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Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 11:26:52 AM   
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22:56:33 - Weapon (40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds]) airbursted off K 21 by 103m


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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 11:30:05 AM   
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22:56:33 - Weapon (40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds]) airbursted off K 21 by 103m

That's a burst (4 shells fired at once in a clip) from a 40mm/70 Single Breda gun mount, exploding in flight (not on impact) 103m off a unit named K21, and it's happening at 22:56:33

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 11:34:02 AM   
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Excellent ! thank you !

Then the following speaks by itself now.

22:58:55 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted K 41
22:58:54 - No armor penetration!
22:58:54 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted K 41
22:58:53 - 13% penetration achieved
22:58:53 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted K 41

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 11:46:52 AM   
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OK, another question is this log :

23:03:08 - Contact: MCM #20 has been positively identified as: Hittine - Determined as: Hostile (ID by Sensor: Galileo OG R7/2 at Estimated 5 nm)

What is "Hittine" ?

I first thought it's the name of the contact but no, the contact is identified as :

#1483 - MT T-43 Class -- Syria (NAvy) 1966-D
(damn copy/paste function which is deactivated, have to type all text :-((((( )
No "hittine" here...

Hence my question.
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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 11:48:02 AM   
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OK, it was a stupid question .. Hittine is just the contact nickname, like "Vampire" right ?

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 11:50:03 AM   
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It means that the contact was identified down to precise unit (ie. hull number / name in this case) instead of simply class-identified. It's the difference between "Nimitz class carrier" and "USS Eisenhower".

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 12:27:38 PM   
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OK Thank you Sunburn !

Another question :

I had a contact identified as hostile despite the fact that it seems to be a cargo vessel. My first question is how is this possible as a cargo vessel doesn't seem to be a big threat ?

Then I have the following log;
One of my ships, the 312 Miznal attacks the Cargo Vessel and at the end, it seems we are badly dammaged by underwater explosions. What are these underwater explosions ? Where did I messed up ?

23:40:54 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 19 meters!
23:40:54 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:40:53 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 14 meters!
23:40:53 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:40:48 - 340 Reshev reports BDA status change on contact: Cargo Vessel - Light damage - Major Fire - Major Flooding
23:40:21 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 22 meters!
23:40:21 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:40:21 - 312 Miznak has minor flooding.
23:40:21 - 312 Miznak has a minor fire.

23:40:15 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 11 meters!
23:40:15 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:39:51 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 47 meters!
23:39:51 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:39:39 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 20 meters!
23:39:39 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:39:38 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 16 meters!
23:39:38 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:39:06 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 22 meters!
23:39:06 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:39:00 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 13 meters!
23:39:00 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:38:36 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 54 meters!
23:38:36 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak has suffered blast damage: 0.1 DPs
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 1 meters!
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak has major flooding.
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak has a major fire.
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak has suffered blast damage: 0.7 DPs

23:38:21 - 312 Miznak damage report: THD 1040 Neptune has been heavily damaged.
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak damage report: Galileo OG R7/2 has been heavily damaged.
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak damage report: 40mm/70 Single Breda Type 107 has been heavily damaged.
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak damage report: Gabriel I Single has been destroyed!
23:38:21 - 312 Miznak has suffered fragmentation damage: 0.7 DPs
23:38:21 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:38:06 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 82 meters!
23:38:06 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:37:51 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 27 meters!
23:37:51 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:37:36 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 51 meters!
23:37:36 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:37:21 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 67 meters!
23:37:21 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:37:10 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 24 meters!
23:37:10 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:36:51 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 79 meters!
23:36:51 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:36:36 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 44 meters!
23:36:36 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:36:21 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 21 meters!
23:36:21 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:36:06 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 79 meters!
23:36:06 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:51 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 30 meters!
23:35:51 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:36 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 80 meters!
23:35:36 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:21 - 312 Miznak is being hit by an underwater explosion at 115 meters!
23:35:21 - Weapon: 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:19 - 100% penetration achieved
23:35:19 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:18 - 100% penetration achieved
23:35:18 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:17 - 100% penetration achieved
23:35:17 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:16 - 100% penetration achieved
23:35:16 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:15 - 100% penetration achieved
23:35:15 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel
23:35:14 - 100% penetration achieved
23:35:14 - Weapon: 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] has impacted Cargo Vessel

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 2:38:57 PM   
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here is a picture with details of damages caused after the attack of the cargo vessel (see log in my last post above).

Do I miss something or is it really weird ??






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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 2:51:14 PM   
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The DB viewer lists platforms in their pristine condition, not after having expended fuel, traded weapon blows, received/inflicted damage, and generally seen action.

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 2:54:05 PM   
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What I can't understand is what/who did damage my ship, the Miznak. What mistake did I do and how could have avoid this debacle ?

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 2:59:41 PM   
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BTW, anything you attack becomes hostile.
Mines?

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 3:00:50 PM   
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if you look at the log above it mentions many underwater explosions.

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 6:36:45 PM   
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It would seem to be either mines or a torpedo, and the fact of how many explosions are listed there would be a guess leaning towards mines.

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 6:39:14 PM   
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Is it possible to check if mines are part of the scenario ? (Battle of La Latakia, 1973)

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 8:06:49 PM   
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One way is to open it in the editor...although, I suspect the explosions are coming from torpedoes fired by the torpedo boats. They have nailed me several times.

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/11/2013 11:22:00 PM   
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No - it's not underwater mines or torpedoes. If you were firing at another contact at close range (which usually happens if you're down to guns/cannons), some of the hits will actually reverberate back at you. Not sure if that's really intended or not, but it has happened to me many times now. Maybe one of the devs can comment on this effect. I guess it comes from the fact that at close range, you're actually feeling some of the shock waves being fed back at you, especially if you manage to score hits.

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/12/2013 3:41:13 AM   
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I had a sub sink itself firing a torp at a ship way too close in yesterday exactly like that.

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/12/2013 4:07:41 AM   
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Or there is an error with the 40mm gun mount and you are "hitting yourself" when it fires. Either when shooting (maybe through yourself) or with too big a burst radius on the round when it impacts the target. If it were mines or torps your ship would be dead after a couple hits and these underwater explosions are time stamped and match the gun fire.

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/12/2013 4:25:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Juramentado

No - it's not underwater mines or torpedoes. If you were firing at another contact at close range (which usually happens if you're down to guns/cannons), some of the hits will actually reverberate back at you. Not sure if that's really intended or not, but it has happened to me many times now. Maybe one of the devs can comment on this effect. I guess it comes from the fact that at close range, you're actually feeling some of the shock waves being fed back at you, especially if you manage to score hits.


You know what? It's exactly the feeling I had. I would be happy if a DEV could comment.

If confirmed, then I have 2 questions:

1- is this realistic ?
2- if yes, then how could I avoid this effect ?

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RE: Who could decipher that for me please ? - 10/12/2013 7:20:49 AM   
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You brought the Miznak at point-blank range (probably a few meters at most) so it got some of the blast damage from the explosions on the target.

To avoid this, take control of the Miznak and keep some minimum distance (even 50-100m should be enough).

To make sure it will obey your plot order and not go off on its own, uncheck the "ignore plotted course when attacking" option in the Attack submenu.

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