank should be increased to 30 (APFSDS was not received until the 1980s as well).

The number of HE shells should be increased to 30 rounds. Considering the only nation to use high explosive for the 105mm L7A3 was France, the HE shells could be renamed HEP (High Explosive Plastic) considering they have the same effects as AP shells anyway.

Sources-

http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php/Ammunition_Data

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主砲にはイギリスのロイヤル・オードナンス社の51口径105mmライフル砲L7A1を日本製鋼所がライセンス生産した物を装備しており、105mmライフル砲用の砲弾は当初APDSとHEPを使用していたが、現在ではAPFSDS(93式105mm装弾筒付翼安定徹甲弾)とHEAT-MP(91式105mm多目的対戦車榴弾)を使用している。

The main gun was a 105mm Royal Ordnance L7A3 license built by the Japan Steel Works, and the shells for the main gun was originally APDS and HEP, but now uses Type 93 APFSDS and Type 91 HEAT-MP.


Type 93 and Type 91 refer to the years 1993 and 1991, APFSDS and HEAT were not available until then.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/74%E5%BC%8F%E6%88%A6%E8%BB%8A#%E6%94%B9%E4%BF%AE%E6%AE%B5%E9%9A%8E

The Type 74 SPH unit should be renamed as follows-

Arty Bty (155mm/39 Type 75 Self-Propelled Howitzer x 6) -- Japan (Army), 1976

It should also have a 12.7mm MG, with 20 x 12.7mm MG Burst [10 rnds].



Sources-

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/75%E5%BC%8F%E8%87%AA%E8%B5%B0155mm%E3%82%8A%E3%82%85%E3%81%86%E5%BC%BE%E7%A0%B2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_75_155_mm_self-propelled_howitzer

The Type 74 is a 105mm SPH, while the 155mm one is the Type 75.

Now then, I would like to request three units for Japan (the "weapons" indicates the weapons per mount)-

Mech Inf Plt (JGSDF) -- Japan (Army)

SSM Plt (Type 64 MAT ATGM) -- Japan (Army)

Weapons- 4x Type 64 MAT ATGM

Info-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_64_MAT

Mech Inf Plt (Type 73 APC x 4) -- Japan (Army), 1973



Weapons- 20x 12.7mm MG Burst [10 rnds], 20x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds]

Info-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_73_Armored_Personnel_Carrier

Mech Inf Plt (Type 60 APC x 4) -- Japan (Army), 1960



Weapons- 20x 12.7mm MG Burst [10 rnds], 20x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds]

Info- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_60_Armoured_Personnel_Carrier

Arty Bty (105mm/30 Type 74 Self-Propelled Howitzer x 6) -- Japan (Army), 1974



Weapons- 43x 105mm/32 HE, 20x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds]

Info-

quote:

車内搭載弾数は43発で、射撃速度は最大で毎分10発に達する。

The ammunition count is 43 rounds, with a fire rate of 10 shots per minute.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_74_105_mm_self-propelled_howitzer

Arty Plt (Type 75 MLRS) -- Japan (Army), 1975



Weapons- 20x 12.7mm MG Burst [10 rnds], 30x 130mm HE Rocket

Info-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_75_130_mm_Multiple_Rocket_Launcher

Armored Plt (Type 61 MBT x 4) -- Japan (Army), 1962



Weapons- 10x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds], 20x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds], 20x 90mm M36 AP, 20x 90mm M36 HE, 20x 90mm M36 HEAT

Info-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_61_(tank)

Armored Plt (Type 60 ATM x 4) -- Japan (Army), 1965



Weapons- 20x 12.7mm MG Burst [10 rnds], 20x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds], 6 x Type 64 MAT ATGM

This is the Type 60 APC, with no troop carrying space and two Type 64 ATGM launchers attached.

