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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/30/2020 5:11:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gunner98

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Lynx AH.1, AH.7 AH.9 UK all entries </summary>
<detail>The Lynx AH.X should have the ability to carry 1x 7.62mm MG door mounts whenever not carrying TOW. It can carry troops and door guns but I would suspect that troops should be reduced to 8 vice normal 12</detail>
<evidence>
</evidence>



That seems like a lot of troop capacity for a Lynx. Shouldn't be more like 6 normal?

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/30/2020 7:17:34 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Saudi (P 315) IOC 2020 And Mozambique HSI32 Intercept Patrol Craft. </summary>
<detail>Mozambique IOC 2016 and Saudi Arabia IOC 2020 with 39 total to be built. Saudi version- see first link for ship stats. Add space for 1 small RHIB. 2 12.7mm weapon mounts and 1 Nexter Narwhal 20B 20mm RWS, C-ESM, (same gun on FREMM). Radar look like Kelvin Hughes Sharpeye X and S Band. Mozambique doesn't have Narwhal 20mm but likely 2 12.7mm weapon. No Sharpeye class radar. Likely generic furuno or something like that. Both electro optical TV </detail>
<evidence>
https://cmn-group.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Interceptor-HSI32.pdf
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/09/cmn-hands-over-2nd-and-3rd-batches-of-hsi32-interceptors-to-royal-saudi-navy/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/01/royal-saudi-navy-inducts-first-batch-of-cmn-hsi-32-interceptors/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/03/nexter-naval-group-to-upgrade-narwhal-rws-on-all-french-navy-vessels/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2015-news/april-2015-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/2593-cmns-hsi-32-interceptor-achieved-an-impressive-speed-of-47-knots-in-sea-trials.html
https://twitter.com/asjxjdndbb/status/1206872999900696577/photo/2
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/30/2020 7:51:59 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Algerian Mig-29M and Mig-29MU Aicraft 2022 </summary>
<detail>Algeria receive Mig-29M (single Seat) and Mig-29(M2) aircraft squadron. IOC 2022</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/first-mig-29m-m2-fighter-aircraft-delivered-to-algeria
https://twitter.com/kad_ghani/status/1320675660428234753
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29M
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/30/2020 11:35:38 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Nexter 20mm Narwhal 20B mounts to Charles De Gaulle, Forbins from 2020 forward.</summary>
<detail>The Nexter Narwhal 30B 20mm RMS mounts should be standard on Charles De Gaulle and Forbin. V2 is now available</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/03/nexter-naval-group-to-upgrade-narwhal-rws-on-all-french-navy-vessels/
Forbin Class- 1 high aft above hangar, 1 port and 1 starboard-look right behind bridge next to guy
https://twitter.com/arleighburke511/status/1238737520516530176/photo/1
https://twitter.com/arleighburke511/status/1238737520516530176/photo/3
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/31/2020 5:46:56 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>UKSK VLS can accommodate 91R Kalibr ASW Rocket launched torpedo </summary>
<detail>Admiral Kasatonov has launched 91R ASW weapon from its UKSK VLS system. All data on the UKSK fitted to a variety of Russian warships indicates it is a modular system designed to accept Anti ship anti submarine and land attack weapons </detail>
<evidence>http://worlddefencenews.blogspot.com/2020/10/russian-navy-admiral-kasatonov-frigate.html</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/1/2020 7:43:53 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update Israeli SAAR IV Magen inservice date to 2021.</summary>
<detail>Ship just leaving Germany soon. Paper signed this week. Finish trials in Germany October.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/Oleg77372/status/1322900073370583040
https://twitter.com/WarshipCam/status/1320685961987137539
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/1/2020 7:49:35 PM   
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<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add Australian MQ-4C Triton. IOC 2023</summary>
<detail>Northrop start building and Australia sure to get.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/214007/northrop-begins-building-first-australian-mq_4c-triton.html
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/northrop-grumman-begins-building-first-triton-uav-for-australia
https://www.airforce.gov.au/technology/aircraft/intelligence-surveillance-and-reconnaissance/mq-4c-triton-unmanned-aircraft
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/3/2020 8:53:50 PM   
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Looks like Weapon #719 - ASMP-A [300kT Nuclear] has the MIM-23 Hawk description. It has the correct picture, just a mismatched description.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/3/2020 9:49:34 PM   
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Text description and images issues are on this forum:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3441939

Not intuitive but the DB has nothing to do with descriptions and the default error seems to be for every platform to be the HAWK.
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ORIGINAL: Battelman2

Looks like Weapon #719 - ASMP-A [300kT Nuclear] has the MIM-23 Hawk description. It has the correct picture, just a mismatched description.


