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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/2/2019 2:19:36 PM   
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Orca I've only heard of a 3 AS-4 loadout. The internal bay can not fit 2 missiles and it only has 2 external pylons so 3 would be the max

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/2/2019 5:34:53 PM   
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Hi,
Adding to Iborg for SSN Suffren in CMO:

Flank antenna in db has 70 nm detection range. On Map only 40 nm is displayed.(See attached)
I guess inherited from former Amethyst class. Hoping to see this corrected.

Also towed array sonar is planed to have 360° detection capacity.
See link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barracuda-class_submarine_(France)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/2/2019 6:44:16 PM   
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AA-10A/C - #3585 R-27R and #3586 R-27ER have not got a corresponding 00/100000 record for the magazines

Logged & fixed for next DB3K update.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/2/2019 7:16:15 PM   
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That may be why I couldn’t find a picture of a 3x AS-4 loadout. Would an AS-4 fit in the internal bay?

If this is considered to be possible, can a 3x AS-4 loadout be added to the Tu-22M?

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Orca I've only heard of a 3 AS-4 loadout. The internal bay can not fit 2 missiles and it only has 2 external pylons so 3 would be the max


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/3/2019 12:37:04 AM   
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The AS-4 goes on an external centerline pylon when carrying x3 for the TU-22. This blocks access to the rotary bay, so I assume that's another big reason why you don't see a ton of pictures of x3 Kitchen loadouts. There are probably a lot more situations where it's useful to have a rotary bay full of ordinance (the previously shown bay full of Kickbacks) plus two Kitchens rather than just three Kitchens. That being said, it's an entirely plausible loadout that the aircraft has flown with and can be equipped with so I entirely support the inclusion of those missing loadouts into the database.






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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/3/2019 1:37:06 AM   
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All variants of the Tu-22 Blinder are missing a loadout of x1 #2375 FAB-9000M-54 GPB and the #1662-1663 and #3007 Tu-22 Blinders improperly have the probe refueling proerty despite the fact that those specific variants did not ever have a refueling probe, that is why the Dalni variants (those with a D in their name, e.g. the Tu-22PD, RD, etc.) were developed.

Sources: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/fab-9000.htm , https://fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-22.htm , Gordon, Yefim; Rigmant, Vladimir (1998). Tupolev Tu-22 'Blinder' Tu-22M 'Backfire': Russia's long ranger supersonic bombers. Leicester: Midland Pub. ISBN 1-85780-065-6., Burdin, Sergey; Dawes, Alan E. (2006). Tupolev Tu-22 Blinder. Barnsley, UK: Pen and Sword Aviation. ISBN 978-1-84415-241-4., https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=316 , https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/tu-22.htm , https://www.milavia.net/aircraft/tu-22/tu-22_specs.htm , Cooper, Tom; Bishop, Farzad; Hubers, Arthur (1995b), "Bombed by 'Blinders': Tupolev Tu-22s in Action – Part Two", Air Enthusiast, Stamford, UK: Key Publishing (117, May/June): 46–57, ISSN 0143-5450.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/3/2019 2:56:02 PM   
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Here's a AAA Facility Entry for Mexico you folks could enter, if you please...
AAA Sec (12.7mm/50 Quad M55 x Towed) (Mexico - 1982?, 50x)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/3/2019 3:14:59 PM   
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Look like all AU Perry Frigates out of service.

Logged and updated for next DB3K release.
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/3/2019 5:35:43 PM   
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Did you remove the Gurkhas?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/3/2019 8:09:27 PM   
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https://twitter.com/aggounkamel4/status/1200876171291955200
This is the first satellite imagery of the algerian early warning radar rezonans-ne
from its location the radar can cover a great zone including parts of Maroco and spain also a part of southren of france
the radar can detect low-observable targets and hypersonic missiles

And
https://twitter.com/charly0153/status/1201842391801647105

And
https://charly015.blogspot.com/2019/12/nueva-imagen-satelite-del-radar-oth.html

Emissions in the FM band.




