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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/17/2020 12:49:30 PM   
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CMO v1.02, 1147.13 (Steam).

Opening Quick Battle, Simple A2A, choosing USAF F-22 2013. (I do not know how to edit/update the database in the quick battle menu. I can do so with scenarios. Therefore, I cannot verify what database this uses.)

The AAM120 C-7 database entry seems to be for a HAWK missile.

Screenshots, if needed, will have to wait for later.


Thanks. I've eliminated that description file. The change will appear in the next release of the description files, approximately in 1 Jan 2021.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 8:18:54 AM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>#862 Ka-28 Helix A(1997) has wrong torpedo / Change loadouts for #4902 Ka-28 Helix A(2019)</summary>
<detail>



It needs to restore one APR-3 torpedo(Ka-27/28 helo can't be loaded two torpedos), #4902 Ka-28 Helix A(2019) can be loaded APR-3M torpedo.




Also #4902 Ka-28 Helix A(2019) would be good to refer to #4327 Ka-27M Helix A(2017, Russian Navy).
</detail>
<evidence>
DB Error
</evidence>

< Message edited by jun5896 -- 10/18/2020 8:31:51 AM >

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 3:19:52 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add F-35A Air National Guard Variant 2020.</summary>
<detail>Green Mountain Boys 134th TFS receive first in 2019 and last in 2020. Copy #3498, add ANG service and then create upgraded variant there. Good news is look like no tech difference betweens USAF and ANG variants so straight copy. Next 2 squadrons replaced in 2023.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/green-mountain-boys-receive-last-lightning
https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2151179/air-force-makes-final-basing-decision-for-next-two-air-national-guard-f-35a-bas/
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 3:27:05 PM   
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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Elint C-2 given official name RC-2</summary>
<detail>Japan designate C-2 Elint to RC-2. Update #4744 to RC-2.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/kawasaki-elint-c-2-officially-named-rc-2
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 3:40:01 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add UAE Global Eye AEW 2020. </summary>
<detail>UAE add 2 Global AEW to AEW fleet. These are identical to Saudi #4999 and better than existing Erieye because they can keep up with jet fighter. So UAE fleet should be 2 SAAB 340 Erieye (in DB) and 2 Global Eye [G6000]. Sipri show identical radar system for both. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/second-saab-globaleye-for-uae-air-force-delivered
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/uae-receives-second-globaleye-aewc-aircraft
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 3:47:33 PM   
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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Brazil designate JAS-39 variants as F-39E and F-30D. Remove hypothetical and IOC more like 2023 or 2024.</summary>
<detail>Please make change of #5003 and #5004 from JAS-39 to F-39E/F. Remove hypothetical and carrier capable comment.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/f-39e-maiden-flight-in-brazil
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/first-brazilian-gripen-arrives-in-country
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/saab-starts-gripen-production-in-brazil
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 4:01:51 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Russian SU-30SM2 IOC 2022</summary>
<detail>Russia update its own SU-30SMs to SM2 which close to SU-35 Standards #4958. Radar is N035 Irbis radar (same as SU-35) engines replaces with AL-41F-1S turbofan (same as SU-35) and IRST is OLS-35 same as SU-35 .</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/su-30sm2-will-make-its-first-flight-by-the-end-of-2020
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/russian-mod-to-sign-contracts-for-21-su-30sm2-and-25-yak-130-aircraft
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 4:22:01 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Israeli LORA #3385 has slightly longer range at 400km (~216nm) rather than 150nm in db. Look like choice of Cluster, Penetrator or HE warhead.</summary>
<detail>More info on this missile at link below. Add Magazine as look like 4 Truck with 4 reload truck deploy with battery.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/211606/iai-says-lora-ballistic-strike-missile-hit-target-at-400km-range.html
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/11723/israel-just-launched-a-containerized-ballistic-missile-from-the-deck-of-a-ship
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 4:31:47 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Khaji Fars ASBM has electrical optical guidance</summary>
<detail>Iran ASBM weapon #2393 has optical guidance. Take a look at picture as EO nose cone is prominent. Oryx very reputable source as well.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.groundreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/6_920328_L600.jpg
https://postlmg.cc/DJ96bqSB
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2019/10/the-oryx-handbook-of-iranian-ballistic.html
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 4:44:19 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add OTV 6 (May2020 Launch) to X-37B Sat orbit list</summary>
<detail>
Launch UTC: 5-17-2020:00:00:00
Deorbit: 1900-01-01 00:00:00 (in orbit)
MissionID: 2020-029A
MissionName: OTV 6 (USA 299)
Inclination: 44.96
Perigee: 388.0
Apogee: 391.0
Orbital Per: 92.34

