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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/18/2013 1:39:17 AM   
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Unimportant minor typo, RQ-4B Global Hawk Block 10-30 listed under US Army instead of USAF.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/19/2013 8:39:23 PM   
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Neither LCS-1 nor LCS-2 have boatspace onboard; they can't mount the remote minehunting system they are supposed to field as part of their MIW module, nor any potential ASW UUVs.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/19/2013 9:51:41 PM   
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What version of the db is your latest? DB3k Build 399 should allow on both.

If you don' that version now it should be in the next patch.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/22/2013 4:27:50 AM   
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Wondering if the Generic Forward Air Controller could be equipped with a laser designator to mark targets for aircraft (there are ones specific to France and the US that are equipped with laser designators, but the generic one isn't)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/23/2013 11:20:46 AM   
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I posted the following in the general discussion forum re UK Royal Fleet Auxiliary vessels:

Wave Class AO - Max speed is 22 knots (23 on a good day with a clean hull) and not the 18 knots in the database. The Wave class is not fitted with 20mm GAM-BO1, instead it has 2x 30mm DS30B cannons. These vessels are also routinely fitted with 2x Phalanx CIWS.

Fort Grange Class AFSH - You might want to update these as in summer 2013 Fort Austin was fitted with two Phalanx CIWS and a Type 2070 towed torpedo decoy. Fort Rosalie (re-named from Fort Grange) will eventually get the same modifications. Propulsion engine for this class is a single Sulzer 8RND90 slow speed diesel engine.

Bay Class LSDA - Also fit to receive Phalanx CIWS (fitted to vessels deployed east of Suez).

I've sailed as an engineer officer on all three of the above classes.

Are there any plans to add the new Tide Class tankers to the UK database? I also see the database is missing the various Leaf Class tankers that were used by the RFA from the 1960's through to the present. In particular the current Leaf Class (Appleleaf, Brambleleaf, Bayleaf, Orangeleaf) which have seen extensive service from the Falklands through to all the various happenings in the Middle East. Pretty important ships the Royal Navy wouldn't have gotten very far without in the last 30 years or so.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/24/2013 9:19:02 AM   
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US Ballistic Early Warning radars have been mixed up.

AN/FPS-123 is actually radar used The Clear, Alaska - Not AN/FPS-126.
AN/FPS-126 is radar used by RAF Fylingdales - Not AN/FPS-123.

This have huge impact, because AN/FPS-126 is using three phased radar faces instead of two faces on AN/FPS-123

http://www.radomes.org/museum/equip/fps-115.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_Missile_Early_Warning_System

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/24/2013 2:15:27 PM   
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I'm not seeing the Ulyanovsk carriers in the database, and given the other what-ifs present, they probably should be there.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/24/2013 4:06:56 PM   
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May I propose adding US Marin Corp AN/TPS-80 Ground/Air Task Oriented Radar (G/ATOR) to database?

The US military’s long run of unquestioned air superiority has led to shortcuts in mobile land-based air defenses, and the US Marines are no exception. A December 2005 release from Sen. Schumer’s office [D-NY] said that:

“Current radar performance does not meet operational forces requirements… consequences could potentially allow opposing forces to gain air and ground superiority in future operational areas.”
One of the programs in the works to address this gap is the AN/TPS-80 G/ATOR mobile radar system. It’s actually the result of fusing 2 programs: the Multi-Role Radar System (MRRS), and Ground Weapons Locator Radar (GWLR) requirements. When the last G/ATOR software upgrade becomes operational, it will replace and consolidate numerous legacy radars, including the AN/TPS-63 air surveillance, AN/MPQ-62 force control, AN/TPS-73 air traffic control, AN/UPS-3 air defense, and AN/TPQ-36/37 artillery tracking & locating radar systems.

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/us-marines-to-get-gator-aesa-ground-radars-01245/
http://www.northropgrumman.com/capabilities/gator/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ppl4x-eu8


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/24/2013 8:26:04 PM   
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Updated existing request for AN/TPS-80. Needs additional research (range, in service date, band etc). Will dig abit but if you can find anything please do post.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2013 9:32:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Updated existing request for AN/TPS-80. Needs additional research (range, in service date, band etc). Will dig abit but if you can find anything please do post.