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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/3/2020 10:49:16 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Advance Brazilian Scorpene sub #628 Riachuelo in service date to 2021.</summary>
<detail>Ship in test for couple years, completing weapon trials in coming months and in service by end of 2021.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/10/brazils-prosub-submarine-development-program-marks-new-milestones/#prettyPhoto
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/3/2020 10:57:21 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add new Greek 214 Sub #317 with 2022 version with DM2A4 Seehecht Torpedos</summary>
<detail>Greece buy DM2A4 Torpedoes definitely for 214. 209 Types may get but guessing SUT4 till decommission</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/11/hellenic-navy-signs-heavyweight-torpedo-deal-with-atlas-elektronik/
</evidence>

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Small Hangar x2, allows medium aircraft in it. - 11/4/2020 6:32:21 PM   
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Possible issue with Hangar database values.

See the pic.

English Jets Over Uganda: the Ugandans have some Mig21s. They are classified as "Medium" size. Yet, they are housed in "small (x2) hangars". The database limits the small hangar to planes 12m or less. The mig is 14m.

If this is WAD, great. (It did throw off my targeting: I did not think they would fit.)

Here's the screenie:







Attachment (1)

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RE: Small Hangar x2, allows medium aircraft in it. - 11/5/2020 11:21:30 AM   
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Could I request the Aden 25 for British harrier 2s as a prototype weapon.
Hypothetical Harrier big wing this would have refit gr3s FRS1s and probably even the harrier 2s with a larger wing allowing increased payload, range and agility. [image] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Sea_Harrier_FRS1_and_Big_Wing_SHAR.png[/image]






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RE: Small Hangar x2, allows medium aircraft in it. - 11/5/2020 11:41:58 AM   
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hawks wing anti tank missile a lynx mounted swingfire payload seems to be x6
http://www.globalaviationresource.com/reports/2011/military-aviation-westland-lynx-40th-anniversary/#

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RE: Small Hangar x2, allows medium aircraft in it. - 11/5/2020 12:21:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: c3k

Possible issue with Hangar database values.

See the pic.

English Jets Over Uganda: the Ugandans have some Mig21s. They are classified as "Medium" size. Yet, they are housed in "small (x2) hangars". The database limits the small hangar to planes 12m or less. The mig is 14m.

If this is WAD, great. (It did throw off my targeting: I did not think they would fit.)



The hangar has room enough to hold TWO small aircraft. As shown there is one medium aircraft inside. Just as in reality CMO takes account of square footage. Like putting one fullsize pickup truck in a garage that can hold two midsize sedans.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/5/2020 6:59:36 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add UAE Hwasong-5/Scud_B IOC 1990</summary>
<detail>Copy Facility #1544. UAE bought Hwasong-5 Scud B from DPRK in 1988 receive 1991. Missile base still active despite being in storage since 2004</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.gulfinstitute.org/exclusive-north-korea-built-a-secret-missile-base-in-the-u-a-e/
https://twitter.com/JeremyBinnie/status/1123236606532571137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud_missile#Former_operators
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/5/2020 7:51:42 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Turkish F-16 Loadouts</summary>
<detail>Have number of new loadouts. List by link below
2 Amraam, 2 Sidewinder, 2 GBU-54, 2 GBU-12, AN/AAQ-13, 1 300 Gallon Fuel Tank from 2017. These are Block 40.
2 Armaam, 2 SLAMMER, 2 370 Gallon Fuel Tank, 1 AN/AWW-13 DLP Pod- Note likely need these for JSOW loadout too. This sqn block 40/50
2 Amraam, 1 Maverick, 1 Harm, 1 Lantern, 1 Sniper, 1 300 Gallon Fuel Tank, 2 370 Gallon Fuel Tank. Probably could do pair of Sidewinder too
Turkish Block 50 Viper with Conformal Fuel Tank + 2 370 Gallong. Need to convert Ferry but also buildout Long Range loadouts.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1266136456227106819
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1308774786823335936
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1317555102245216257/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1310913138905288706
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1268949767817760771/photo/1
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
</evidence>