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2019 7:45:52 AM   
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Buk-M3 has been given the SA-X-27 NATO designation if the TRADOC issued pack of cards is sufficient evidence.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/november_2019_global_defense_security_army_news_industry/new_u.s._army_training_playing_cards_available_via_army_recognition.html




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2019 12:10:19 PM   
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REQUEST NAME CHANGE

I thought this had been changed previously?

#709 INF PLT (BRITISH ROYAL ARMY) - (United Kingdom) change to #709 INF PLT (BRITISH ARMY)- (United Kingdom)
#707 Mech Plt (BRITISH ROYAL ARMY) - (United Kingdom) change to #707 MECH PLT (BRITISH ARMY)- (United Kingdom)
Its not a generic term.
The term "BRITISH ROYAL ARMY" is simply never used, its either just British Army or a specific regiment or corps title which is awarded the term "ROYAL" as an honour from the sovereign. e.g Royal Regiment of Wales etc.

Regards
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2019 6:47:25 PM   
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The #1365 and #997 SSC-3 Styx ASM should have its top speed be set to 622.03 knots (or 320 meters per second.) The current value of 660 knots seems like it may have been derived from an error in reading a Russian chart detailing the statistics of the missile (as it converts to 340 meters per second.)

The highlighted section indicates the speed (or as transliterated "marching speed") in meters per second while the row that lists the 340 value indicates the weight of the rocket motor (or as transliterated "weight of the accelerator".)


Sources: http://www.military-today.com/missiles/p15_termit.htm , https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ss-n-2.htm , https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-Cruise-Missiles.html#mozTocId937963 , http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/p15/p15.shtml

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2019 10:50:50 PM   
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quote:

#709 INF PLT (BRITISH ROYAL ARMY) - (United Kingdom) change to #709 INF PLT (BRITISH ARMY)- (United Kingdom)
#707 Mech Plt (BRITISH ROYAL ARMY) - (United Kingdom) change to #707 MECH PLT (BRITISH ARMY)- (United Kingdom)

Fixed in next DB3K update.
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2019 11:13:00 PM   
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Hellos

#4807 ROK Alouette Out of Service

https://www.janes.com/article/92961/rokn-retires-final-alouette-iii-naval-helicopters

Wonder if get watch or ring?

Bill

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2019 11:26:50 PM   
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Look like old iranian vospers getting updates. #1154. Look like Kamand CIWS and Chaff/Flare Launcher

https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1202152878137323520
https://twitter.com/Iran_Military/status/1202290443171577856

You want might to add subvariant of Moudge Frigate #2550) that has Kamand CIWS too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_frigate_Sahand_(2012)

Kamand CIWS datas. (It AK-630 clone but EO/IR only)

https://missilethreat.csis.org/iran-installs-kamand-phalanx-like-weapon-system-on-destroyer/

http://www.deagel.com/Cannons-and-Gear/Kamand_a003749001.aspx

Thank!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2019 11:37:52 PM   
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Oh look like Myanmar get big Makassar class LPD

Add 1501 Moattama
https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Myanmar-Navys-new-LPD-Moattama-in-Vladivostok-1.jpg
https://seawaves.com/2019/11/04/ums-moattama-makes-first-foreign-port-call-in-vladivostok/
https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status/1194484792777048065
https://twitter.com/aag_th/status/1191038641960652800

No weapon. So likely just copy of existing in DB #2421. Strip weapon.

Thank!