M


Here's little more info: http://www.marcorsyscom.marines.mil/Portals/105/PELandSystem/GATOR_090412.pdf
It uses 55-50 Kw power generator.

http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/karte121.en.html
http://www.defenseinnovationmarketplace.mil/resources/17_2013ATIP_GATOR.pdf

Can't find any info about it's range, but older system had about 300 nm and for missile detection 400 nm.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2013 2:16:29 PM   
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"AK-100 100mm/59" -> "AK-100 100mm/70"

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_39-70_ak100.htm

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2013 3:41:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Updated existing request for AN/TPS-80. Needs additional research (range, in service date, band etc). Will dig abit but if you can find anything please do post.

M

Gonna be a bitch to model - I band, AESA - likely using adaptive waveforms and interleaved modes - given it is replacing:

1. High powered, long range AD radar
2. High powered, mid range terminal survelliance and ATC radar
3. Medium range target acquisition radars
4. Counter battery radars
5. Short range, LPI, pulse doppler target acquisition radar.

Big ask if it works and a single point of failure too

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/27/2013 4:02:21 AM   
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Minor issues I spotted...

#1475 Civilian Motor Yacht [38 m] is listed as only 3 tons and 1 DP? That seems very low when the 13-meter yacht is listed as 10 tons.

#1379 Civilian Sailboat [38 m]...ummm...I'm not sure but the wrong picture may be linked to that record...I'm pretty sure that's not what a 38-m sailboat looks like. :)


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/27/2013 4:38:19 PM   
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There seems to be a minor error in Finland radar database:

#1518 Radar VRRVY - was HF radar for main radar VRRVI not 3D radar as it's now in database. This was Finnish made radar from 1956.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MoRsE/Radars

- - -

Can we get AN/MPQ-64 F1 Improved Sentinel 3D X-band radar for Finland?

http://www.thalesraytheon.com/fileadmin/tmpl/Products/pdf/Improved_Sentinel_Radar_Data_Sheet_-_April_2011.pdf
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/finland-updating-its-air-defense-systems-05398/


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/27/2013 6:50:54 PM   
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Various db requests added to our list.

Mark your second request should go to the db imaging group.

Thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/27/2013 8:45:39 PM   
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If not aware, another site about concrete radar and his performances:
http://woottonbridgeiow.org.uk/decca-legacy/chapter10.php#10.1
http://woottonbridgeiow.org.uk/decca-legacy/chapter7.php

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/27/2013 10:02:15 PM   
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Sure that's a 38 meter sailboat. Its just been dismasted. And lengthened....


I'll take care of it in the next update, due out this weekend. Thanks for pointing it out.



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Minor issues I spotted...

#1475 Civilian Motor Yacht [38 m] is listed as only 3 tons and 1 DP? That seems very low when the 13-meter yacht is listed as 10 tons.

#1379 Civilian Sailboat [38 m]...ummm...I'm not sure but the wrong picture may be linked to that record...I'm pretty sure that's not what a 38-m sailboat looks like. :)








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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/28/2013 2:17:00 PM   
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Finland Hamina-class is without SONAR and ASW-weapons:

The sonar suite includes a Simrad Subsea Toadfish active high-frequency search and attack sonar, and a Sonac/PTA towed array sonar. Not sure which model it is, but it can be added same Toadfish sonar in Rauma-class SS2400 Toadfish.
1 ×  rail for depth charges or mines (depth charges are normal load)
1 x Sonac/PTA towed array sonar

Also speed for Hamina is 30+ knots. I know that they can go much faster with their state of the art water propulsion jet. Adding few knots wont do bad. True high speed is classified, but 35 knots can be easily achieved. Older Rauma class can go at least 35 knots too, which Hamina replaced.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/haminaclass/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamina-class_missile_boat

Hämeenmaa minelayer is without mines. From 2009+ new mine can be added: Sea Mine 2000 - bottom, Acoustic & target Discrimination. Older version use bottom mines.
4 × rails for 100-150 mines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer

Thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/28/2013 5:41:53 PM   
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Hello everyone,

it would be nice if the german frigate f125 could be included to the database.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F125 (sorry only in german, but on the english wiki sensors and radars are not listed)

thank you !!!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/28/2013 5:47:47 PM   
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me once again ;-)

as it is known that germany as country is missing in the import / export facilities. Are you warfaresims / someone of the community working on adding some installations / bases / sam sites for germany ? Would be really nice... because countries like togo or other smallers nations are already in the database and an "important" Nato country like germany totally missing...