Thank I know this one lots of work.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/5/2020 8:07:03 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Lot of Nations use 2 600 Gallon Fuel tanks with F-16</summary>
<detail>Have number of new loadouts. First link talk about tanks but also picture of UAE and USAF and US National Guard Planes. Next are pictures to see what nations have. Greece, Israel F-16I, Denmark, Venezuela and Singpore
</detail>
<evidence>
https://forum.largescalemodeller.com/topic/6252-f-16-drop-tank-sizes/
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1317841086732120064/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1301551767726026754/photo/1
https://twitter.com/TheAviationist/status/1295375093393129472/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1317182835636273152/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1317196189188689920/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1317197653365710850
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1311641361209270272/photo/1
https://twitter.com/TheBaseLeg/status/1277868147849093125/photo/1
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/5/2020 8:17:45 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add F-16I and Barak 40 with Condor 2 LOROP Pod Recce Loadout from 2004</summary>
<detail>Condor 2 LOROP recce pod in picture with IDF Sufa Strike trio. Likely BDA. Condor 2 already in dB as weapon #3671. Picture show 1 Condor, 2 AAM, CFT and 2 600 Gallon tanks.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/AbdNav2K2/status/1311641361209270272
http://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album07/album08/ajd
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/5/2020 8:52:54 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Iranian Emad Missile 2015. Initial version single TEL. 2021 add undeground silo version that can salvo 5 at a time. Assume all Shehab 3 mods can likely be fired but newest favored.</summary>
<detail>Modified Shehab 3. Jane's profiled missile in underground launcher. Warzone and USAF acknowledge it. Mirv or Marv is guided with a CEP of 500m. IOC 2015
2020- Iran built underground launch facilites that can salvo fire 5 at one time.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37440/iran-now-has-automated-missile-launching-magazines-for-its-underground-bases
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/iran-unveils-multiple-ballistic-missile-launcher
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/emad/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_(missile)
https://www.nasic.af.mil/Portals/19/images/Fact%20Sheet%20Images/2017%20Ballistic%20and%20Cruise%20Missile%20Threat_Final_small.pdf?ver=2017-07-21-083234-343
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/iran/emad/
https://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/weapon-program-background-report/iran-missile-milestones-1985-2020
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/5/2020 9:05:07 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Taiwanese Teng Yun UAV 2020</summary>
<detail>New Taiwanese China UAV. Photos with proof of operational service. Likely stop gap until US Reaper arrive.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2057723.html
https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2116198.html
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/tadte-2019-taiwans-ncsist-unveils-new-male-class-uav-development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCSIST_Teng_Yun
http://en.c4defence.com/Archive/taiwan-unveils-new--uav-development/8549/1
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/6/2020 6:24:29 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Aselan CATS EO/IR/Lasing sensor to Bayraktar's.</summary>
<detail>Can replace generic sensors with CATS. Data second link below. Update Aircraft #4736,4749,4820.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/Baykar_Savunma/status/1324666871627567109
https://www.aselsan.com.tr/en/capabilities/avionics-and-navigation-systems/electrooptical-systems/cats-common-aperture-targeting-system-electrooptical-reconnaissance-surveillance-and-targeting-system
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/6/2020 6:32:35 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add 4 missle MAM-L Loadout and MAM-C loadouts Bayraktar's.</summary>
<detail>Look like weapons short by x2 by most picture. Other missile is MAM-C. MAM-C definitely more kinetic but not sure much command difference. Update Aircraft #4736,4749,4820.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/Baykar_Savunma/status/1324666871627567109
https://quwa.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Bayraktar-TB2-Ukraine-Ukrainian-MoD.jpg
https://www.roketsan.com.tr/en/product/mam-c-smart-micro-munition/
https://www.roketsan.com.tr/en/product/mam-l-smart-micro-munition/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAM_(Smart_Micro_Munition)
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/6/2020 6:39:52 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add China Pluto Plus to DB</summary>
<detail>Definitely Pluto Plus or exact copy. Copy #484 Make space on ship #3078 for 2.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/AlexLuck9/status/1324542733592113152
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto_Plus
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/7/2020 7:35:27 PM   
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DB Error: Popeye family ALCMs (including AGM-142 HAVE NAP, excluding the Popeye Turbo which is an SLCM) should not be glide bombs, but should have solid propellant internal propulsion.