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/5/2019 3:36:40 AM   
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Adding New Radar Facility to South Korea

Arthur-K Mod C for South Korea

https://web.archive.org/web/20110715222101/http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2011---1/Saab-receives-order-for-weapon-locating-system1/



Introduced in 2009 and 2013~2015

FPS-303K AESA Medium Range Air surveillance Radar (Army's designation, Manufacturers/[LIG Nex1] designation is LRS-180)
https://www.lignex1.com/eng/common/download.jsp?filePath=/upload/2016/09/27/2016092714342571379.pdf&fileName=LRS180.pdf

Introduced in 2015~2016

TPS-880K AESA Tactical Short Range surveillance Radar (Army's designation, Manufacturers/[LIG Nex1] designation is LRS-80)
https://www.lignex1.com/eng/common/download.jsp?filePath=/upload/2018/07/20/2018072017324943509.pdf&fileName=LRS-80.pdf

TPS-830K will be replaced by TPS-880K

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/6/2019 7:54:12 PM   
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Submarine AIP Implementation Issues

Hey guys, I'm pretty sure this issue has been raised before, but I am fairly confident that the way CMANO and now CMO has implemented AIP for those submarines so equipped, is incorrect.

My understanding is that AIP simply replaces the diesel generator as a power source to charge the batteries (hence no need to snorkel). The batteries still deliver the 'hotel load' to run the boats systems AS WELL AS the electricity to run the propulsion motors.

The current implementation seems to simply drain the battery and then switch over to, and drain the AIP...

There should still be a discharge/charge cycle with the boat running on batteries and periodically switching on the AIP to recharge the batteries.

If I have this totally wrong, I apologise, but if I'm right (or close to right) then it fundamentally effects AIP equipped doctrine.

Thanks for having a look.




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/6/2019 11:51:23 PM   
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Hi

Easy BMP-3 Update

#2405 Indonesian BMP-3 called BMP-3F, Marines use.

Look like Algeria never get BMP-3 #2830. There are no picture anywere can probably switch nation

Kuwait has 200+ BMP-3 IOC 1995 (Source SIPRI)

Venezuela has 120+ IOC 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8ldXUEVyjk

Thank!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/7/2019 2:59:16 AM   
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Hey gang Im new to the forum but Im retired US Naval Intel and I just got into playing CMNAO/CMO. I started building my first scenario and when I was ready to load up all my airbases I realized that I couldn't load specific weapons on specific planes, notably the Israeli F-16I and the F-15I with Nuclear Freefall Bombs. Now I know and you know that Israel posseses nuclear weapons such as freefall bombs and Popeye missiles that HYPOTHETICLY could carry nuclear warheads. I know that there is NO documentation on SPACIFIC weapons designations and so forth. But could we like put into the Hypo databases 4 to 5 different generic bombs (freefall nuclear) spacificly 5kt, 15kt, 20kt and one that is modern like the B61 a dial a yield bomb with a yield that ranges from 20kt to 750kt and a 1 MT range weapon similar to the American B83, to make the game interesting and somewhat realistic. I mean I would love to go to Tehran and drop a 1 MT bomb on it from time to time after watching the news.....There is plenty of unclassified material out there stating that the F-15I and F-16I is nuclear certified and that Boeing even covered the Nuclear Consent device up so the test pilots that delivered the jets to Israel didn't see them. Also loading up the B-52g/h up with the B53 bomb....you don't have the option when the bomb wasn't retired from the inventory until just 2016 or 17....it was loadable until that time and there are documentation stating that and I can provide that...….I was a Nuclear Weapons Tech for 15 yrs working with the B43, B57 B61 Mods as well as others and I know they were used and loaded and I know what bombers were certified and loaded with for instance the B-52 H and G were loaded at times with 1 B53 and a plethora of mixes of ALCM, ACM. SRAM, B28 B61 and B83 depending on the mission so lets say 1 B-52 might have a load out of 1 B53, 4 B83 and either 12 ALCM, ACM or SRAM....of course these are MAX loadouts but that is just and example...get back with me for more ideas and discussion and lets fix this problem I need to finish my building of my Mid East War Game soon.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/7/2019 4:11:18 AM   
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yes they carried more ALCM could be loaded with 8 Internally and 12 external

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/7/2019 4:44:43 AM   
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Word of advice, it's best to include said proof right off the bat when you submit an issue like that. Seeing as you've only posted 3 times you probably won't be able to include links or anything like that, but for the future when you will be able to post stuff, be sure to start off by including any sources/documentation you might have in regards to whatever issue you may be talking about. It's less work on their end having to research to confirm what you said is actually true, which means there is more of a chance that you'll see the fix sooner if at all.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/7/2019 5:28:02 AM   
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So what about the Hypothetical option???