Would be nice to have some news regarding that. Thank you once again !

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/28/2013 11:07:10 PM   
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[MOST SHIPS ADDED BY DB v440]

A few more suggestions, possibly repeating some from another thread, but I figured it was best to make sure they were posted here, too.

Car Nicobar Class Fast Attack Craft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Nicobar_Class
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/car-nicobar-class-fast-attack-craft/

Buyan-class corvette
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyan-class_corvette
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/buyan-class-corvettes-project-21630-russia/

Cape-class patrol boat (Australia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape-class_patrol_boat
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/cape-class-patrol-boats/

Gumdoksuri-class patrol vessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumdoksuri-class_patrol_vessel
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/pxk-gumdoksuri/

Baynunah Class Corvettes
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/baynunah/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baynunah-class_corvette

Type 26 Global Combat Ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Combat_Ship
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/global-combat-ship-gcs-programme/

Amazonas-class corvette

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazonas-class_corvette
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/amazonas-offshore-patrol-vessels/

Khareef-class corvette
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khareef-class_corvette
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/khareef-class/

Knud Rasmussen-class patrol vessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knud_Rasmussen-class_patrol_vessel
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/knud-rasmussen-class/

French patrol vessel L'Adroit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_patrol_vessel_L%27Adroit
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/ladroit-offshore-patrol-vessel/

M80 Stiletto
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/m80-stiletto/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M80_Stiletto

Pohang-class corvette
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pohang-class_corvette
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/pohangclasscombatcor/

POVZEE Offshore Patrol Vessel
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/povzee/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaiquer%C3%AD-class_patrol_boat

Holland Class Offshore Patrol Vessels
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/hollandclasspatrol/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland-class_offshore_patrol_vessels

Saettia MK4, Diciotti Class Patrol Vessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diciotti-class_offshore_patrol_vessel
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/saetti-diciotti/

Go Jun Bong Class LST
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/go-jun-bong-class-lst/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Jun_Bong-class_LST

Makassar Class Landing Platform Dock
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/makassar-class-landing-platform-docks/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makassar-class_landing_platform_dock

Thanks for considering these!






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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/29/2013 10:12:34 PM   
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Yak-141 Freestyle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak-141

I don't know what the DB policy on "what if" planes is but the Yak-141 was basically stopped by the dissolution of the USSR, not by technical problems, and would be a very fascinating what if.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/30/2013 3:52:06 AM   
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Pohang-class corvette
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pohang-class_corvette
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/pohangclasscombatcor/


Already existed in DB3K?

#143 - PCC 756 Po Hang [Flight II]
#2256 - PCC 756 Po Hang [Flight II]

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/30/2013 5:33:55 AM   
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quote:

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Pohang-class corvette
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pohang-class_corvette
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/pohangclasscombatcor/


Already existed in DB3K?

#143 - PCC 756 Po Hang [Flight II]
#2256 - PCC 756 Po Hang [Flight II]


I think you're right...I was searching for "Pohang" instead of "Po hang" and that's probably why I missed it.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/30/2013 5:31:00 PM   
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Some corrections for Finland.

Facilities (coastal artillery) - should be building (static) not mobile:
#223 254 mm Coastal Fort

Check: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3482851

Also these radars are all static, can you change them to buildings too:

#889 - Radar (KEVA 2D)
#888 - Radar (KEVA HF)
#1561 - Radar (VRRVI)
#1518 - Radar (VRRVY) - should be HF-radar not 3D-radar (reported earlier in this thread)
#1241 - Radar (TRS 2230) - This is mixed up with TRS 2215. The TRS 2230, is a stationary.