The following was tested under 1147.11 as a functional TLE in the game. Hopefully the white space in the tle in preserved when posting.
1 45606U 20029A   20139.52987900  .00005000  00000-0  50000-4 0    06
2 45606  45.0000 316.9590 0011390 338.2977 131.6011 15.59372821    04

If it helps:
quote:


INSERT INTO "main"."DataSatelliteOrbits" ("ID", "ComponentNumber", "MissonID", "MissonName", "OrbitNumber", "LaunchDate", "CommissioningDate", "DecommissioningDate", "DeOrbitingDate", "SatelliteNumber", "InternationalDesignator1", "InternationalDesignator2", "InternationalDesignator3", "EpochYear", "EpochDay", "FirstTimeDerivativeOfTheMeanMotionDividedByTwo", "SecondTimeDerivativeOfTheMeanMotionDividedBySix", "BSTAR", "ElementNumber", "Inclination", "RightAscensionOfTheAscendingNode", "Eccentricity", "ArgumentOfPerigee", "MeanAnomaly", "MeanMotion", "RevolutionNumberAtEpoch", "Comments", "Perigee", "Apogee", "OrbitalPeriod", "Plane", "Operational", "TLE") VALUES ('143', '6', '2020-029A', 'OTV 6 (USA 299)', '1', '2020-05-17 00:00:00', '2020-05-17 00:00:00', '1900-01-01 00:00:00', '1900-01-01 00:00:00', '0.0', '-', '-', '-', '0.0', '0.0', '-', '-', '0.0', '0.0', '44.96', '0.0', '0.0', '0.0', '0.0', '0.0', '0.0', '-', '388.0', '391.0', '92.34', '0', '1', '1 45606U 20029A 20139.52987900 .00005000 00000-0 50000-4 0 06
2 45606 45.0000 316.9590 0011390 338.2977 131.6011 15.59372821 04');

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=45606
https://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Launches/Launches.php?year=2020
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/18/2020 5:39:42 PM   
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<type>New</type>
<summary>Iran launch Fateh types from dug underground missile launcher 2020</summary>
<detail>Missiles Fatehs but subtypes not clear. What is clear is they dig in launchers on coast. CMO need a low vis launcher with at least a light to medium armor type to model these.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35546/iran-touts-buried-missile-farms-like-ones-the-united-states-explored-during-the-cold-war
https://twitter.com/mohshaltouki/status/1310135328527863808/photo/1
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/19/2020 3:22:15 PM   
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Two possible additions to the databse, not important at all.
1 Floating container
2 Oil spill
Like to use them in a coastguard scenario.
If somthing like it is already in there, apologise.

with regards

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 10/19/2020 4:11:22 PM   
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The new FFG-62 should be renamed Constellation instead of Agility.

Sources:
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/10/us-navys-ffgx-frigates-will-be-known-as-the-constellation-class/

https://gcaptain.com/navy-names-new-frigates-constellation-class/

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/10/08/the-navy-unveils-name-for-new-class-of-guided-missile-frigates/

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/19/2020 6:14:55 PM   
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It's probably on the to do list, but you can always just rename it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: KLAB

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>FFGX Becomes USS Constellation</summary>
<detail>First of class named USS Constellation.FFG-62</detail>
<evidence>
http://worlddefencenews.blogspot.com/2020/10/uss-constellation-is-name-for-first-us.html?m=1
https://news.usni.org/2020/10/07/secnav-braithwaite-names-first-ffgx-uss-constellation
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/19/2020 8:04:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 14yellow14

<type>ADD</type>

<summary>Please add the Doha-class Corvette</summary>

<detail> Qatar’s 1st Air Defense Corvette “Al Zubarah”


The vessel, which will be delivered in 2021, is designed consistent with the RINAMIL rules. She will be a flexible type of ship capable of fulfilling a range of tasks, from surveillance with sea rescue capabilities to being a fighting vessel, being about 107 meters long, 14.70 meters wide, with a maximum speed of 28 knots. The unit will be provided with a combined diesel and diesel plant (CODAD) and will be able to accommodate 112 persons on board.