Info-

https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Type_60_ATM

For the ATGM- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_64_MAT

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/29/2018 9:05:04 AM   
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Can you please alter the properties of RN Type 22 Broadswords so that they can replenish

Fixed

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/29/2018 8:57:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FlyForLenin


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ORIGINAL: Scorpion86

I also would like to extend my gratitude to Sirius, especially considering the huge amount of requests I put up and how quickly he responded to them!

But worry not, I will have fresh requests for you soon! After all, a nitpicker's job is never done... :p


I agree! We should all be thankful for those who manage the databases.

I agree too
Thank you Paul for your fine work here.

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 5/7/2018 2:01:16 PM   
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Please add Sov Cruiser Makarov

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/8dga3r/1433_x_712soviet_cruiser_admiral_makarov_former/

Thank you Sirius. You responsive and nice

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 5/9/2018 4:45:07 PM   
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Please add Sov Cruiser Makarov

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/8dga3r/1433_x_712soviet_cruiser_admiral_makarov_former/

Thank you Sirius. You responsive and nice

No problems it's on the to do list

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 5/28/2018 3:50:15 PM   
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Beginning with #1624 - CA 124 Rochester all the way through #59 CAG 2 Canberra, all have incorrect aircraft facilities. All are US cruisers that have aircraft carrier arresting wires, catapults, and/or 24 aircraft capacity.

- Posted this in error in the DB3000 section. Moved here.

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 5/30/2018 7:56:25 AM   
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Hi the cats and wires are a work around for launch and recovery of sea planes the large ac space is a typo as it should be 2

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 5/31/2018 5:23:54 AM   
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Hey there! Here am I again, to present the latest results of my research to you! I hope you will find it useful! Enjoy!

Corrections:

#354 – Boeing PB-1W Flying Fortress

- Should have an AN/APS-20A radar with 360º coverage instead of an AN/APS-4 radar.
- Shouldn’t have neither the Generic Weather Radar, nor the Generic ESM [Simple], nor carry the Generic ESM Pod [Average]. The only electronic equipment it carried was the AN/APS-20 radar and an IFF interrogator.
- Should be able to carry 2 310 USGal underwing tanks.
- Please remove all defensive turrets.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/PB-1W_Flying_Fortress_CS_-_1_June_1949.pdf
http://vw1assoc.org/pb_1w_specif.html
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/b17_19.html
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/b17fortress_variants_model_pb-1.html

#1613 – Fairey Gannet AEW.3

- Remove the Generic ESM [Average]. The Gannet AEW.3 was supposed to be upgraded with an ESM system, but those upgrades were never carried out.
- The Airborne Early Warning (AEW) loadout should also include 2 90 ImpG Drop Tanks.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Gannet_AEW.3
http://www.airvectors.net/avalize.html
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/gannet/history.php
https://www.scribd.com/doc/209996634/Warpaint-Series-No-23-Fairey-Gannet

#3823 – Grumman TBM-3W Avenger

- Remove the Browning machineguns, as these aircraft were unarmed Early Airborne Warning aircraft.
- Give the radar 360º coverage, as it was designed.

Sources:
http://www.airvectors.net/avtbm.html
http://steeljawscribe.com/2006/10/06/flightdeck-friday-the-history-of-aew
http://steeljawscribe.com/2006/10/07/flightdeck-friday-the-history-of-aew-contd
http://steeljawscribe.com/2006/10/08/flightdeck-friday-the-history-of-aew-contd-2
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger_equipment_details.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger.html

#993, #2365, #374, #2383, #2645 – Grumman TBM-3W-2 Avenger

- Remove any and all armament, as this aircraft was an unarmed Airborne Early Warning aircraft and carried no ordnance nor any defensive armament.
- Remove the Generic Searchlight, Generic MAD and AN/APR-1 sensors. Apart from navigation instruments, this aircraft carried only the AN/APS-20 radar.
- Give the radar 360º coverage, as it was designed.