Supporting sources:
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/popeye/
https://fleetsubmarine.com/agm-142/
https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-142.htm

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/8/2020 4:20:44 AM   
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This may be dumb because not really game relevant but accuracy i suppose?

For the Air Force HH-60G and HH-60W CSAR birds can we get a PJ Pedro loadout? All the options are for Green berets 12x, Delta force 12x, cargo etc. but would be good to have a rescue team on board for CSAR.

Maybe loadout like CSAR Pararescue 6x? No idea how many crew go out on CSAR missions to rescue downed pilots. I don't think it's a full load in the back but what do I know.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/8/2020 5:15:17 AM   
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For consideration:

EP-3B
EP-3C

These were are flown by VPU-1 and VPU-2 Special Projects Patrol Squadrons. VPU squadrons share crew with VQ squadrons and operate out of same locations as P-3 disguised as regular P-3s.

From what I've read these aircraft are middle of the road as far as SIGINT capability. Better than regular P-3s but not as capable as the EP-3Es.

They have a pretty interesting history, you can see more here:

https://www.p3orion.nl/p3vpu.pdf
https://www.p3orion.nl/sneaky.html

Photos
http://www.verslo.is/baldur/p3vpu/p3vpu.htm

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/9/2020 9:52:26 AM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Missing loadouts for all F-16XL's</summary>
<detail>The F-16XL could carry three Mavericks per wing, for a maximum of six. Currently only a maximum of two can be carried on any variant. Furthermore all were capable of equipping up to four AMRAAM's in addition to their ground ordinance as they were placed on separate, semi-recessed fuselage pylons. The following are some examples of the defined loadouts.

x4 Era Appropriate AGM-65's, x2 Era Appropriate SRAAMs, x4 Era Appropriate AMRAAMs, x2 Era Appropriate LANTIRN/FLIR pods, 1x #1523 300 USG Drop Tank, and x2 #1763 370 USG Drop Tank

x6 Era Appropriate AGM-65's, x2 Era Appropriate SRAAMs, x4 Era Appropriate AMRAAMs, x2 Era Appropriate LANTIRN/FLIR pods, and 1x #1523 300 USG Drop Tank

</detail>
<evidence>
Higher detail version that allows one to see the additional four AMRAAMs equipped onto their conformal mounts
</evidence>

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Canadian Surface Combatant: Details Update - 11/9/2020 8:04:12 PM   
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/11/royal-canadian-navy-unveils-new-details-on-csc-frigates/



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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/10/2020 3:48:17 AM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add ROK Dosan Ahn Changho-class submarine [KSS-III Batch I], 2020 </summary>
<detail>
The lead vessel Dosan Anh Changho was launched in 2018. It began sea trials in 2019 and will be ready for service by 2020.

Displacement:(Batch I) 3,358 t surfaced, 3,750 t submerged
Length:83.5m
Beam:9.6m
Draught:7.62m
Propulsion:Diesel-electric, low noise skew back propeller
4 x Bumhan Industry PH1 PEM fuel cell each with 150 kW
Speed:12 kt surfaced / 20 kt submerged
Range:10,000nm
Endurance:50 days
Complement:50
Armament:Batch-1
6 x 533 millimetres torpedo tubes (Tiger Shark torpedo and Harpoon. Also be capable of carrying cruise and ballistic missiles. )
6 x VLS tubes (Cruise and ballistic missile ex : Hyunmoo 3)

</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosan_Ahn_Changho-class_submarine
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kss-iii-jangbogo-iii-class/
</evidence>

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