- - -

2010 Finland Navy replaced older FIKA coastal radars. Not sure how to find performance for new radars, but if it can be added it would be great:

NE-18045-X (fixed radar)

The 21035-X-antenna is ideal for use in shore based traffic monitoring and surveillance systems. This is achieved by using an antenna with narrow beamwidth (0.35°), large antenna gain (37 dBi) and fast rotation speed.

http://www.navielektro.fi/18045-Navielektro.pdf

NE-PRA3000

The PRA3000 Light series antenna is ideal for use in shore based traffic monitoring and surveillance systems. The antenna is designed to be a compact package with maximum gain. This has proven to be an ideal solution for gap filling purposes or medium range surveillance. Navielektro has currently deployed the unit in question at locations in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Africa.

http://www.navielektro.fi/PRA3000-Navielektro.pdf

Thank You!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/30/2013 8:25:13 PM   
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quote:

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Wondering if the Generic Forward Air Controller could be equipped with a laser designator to mark targets for aircraft (there are ones specific to France and the US that are equipped with laser designators, but the generic one isn't)


Added the following:

Inf Sec (Forward Air Controller [Laser Designator]) -- Generic (Army)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/30/2013 8:35:57 PM   
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US Ballistic Early Warning radars have been mixed up.

AN/FPS-123 is actually radar used The Clear, Alaska - Not AN/FPS-126.
AN/FPS-126 is radar used by RAF Fylingdales - Not AN/FPS-123.

This have huge impact, because AN/FPS-126 is using three phased radar faces instead of two faces on AN/FPS-123

http://www.radomes.org/museum/equip/fps-115.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_Missile_Early_Warning_System


Oops Fixed, thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/30/2013 8:39:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: El Savior

There seems to be a minor error in Finland radar database:

#1518 Radar VRRVY - was HF radar for main radar VRRVI not 3D radar as it's now in database. This was Finnish made radar from 1956.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MoRsE/Radars

- - -

Can we get AN/MPQ-64 F1 Improved Sentinel 3D X-band radar for Finland?

http://www.thalesraytheon.com/fileadmin/tmpl/Products/pdf/Improved_Sentinel_Radar_Data_Sheet_-_April_2011.pdf
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/finland-updating-its-air-defense-systems-05398/



Both done. The latter as part of NASAMS II.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/30/2013 8:47:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: El Savior

Some corrections for Finland.

Facilities (coastal artillery) - should be building (static) not mobile:
#223 254 mm Coastal Fort

Check: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3482851

Also these radars are all static, can you change them to buildings too:

#889 - Radar (KEVA 2D)
#888 - Radar (KEVA HF)
#1561 - Radar (VRRVI)
#1518 - Radar (VRRVY) - should be HF-radar not 3D-radar (reported earlier in this thread)
#1241 - Radar (TRS 2230) - This is mixed up with TRS 2215. The TRS 2230, is a stationary.

- - -

2010 Finland Navy replaced older FIKA coastal radars. Not sure how to find performance for new radars, but if it can be added it would be great:

NE-18045-X (fixed radar)

The 21035-X-antenna is ideal for use in shore based traffic monitoring and surveillance systems. This is achieved by using an antenna with narrow beamwidth (0.35°), large antenna gain (37 dBi) and fast rotation speed.

http://www.navielektro.fi/18045-Navielektro.pdf

NE-PRA3000

The PRA3000 Light series antenna is ideal for use in shore based traffic monitoring and surveillance systems. The antenna is designed to be a compact package with maximum gain. This has proven to be an ideal solution for gap filling purposes or medium range surveillance. Navielektro has currently deployed the unit in question at locations in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Africa.

http://www.navielektro.fi/PRA3000-Navielektro.pdf

Thank You!


Added both:

Radar (18045X) -- Finland (Navy), 2011, FIKA Replacement
Radar (PRA3000) -- Finland (Navy), 2011, FIKA Replacement

Will leave it up to you to create an INST file where these are plotted

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Yak-141 Freestyle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak-141

I don't know what the DB policy on "what if" planes is but the Yak-141 was basically stopped by the dissolution of the USSR, not by technical problems, and would be a very fascinating what if.


Added request, thanks!

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