Furthermore, the vessel will be capable of operating high-speed boats such as RHIB (Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat) through lateral cranes or a hauling ramp located at the far stern. The flight deck and hangar will be sized for hosting one NH90 helicopter.

The Doha-class corvettes will primary serve for air defense missions and therefore will have a very substantial firepower for their size. They will be fitted with:

16 Aster 30 Block 1NT surface-to-air missiles by MBDA,
8 Exocet MM40 Block 3 anti-ship missiles by MBDA,
a 76mm main gun and 2 Marlins remote weapons stations by Leonardo,
torpedo tubes
a RAM launcher (21 missiles) by Raytheon
4 Sylena Mk2 decoy launchers by Lacroix

It has to be noted that the Aster 30 Block 1NT can intercept ballistic missiles up to a distance of 600 kilometers. With this BMD capacity, Qatar aims to protect its strategic maritime infrastructure such as the offshore oil and gas fields from the Iranian threat. The Doha-class corvettes will be the first ships to ever get this missile system.

Leonardo is responsible for the integrated supply of the new naval units’ combat system (Athena), main radar system (Kronos) and on-board sensors and defence sub-systems, including the anti-torpedo protection system and the Thesan mine avoidance sonar.

The Aster will be guided by the Kronos radar. Because of the relatively small size of the corvettes, early warning / long-range threat detection missions will be taken care of by shore-based radars as well as a larger, L band radar fitted aboard the air defense LPD also procured by Qatar as part of the gobal contract with Fincantieri.</detail>

<evidence> https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/02/fincantieri-launches-qatars-1st-air-defense-corvette-al-zubarah/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/19394/qatar-is-getting-this-unique-amphibious-mother-ship-and-radar-picket-vessel-mash-up </evidence>









More info:

Fincantieri Details Corvette And OPV For Qatar Emiri Naval Forces
https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/euronaval-2020/2020/10/fincantieri-details-corvette-and-opv-for-qatar-emiri-naval-forces/

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/19/2020 8:35:49 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>China Type 055 Nanchang #2834 updates VLS, SAM and Datalink update. </summary>
<detail>First, ship have incorrect VLS fit. Should have one 64 forward and one 48 midship. It look like most think SAM missile is HHQ-9B instead of HHQ-9A. Might want to add new missile called HHQ-9B which should be same as land variant #3763 already in DB. Please update to SA-10 Command datalink with multiple data channels instead of 1. Peoples refer to deck gun as H/PJ-45 130mm which look very close in specification to HJ-38 on vessel now. Same gun on 052D. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/more-details-emerge-about-detection-capabilities-of-type-055-destroyers-radar
https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/focus-analysis/naval-technology/8397-technical-review-type-55-stealth-guided-missile-destroyer-nanchang-of-chinese-navy.html
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2019/april/7014-first-public-appearance-of-the-chinese-nanchang-type-055-destroyer.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/by8gku/plan_sailors_stand_for_review_in_front_of_the/
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/20/2020 7:42:05 AM   
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I'm looking at DB3000 v480 and comparing the AGM-154C JSOW [BROACH] -- 2004 (#826) with AGM-154C-1 JSOW [BROACH] -- 2016 (#3042) and not seeing the Block III improvements represented. For example, the C-1 should have a Link-16 datalink.

Between the two the only difference I can see is the DEFAULT WEAPON CARRIER PLATFORMS, but otherwise they appear to have the same exact stats in the database unless I'm mistaken. Is this intentional or should they be updated to reflect the differences?

