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can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 1:19:38 PM   
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Destroyer in the front should be easy. the two in he background are tough. The one in the back left has only the funnel visible but might be an Iowa class BB. I don't know he answer to this. BTW, the kitchen in my office has pretty much a similar view as this!




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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 1:57:49 PM   
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The two background ships look like heavy cruisers.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 2:17:37 PM   
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Definitely not battleships (far too small). I'm thinking Northampton class.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 2:19:12 PM   
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The destroyer is the USS Gherardi, a Gleaves-class ship.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 2:20:58 PM   
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http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/0563714.jpg

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:02:04 PM   
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The ship on the right must be a Leander Class CL. Ship in the background left as terminus said most probably a Northampton Class CA

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:04:12 PM   
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The cruiser on the right looks like it's had its superstructure mostly disassembled.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:06:18 PM   
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Unlikely to be a Leander. The pic is from the NY Navy Yards, and while a number of RN ships were refitted there, I don't think any Leanders were. Could be another RN CL type.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:10:14 PM   
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HMS Newcastle was there in this time period.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:10:17 PM   
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quote:

USS Gherardi,

Terminus, thanks for the link. A similar photo with the following caption:

New York Navy Yard, Brooklyn, New York. Dusk falls over the Navy Yard docks, circa June-September 1943. The ship in the centre, just beyond the crane, is USS Gherhardi (DD-637). USS Luce (DD-522) is at left, with only her bow visible. USS Butler (DD-636) is at right, with only her stern visible. USS Doyle (DD-494) is in the right background. A British light cruiser, painted in yellow primer, is in the left background (USN Photo No 80-G-K-3859).





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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:12:57 PM   
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Pretty sure it's the Newcastle. She was there to get her bow replaced, and might have gotten a complete refit at the same time.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:17:08 PM   
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pretty sure no town class cl - look at the torpedo tubes and the bridge -> tubes too far forward for a town class cl and bridge structure too small
obviously the funnel(s) are missing - still my bet a leander or modified leander cl

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:22:42 PM   
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Except that no Leander class (of either flavour) ever visited New York for repairs. One was repaired at Boston, another at Norfolk, and that's it. Newcastle is the only British cruiser of that general outline that was in NY during this timeframe.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 3:36:45 PM   
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HMS Ajax stopped at New York in March 43 before going to Norfolk for further repairs of bomb damage amidships after 1000lb bomb hit off Bone in the Mediterranean. The damage (2 boiler rooms out of order) corresponds with the fact that the slot has obviously been removed (either because of damage or to allow access). So i still say its a leander...

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 7:32:30 PM   
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That is a Leander with the funnel and aircraft cats removed. Compare the silhouette to the line drawing here: http://gb-navy-ww2.narod.ru/HTM-CL-leander.html

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/24/2013 10:47:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hatamoto

HMS Ajax stopped at New York in March 43 before going to Norfolk for further repairs of bomb damage amidships after 1000lb bomb hit off Bone in the Mediterranean. The damage (2 boiler rooms out of order) corresponds with the fact that the slot has obviously been removed (either because of damage or to allow access). So i still say its a leander...


Alright, I did not know about the stop over. You have the point.

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RE: can someone name these ships? - 7/25/2013 3:28:08 PM   
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thank you terminus. remains the question wich CA can be seen in the background left. My best guess is uss Augusta, second guess might be uss Chester (but i have no confirmation that Chester really was in New York). so it looks as if you were right about a northampton class ca.

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