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/7/2019 5:39:32 AM   
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I'm not employed by the company that maintains CMO or CMANO, I'm just another person posting issues on this forum. I was just letting you know how they'd prefer the stuff to be formatted, which they detail in the post I quoted below. Also, they're typically online around 5-8 hours from now so that's probably when they'll see your post.


quote:

ORIGINAL: apache85

Hey Zaslon,

Do you mean this post?

If so a large part of the reason why it's not been completed is the formatting and lack of detail. Database updates already take a long time to actually do, and that's when all the information is laid out for us. When requests are basically 'this is wrong, go read a webpage I linked to see what needs doing' it can massively increase the amount of time it takes to figure out what needs to be changed and then go and do it. When I see a ticket like that the first thing I think is 'this is going to take me an hour to figure out what this person actually wants' which is quickly followed by 'my time could probably be better spent on a different ticket'.

This post and this post are both examples of excellent formatting and detail--as such the tickets assigned to both have already been completed. The information is laid out in a logical manner, and references are included as actual references, not just 'go read this' links.

This thread, on average, generates literally dozens of hours of development work every day. If you really want something, putting some effort into making it easy for us to do drastically increases the chances of it happening. Complaining that your request hasn't been done and taking shots at us for doing other stuff in the mean time doesn't really have the same effect.


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/8/2019 1:32:14 PM   
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Could we get CA 134 Des Moines #139 and #2590 brought over to the DB3000 from CWDB? These cruisers were in reserve until the early 1990s and were under consideration for being recommissioned.

PS please check the open parking storage..it looks like to me it has a 24 large aircraft open parking space.


Logged for update.

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RE: Requests for DB3000 entries - 12/8/2019 2:25:54 PM   
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It's just been announced that the F-35A will also be getting the JSOW in the coming days (before the end of 2019,


Logged for update in next DB3K release.

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RE: Requests for DB3000 entries - 12/8/2019 7:25:48 PM   
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Hi All

Look like Italian A-129CBT #1004 need update. Look like D variant

https://twitter.com/AurelioGiansira/status/1201801200611594240

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The AW129D combat helicopter in service with the Italian Army is equipped with Rafael TOPLITE III optronic turret that includes FLIR and a new laser. He is armed with Rafael Spike ER missiles and Stinger air-to-air missiles, as well as the 20mm machine gun and 70mm rockets.


Look like D variant first deployed in 2014 by IOC'd in 2012

https://www.helis.com/database/modelorg/Italian-Army-A129/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agusta_A129_Mangusta

https://books.google.com/books?id=5TE6CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=AW-129D&source=bl&ots=dtZl78sUG4&sig=ACfU3U2Uiq2_XAgL4EfWHbWZmijbPyzPNg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi3--GS8abmAhXSuVkKHX9cAA04ChDoATAAegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=AW-129D&f=false

Thank!




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RE: Requests for DB3000 entries - 12/8/2019 8:31:02 PM   
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#383 - PLA-705K Alfa [Lira] (Russia [1992-] (Navy), 1992-1993
#423 - PLA-705K Alfa [Lira] (Soviet Union [-1991] (Naval Fleet [V-MF]), 1978 - 1981
#56 - PLA-705K Alfa [Lira] (Soviet Union [-1991] (Naval Fleet [V-MF]), 1981 - 1991

Max depth under general data shows as -400 m. Performance Details shows max depth as -2297 ft / -700.0 m.

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RE: Requests for DB3000 entries - 12/9/2019 4:11:25 PM   
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#3041 - Type 051B Luhai [Shenzhen] (China 2017)
Request changing 4x YJ-12 twin (max 8 missiles) to 4x YJ-12 quad (max 16 missiles)

Recent photo shows evidence of the maximum loadout option:


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