Sources:
http://www.airvectors.net/avtbm.html
http://steeljawscribe.com/2006/10/06/flightdeck-friday-the-history-of-aew
http://steeljawscribe.com/2006/10/07/flightdeck-friday-the-history-of-aew-contd
http://steeljawscribe.com/2006/10/08/flightdeck-friday-the-history-of-aew-contd-2
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger_equipment_details.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger.html

#992, #2364, #380, #2382, #2644 – Grumman TBM-3S-2 Avenger

- Remove the Generic MAD sensor.
- Add a K-25 photoreconnaissance camera.
- This aircraft could carry 2 AN/SSQ-1 and 12 AN/SSQ-2 sonobuoys.

Sources:
http://www.airvectors.net/avtbm.html
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/naval-aircraft/aircraft-in-the-korean-conflict/tbm-3s-avenger-korea.html

#892 – Avenger AS.3

- This configuration represents, and should be renamed as, the Avenger AS.3M.
- Remove the Generic Searchlight.
- Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-4
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
RWR: AN/UPD-501 (Canadian-made direction-finding RWR. Listened on X and S bands.)
- This aircraft could carry 16 AN/SSQ-2 sonobuoys.

Sources:
http://www.airvectors.net/avtbm.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger_equipment_details.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger.html

#438 – Avenger AS.3

- This aircraft should belong to Canada, as the UK didn’t operate the Avenger AS.3.
- Remove the Generic Searchlight, Generic MAD and AN/APR-1 sensors.
- Substitute the ASV-10 radar with the AN/APS-4.
- This aircraft could carry 16 AN/SSQ-2 sonobuoys.

Sources:
http://www.airvectors.net/avtbm.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger_equipment_details.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/avenger.html

#436 – Grumman AF-2W Guardian

- The aircraft carried the AN/APS-20C radar, which should have 360º coverage.
- Add a K-25 photoreconnaissance camera.
- Remove all weaponry from this aircraft. This aircraft was an unarmed AEW aircraft and couldn’t carry neither sonobuoys nor bombs.
- This aircraft could carry 2 150 USGal drop tanks.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AF-2W_Guardian_SAC_-_15_February_1952.pdf

#437 – Grumman AF-2S Guardian

- Remove the 20mm cannons.
- Remove the AN/APR-9 and the Generic MAD.
- Replace the AN/APS-30 with the AN/APS-31.
- Add a K-25 photoreconnaissance camera.
- Known weapons configurations:
1 * Mk.34/24 torpedo, 4 * Mk.54 depth charge, 4 * 3.5” rockets
1 * Mk.34/24 torpedo, 6 * 5” rockets, 2 * 150 USGal drop tanks
1 * Mk.34/24 torpedo, 6 * 5” rockets, 32 * AN/SSQ-2

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AF-2S_Guardian_SAC_-_15_February_1952.pdf

#394, #1156, #2670, #1066, #2615, #3427, #3223 – SB2C-5 Helldiver

- Add the Mk.13B Pattern Runner.
- Add the AN/APS-4 radar pod.
- The twin turret should be 7,62mm instead of 12,7mm.
- Could carry up to 4 Mk.54 depth charges.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/SB2C-5_Helldiver_SAC_-_15_August_1948.pdf

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 5/31/2018 5:57:02 AM   
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I almost forgot, here are also some corrections for sensors:

KA-22 Panoramic Camera
- Currently the KA-22 is only capable of Surface Search. It should also have Ground Search (Fixed) and Ground Search (Mobile).

AN/APS-45
- This radar, as a height-finding radar, should have the Altitude Info ability.

AN/APS-95
- This radar, being a 2D long range radar, should not have the Altitude Info ability.

(As an aside, sensors really should be searchable in the database like weapons and ships. It would really come in handy for me!)

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 5/31/2018 6:53:25 PM   
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All done

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 6/1/2018 2:01:17 AM   
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Hi the cats and wires are a work around for launch and recovery of sea planes the large ac space is a typo as it should be 2


Ok. Did not think of that. Thanks for looking.

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 6/1/2018 3:29:02 AM   
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Hi.

I copy some error from thread of DB3000.


