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CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 7:21:39 AM   
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Can somebody explain me What use do I have for CV Escort task forces for IJN. As long as I understand they dont supply lost aircraft to main CV task forces. So what they are for or what good use they have.

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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 3:22:35 PM   
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Not much, but I don't think a CV escort TF will react towards enemy carriers so that they will stick with any other TF that they are covering. Reacting towards the enemy is usually a bad thing for CVEs.

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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 4:38:33 PM   
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Can somebody explain me What use do I have for CV Escort task forces for IJN. As long as I understand they dont supply lost aircraft to main CV task forces. So what they are for or what good use they have.

Thanks forward



I believe that, like all manner of CVE vessels, flight operations are unimpinged by proximity to coastal hexes. Thus, they excel at escorting amphibious landing forces whereas 'fleet' CV "Air Combat" TFs may incur serious handicap in operating in coastal hexes.

The use of an all-CVE "Air Escort" versus "Air Combat" is, I believe, irrelevant. Woe unto those that accidentally stick a CVL or CV into an "Air Escort" TF (is that even possible?) and operate it in coastal waters. Like "Cargo" versus "Transport", I think it's just a different name to help the player differentiate suitable activities for the ships contained therein.

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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 5:49:16 PM   
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What Chickenboy said.

They are incredible useful covering Amphibious operations, as said above, since CVEs do not suffer reduced air operations in coastal hex. I think you can put CVLs to CV Escort TF, but not CVs. I am not sure if CVL would also get benefit from CV Escort TF same as CVE, but only thing I have seen mentioned is that CVEs won't suffer penalty.

If wanting CVEs to supply aircrafts to CV TF, they need to be in Replenish TF.

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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 6:10:21 PM   
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I put them in major Tanker and TR convoys and use the TP planes as ASW scouts and tranined the Fighters. Worked really good.

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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 6:36:03 PM   
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What Chickenboy said.
I think you can put CVLs to CV Escort TF, but not CVs. I am not sure if CVL would also get benefit from CV Escort TF same as CVE, but only thing I have seen mentioned is that CVEs won't suffer penalty.


I think game engine treats CV/CVL the same and only CVE will not suffer ops penalty in coastal hex


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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 7:09:05 PM   
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What Chickenboy said.
I think you can put CVLs to CV Escort TF, but not CVs. I am not sure if CVL would also get benefit from CV Escort TF same as CVE, but only thing I have seen mentioned is that CVEs won't suffer penalty.


I think game engine treats CV/CVL the same and only CVE will not suffer ops penalty in coastal hex



My understanding is that CV's and CVL's only suffer a penalty operating in a coastal hex that contains a dot base or base, if not, they suffer no penalty operating in these waters. Unless something has changed in a patch, I will check with the manual when I get a chance.

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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/23/2013 7:36:03 PM   
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What Chickenboy said.
I think you can put CVLs to CV Escort TF, but not CVs. I am not sure if CVL would also get benefit from CV Escort TF same as CVE, but only thing I have seen mentioned is that CVEs won't suffer penalty.


I think game engine treats CV/CVL the same and only CVE will not suffer ops penalty in coastal hex



My understanding is that CV's and CVL's only suffer a penalty operating in a coastal hex that contains a dot base or base, if not, they suffer no penalty operating in these waters. Unless something has changed in a patch, I will check with the manual when I get a chance.

Maybe, i really not know answer for that so in my game i have use even more restricted definition of coastal hex
I think coastal hex is when at lest one of hexsides of hex is land or hex have island. Also i am not sure what about if one of hexsides is reef.

Anyone can give answer for that?



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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/25/2013 2:47:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

What Chickenboy said.
I think you can put CVLs to CV Escort TF, but not CVs. I am not sure if CVL would also get benefit from CV Escort TF same as CVE, but only thing I have seen mentioned is that CVEs won't suffer penalty.


I think game engine treats CV/CVL the same and only CVE will not suffer ops penalty in coastal hex



My understanding is that CV's and CVL's only suffer a penalty operating in a coastal hex that contains a dot base or base, if not, they suffer no penalty operating in these waters. Unless something has changed in a patch, I will check with the manual when I get a chance.



This is correct. Only face a penalty if they are in a base hex.

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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/25/2013 5:37:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

What Chickenboy said.
I think you can put CVLs to CV Escort TF, but not CVs. I am not sure if CVL would also get benefit from CV Escort TF same as CVE, but only thing I have seen mentioned is that CVEs won't suffer penalty.


I think game engine treats CV/CVL the same and only CVE will not suffer ops penalty in coastal hex



My understanding is that CV's and CVL's only suffer a penalty operating in a coastal hex that contains a dot base or base, if not, they suffer no penalty operating in these waters. Unless something has changed in a patch, I will check with the manual when I get a chance.



This is correct. Only face a penalty if they are in a base hex.


Thanks.


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RE: CV Escort Task Force IJN - 2/27/2013 9:41:52 AM   
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A coastal hex is any hex which is identified as "OS" after hitting the "1" hotkey. Ocean hexes are identified as "OD".

Hexes which include both land and water are identified only the land terrain. These can also be considered to be "coastal".

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