There is also a lesser known Block II variant that has a few upgrades.

http://www.fi-aeroweb.com/Defense/AGM-154-JSOW.html
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/usa-issues-jsow-block-iii-production-contracts-05338/
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/agm-154c.htm
https://www.deagel.com/Offensive%20Weapons/AGM-154%20JSOW/a001153

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Sweden oob - 10/20/2020 10:01:19 AM   
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Im looking at BD 3000 v 483 and the coast artilleri, RB 08 and RB 15. RB 08 is a batteri, so should RB 15 be(or RB08 should be a platoon preferred). Also within the batteri was 2 platoons with 3 firing units times 4 Robots in each totalling 24 Robots in the batteri. The ambition was to have 6 batteries of RB 15KA, equaling 12 platoons. But only one batteri was setup due to end of cold war. As of 2020 there has now been a decision to reinstate this batteri into service in response to Russian aggression.

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RE: Sweden oob in general - 10/20/2020 11:04:18 AM   
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Im looking at DB 3000 v 483 and there are some missing hypothetical and actual units.

Submarine A19 has been upgraded, two are already delivered and one more has been ordered
2 Submarine A26 has been ordered to be delivered 2024/25
2 K31 has been upgraded to be able to handle landing of HKP14F(no hangar)
The order is for 9 HKP14E and 9 HKP14F not 13+5
There is a defence proposal for K31 to be upgraded with SAM, decision 2020
SAM RBS 23 Bamse has been made operational and is now stationed on Gotland
RBS 103 Patriot was ordered 2018 with delivery in Q1 2021-2024. 2 Bn with 2 units(Co?) in each with each Co having 3 launchers, so 12 launchers in total. The order includes radar. The missiles are RBS 103A (GEM-T) and RBS 103B (PAC-3 MSE)
RBS 77 has been updated to RBS 97 whith the main difference that it uses the same radar as RBS 23 there are also minor upgrades to the launcher and robots
There is also something called RB17 which is an upgraded version of Hellfire AGM-114C robots for coastal defence. Used from land against ships or landing crafts. Used since 1990. This version was developed by Bofors and Boeing and is also used by Norway. Number of launchers is hard to find but best guess is 12 with 2 platoons with 2 groups in each with 3 launchers in each group

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RE: Sweden oob in general - 10/20/2020 4:55:29 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update to Brazil F-5EM and F-5FM Fighter</summary>
<detail>Look like a few updates to Brazil F-5EM #2102 and F-5FM #3606 entries. For both add Elbit/AEL Targo helmet mounted display, chaff and flare launcher, add skyshield OECM pod (#2701) to loadouts, mixed Derby and Python 4 loadout.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37151/brazils-upgraded-tiger-iis-might-be-the-most-capable-f-5s-in-the-world?xid=twittershare
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
see attached photo
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RE: Sweden oob in general - 10/20/2020 4:59:33 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add 2020 retirement date to USMC AH-1W</summary>
<detail>USMC retire AH-1W this year. Add 2020 retirement date to #2924</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37149/the-ah-1w-super-cobra-has-been-retired-from-the-marine-corps-after-34-years-of-service
https://www.helis.com/database/news/marine-ah-1w-retirement/
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RE: Sweden oob in general - 10/20/2020 6:45:13 PM   
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Should I enter links to my sources despite them all being in Swedish?

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RE: Sweden oob in general - 10/21/2020 12:14:56 AM   
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Personally it would be cool if you did, there is always Google translate.
Thanks
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RE: Sweden oob in general - 10/21/2020 12:18:34 PM   
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Coming

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RE: Sweden oob in general - 10/21/2020 4:55:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gratch1111

Should I enter links to my sources despite them all being in Swedish?