- UK Phantom II FG.1(CWDB)



That was changed incorrect name on db 474v. It was Phantom II FG.1 before database.

- F-4J Phantom II(1972~1974 Both marines, navy - CWDB)



AIM-7F Sparrow III was introduced in 1976. I think F-4J(1972~1974) can not mounted AIM-7F, It should be replaced AIM-7E2.

Source

http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104575/
https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=m44cAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA484&lpg=PA484&dq=aim-7f+navy+1975&source=bl&ots=9fAxG8CvL6&sig=YS2gRoipxVhK3V-R9wVsibLjMno&hl=ko&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEue6QwLHbAhXGEbwKHc7FCEYQ6AEIczAN#v=onepage&q=aim-7f%20navy%201975&f=false

- Sturgeon-Class(1978)

1975-1977 Sturgeon has only mounted AN/BQQ-5A(v)2 sonar.
1978 Sturgeon are changed AN/BQQ-2 sonar.

Source
https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ssn-637.htm
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08637.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon-class_submarine
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/usa/us_ss_sturgeon.htm

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 6/7/2018 2:53:18 AM   
TheOttoman

 

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#1890 U-2G - United States (Air Force), 1962


This is going to be fairly easy and straightforward:


General Data
Service Life: 1964-1965 (currently listed as 1962) *
Take-off/Landing Distance: 97.8408-228.0714 **

Sensors/EW
No Changes

Mounts/Stores/Weapons
No Changes

Comms/Datalinks
Remove Skynet SATCOM
Add UHF Radio [Secure]

Signatures
No Changes

Properties
Remove Boom Refueling

Propulsion
No Changes


* - Sourced based on Operation Fish Hawk, and prior testing performed on USS Kitty Hawk, 1963 and USS America Jan 1964. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8HMPMYL19E
** - Davis, Larry, The U-2 Spyplane in Action, Aircraft No. 86, Squadron/Signal Publications, Carrollton, 1988
Pedlow, Gregoary W., and Welzenbach, Donald E. The Central Intelligence Agency and Overhead Reconnaissance: The U-2 and Oxcart Programs 1954-1974, Sky Horse Publishing, New York 2016
- http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/usafserials.html


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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 6/9/2018 10:18:24 AM   
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Hi Paul.

Recently I acquired the excelent book, Tu-128 'Fiddler' of Alan Dawes, Sergey Burdin and Nikolai Popov. ISBN:978-1-78155-404-3



#656 Tu-128 Fiddler A -- 1968-1982. and #1324 Tu-128M Fiddler A -- 1980-1988.

Type: Fighter (It is classified as Attack, It is not a truly fighter due to his very low agility, max G: 2,5.) it will be better if can be classified as an Interceptor.
Length: 30,06 m
Wingspan: 17,53 m
Height:7,15 m
Crew: 2 (Pilot and WSO/Navigator officer)
Empty Weight: 24,960 kg
Max Weight: 43,400 kg
Max Payload: 1,900 kg
Fuel: 14,850 kg (specific density 0,79)
Maximum landing weight: 34,000 kg (with four missiles weight of 1,900 kg).
Normal landing weight: 31,000 kg (with four missiles weight of 1,900 kg).
Specific fuel consupmtion: 4.7 kg/kg*t

Maximum Service ceiling: 20,000 m (65,616 ft)

Table-1. Climb performance.


Table-2. Maximum speed.


Approach Speed: 360 kph (200 knots)
Landing speed: 330 kph (178 knots) flare
Stall Speed: 320 kph (173 knots).
Take-off run: (43,000 kg with reheat):1,600 m.
Landing run (31,000 kg): 830 m.

patrol speed and maximum range speed (cruising speed): 910 kph (mach .855)
Achievable rang3e at 920 kph (mach 0.855) calculated for a weight of 43,400 kg with missile launch at mid-route point and leaving 1,800 kg for landing: 2,510 km.

Achievable flight duration at 910 kph (down to complete fuel exhaustion and with launch of all 4 missiles after consumption of 50% of fuel): 3 hours and 20 min.

COMMS/DATALINKS

  • HF Radio[unsecure] 1RSB-70-US-8, MAX RANGE in RT mode: 800-1,000 km (500-620 miles). in WT mode 2,500-3,000 km (1,555-1,865 miles ), aircraft to aircraft: 300-500 km (190-310 miles)
  • Lazur-1M datalink (GCI) max range:
    H= 1,000 m ->143 km
    H= 2,000 m ->176 km
    H= 5,000 m ->253 km
    H= 10,000 m ->385 km

    RADAR

    Detection range against a single Tu-16 sized target (with 60% of probability of detection): not less thn 50 km (31 miles).
    Lock-on Range against Tu-16 sized-target (with 90% of probability): Not less than 35-45 km (22-28 miles).
    Detection range against MiG-19 Sized target: 30-45 km (19-28 miles).
    Lock on Range against MiG-19 sized target: 22-32 km (14-20 miles).
    Search zone in azimuth: +/- 30º
    Displacement of axis search zone in azimuth -manual or automatic: +/- 40º tolerance of +/- 2º).
    Search zone in elevation: 14º
    Displacement in elevation: Automatic: +52º to 3.5º; manual: +34º to 10º.
    Auto-tracking zone in azimuth: +/- 70º
    Auto-tracking in elevation: +70 to 35º
    Scan period: not more than 3.5 sec.


    Typical Flight profiles:

    To intercept high-Altitude targets (>=10,000 m):
  • Take-off in afterburner, switching off afterburner at a height of not less than 200 m (656 ft) at an indicated air speed of not less tan 450 kph (245 kts),
  • Climb to 9,500 m (31,170 ft) in maximum dry thrust and 870 kph (470 kts) TAS,
  • Cruise at 9,500 m and 920 kph (497 kts) TAS,
  • When commanded by GCI , select afterburner and climb to 11,000 (36,090 ft) at 950 kph (512 knots) TAS,
  • Acceleration at constant altitude to TAS 1,300 kph (700 kts) or 1,400 kph (755 knots)
  • Climb at constant speed of 1,300 or 1,400 to the assigned altitude to the attack or until receiving the command 'zoom climb' (Fiddler attacked usually with zoom climb maneuver in forward hemisphere sector).

    To intercept low-Altitude targets (<10,000 m):
  • Take-off in afterburner, switching off afterburner at a height of not less than 200 m (656 ft) at an indicated air speed of not less tan 450 kph (245 kts),
  • Climb to 9,500 m (31,170 ft) in maximum dry thrust and 870 kph (470 kts) TAS,
  • Cruise at 9,500 m and 920 kph (497 kts) TAS,
  • When commanded by GCI, descend to attack altitude with engines in Flight idle and an indicated air speed of 800 kph (432 kts)(without exceeding mach 0.95)

    Launch x1 R-4R and x1 R-4T or x2 R-4R and x2 R-4T to the target.

    As I said, source: Tu-128 'Fiddler' of Alan Dawes, Sergey Burdin and Nikolai Popov. ISBN:978-1-78155-404-3 Fonthill Media.

    To Do: Check R-4R. R-4T, R-4RM and R-4TM.

    Thanks.

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 6/22/2018 10:32:03 AM   
    Zaslon

     

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    #753 - AA-5 Ash A [R-4R, SARH]
    #754 - AA-5 Ash B [R-4T, IR]
    lenght: 5.36 m
    Span: 1,5 m
    Diameter: 0,343 m
    weight: 483 kg
    Operational altitude range: 26,250 ft- 68,900 ft
    range: 1 - 13,5 nm (2 to 25 km)
    maximum height differential of target above the interceptor at Launch: 7,000 to 8,000 m (22,965 ft to 26,250 ft)

    #754 - AA-5 Ash B [R-4T, IR]
    Lock on distance of the IR seeker head against a Tu-16 sized target with a 3/4 - 0/4 rear aspect: 15 - 20 km (8 nm - 10,8 nm).

    source: Tu-128 'Fiddler' of Alan Dawes, Sergey Burdin and Nikolai Popov. ISBN:978-1-78155-404-3 Fonthill Media.