We've cited a lot of non-English sources before so it should be fine.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/21/2020 6:45:51 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add D 655 Alsace [FREMM AAW or FREDA]2021</summary>
<detail>Frances first AAW FREMM close to service. See link below for details in differences between baseline ASW FREMM but new radars, ECM, fire control radar and 2x 16 VLS than can fire Aster 15 and 30 PAAMs. You may want to consider looking at exisint FREMM ASW as the last two were a little different. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/euronaval-2020/2020/10/euronaval-video-naval-group-starts-sea-trials-of-air-defense-fremm-alsace/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/09/french-navys-first-fremm-da-alsace-to-start-sea-trials-in-early-october/
https://twitter.com/D__Mitch/status/1318969817173544960
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/the-fremm-programme-and-its-latest-developments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FREMM_multipurpose_frigate
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/21/2020 8:33:27 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Stan Patrol 4207 for Netherlands Coastguard</summary>
<detail>2 units (Visarend & Zeearend) entered service in 2001 & 2002</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.kustwacht.nl/en/node/131
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damen_Stan_4207_patrol_vessel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damen_Stan_patrol_vessel
https://www.damen.com/-/media/Products/Images/Clusters-groups/High-Speed-Crafts/Stan-Patrol-Vessel/Stan-Patrol-4207/Documents/Executive-Summary_Stan_Patrol_4207.pdf
https://www.marinetraffic.com/nl/ais/details/ships/shipid:263416/mmsi:245888000/imo:9226853/vessel:ZEEAREND
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/22/2020 4:52:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BDukes

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Additional infos on Chinese Type 052DL Luyang II[156 Zibo]2020 Destroyer</summary>
<detail>The 052DL is a slightly updated design of Type 052D destroyer. New Radar in place of 517H-1 Radar on base 52D and helicopter facilies to support 2 Z-20. There are now 2. Like 052D and 055 they receive Type 1130 CIWS like Type 052D since 10th ship- (2019)-Note may want to make a new Type 052D variant dated 2019 with this. They get CIWS update and EW update. TASS is likely SGJ-311 </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/luyang-iii-ii.htm
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1203188.shtml#.X4RXSGSBE2o.twitter
https://sinodefence.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/type-052d-luyang-iii-class/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_052D_destroyer
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type-052c-052d-class-destroyers.6881/page-353
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/212466/china%27s-upgraded-type-052d-destroyer-debuts-in-east-china-sea.html
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2020/july/8725-pla-s-upgraded-type-052d-destroyer-sails-for-the-first-time-amid-rising-tensions.html
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/type-052c-052d-class-destroyers.6881/page-319
https://twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/1295029974278131712
</evidence>




To add here, the new VHF-radar is designated H/LJQ-520 (Type 520). No NATO code known yet.

https://imgur.com/uRE6Wi8

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/22/2020 7:40:43 PM   
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SM-6 block 1b info (and questions)

The new missile will have a larger booster and thus increased range. The increased range is unknown but the article suggests possibly 30% increased range from the prior versions. This is for air to air engagements.

The missile is a multi function mission missile with the ability of being used for long range anti-ship ballistic missile strikes.

In regard for the anti-surface range, it will be almost surely greater than the anti-air range. The missile flies a ballistic/semi-ballistic trajectory. And the missile does not need the same terminal engagement reserves for a slow moving surface ship compared to an aircraft. Do any other members have info on the expected anti-surface range? Or have enough technical knowledge to make an educated prediction?


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27068/navy-to-supersize-its-ultra-versatile-sm-6-missile-for-even-longer-range-and-higher-speed

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 10/24/2020 1:02:59 PM   
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update all S-400 Batteries to mixed SA-21a and SA-21b loadouts. There should be no batteries that are all B. All A would be the first few years of Russia. </summary>
<detail>Ok long story short there are 2 different TELS for the SA-21A and SA-21B and OSINT evidence shows we're still time of mixed battery and nothing is pure SA-21B.The SA-21B TEL (51P) can fire both missile types, SA-21A Tel. (5P85SE-3) can just fire A. China and Turkey seem to be 4 TELS of each. Russia is more A as the B's are being slowly introduced into force.</detail>
<evidence>
Russia:
https://twitter.com/TajoTakoya/status/1319931996798390272
https://twitter.com/halmiso1/status/1311560062075367425
https://twitter.com/TajoTakoya/status/1319646327706365954
China:
https://twitter.com/TajoTakoya/status/1313462670448889857/photo/2
https://twitter.com/TajoTakoya/status/1319586774788825089
https://twitter.com/TajoTakoya/status/1284135346301743104
Turkey
https://twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1255269581259771906
https://twitter.com/TajoTakoya/status/1266274944557568001
</evidence>

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