    To Do: Check R-4RM and R-4TM.

    Thanks Paul.

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 7/1/2018 9:30:16 PM   
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    Ship#1293 - D 181A Hamburg

    Minor mount errors:

    2x533mm TT - Capacity listed as 4, but should be 1

    2xDepth Charge Rack [5DC] - Capacity listed as 12, but should be 5

    Also, Jane's 89-90 and Combat Fleets 1993 show the Hamburgs deploy the AN/WLR-6 ESM, versus the WLR-1. Unfortunately, prior to the late 80's Jane's doesn't list details of EW suites. It just says "ESM" and/or "ECM" with no details. No details found searching the Internet.

    Seems reasonable the Hamburgs initially carried the WLR-1/ULQ-6A suite (seems to have been a common NATO EW Suite from the late 50's through the 70's), but updated to the WLR-6 during a refit in the 70's or early 80's. Not sure if the ULQ-6A would also have been updated too (if it was compatible with the WLR-6). It's difficult to find EW suite details in book and the Internet. Maybe someone with some first hand work experience with these EW suites can shed some light on it.

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    P-40 Long Track radar should be 3-D capable - 7/5/2018 1:33:15 PM   
    Zathred

     

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    Sensor DB ID 229: Long Track [P-40] mobile radar is a 3-D capable device but defined as only 2-D in v474 of CWDB. This sensor should be capable of returning altitude data which it currently does not. The description also says 2-D. Pictures show multiple feed-horns associated with 3-D operation.

    [Not yet allowed to post links - see Wikipedia entry for P-40 radar]

    Affected Units:
    #85 Algeria
    #3060 Bulgaria
    #855 Cuba
    #856 Czechoslovakia
    #857 Germany DDR
    #955 India
    #1592 Iraq
    #858 Libya
    #124 Soviet Union
    #859 Syria
    #1854 Yugoslavia

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 7/14/2018 10:04:46 AM   
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    Alouette III SAAF
    Roles) Gunship (K car), training, light transport, recon, command and control and SAR
    Service 1962 to 2007
    Armament 7.62 machine guns sometimes twin loaded with traced in command role, 20mm guns mk5 hispano, GA1, type 151 in K car role

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    RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 7/14/2018 10:08:11 AM   
    Vulcan607

     

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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Vulcan607

    Alouette III SAAF
    Roles) Gunship (K car), training, light transport, recon, command and control and SAR
    Service 1962 to 2007
    Armament 7.62 machine guns sometimes twin loaded with traced in command role, 20mm guns mk5 hispano, GA1, type 151 in K car role


    Source http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/9/alouette-iii
    And of course the book Gunship ace the wars of Neall Ellis gunship pilot and mercenary
    Surprised Neall Ellis hasn't got a spot in the database to be honest!

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    RE: P-40 Long Track radar should be 3-D capable - 7/14/2018 10:35:45 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Zathred

    Sensor DB ID 229: Long Track [P-40] mobile radar is a 3-D capable device but defined as only 2-D in v474 of CWDB. This sensor should be capable of returning altitude data which it currently does not. The description also says 2-D. Pictures show multiple feed-horns associated with 3-D operation.



    I'd like to note that P-40 even in its more advanced forms was limited in 3D capability. The early P-40 seems to have been associated with PRV-9 height finders. It is mentioned though that the 3D model was used for guiding interceptors (needs better resolution in vertical than just handing off targets to SAM Btry FCR?).

    As usual cant post links yet, but...

    For starters SAM sim dev has gained quite a lot of knowledge in the field of CW WarPac AD.
    SAM Sim thread for SA-4 Ganef at SimHQ forums.

    Also Google gives forums at:
    pvo guns ru , P-40 And PRV-9 in russian
    en valka cz, in czech


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