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Submarine wolfpacks - 7/1/2012 3:06:06 AM   
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know that multi-sub task forces are more easily spotted

but how about their effectiveness in the game?

is a TF limited to a single attack only? on can multiple subs in the same TF make attacks during the same phase

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RE: Submarine wolfpacks - 7/1/2012 9:40:27 AM   
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Not sure, but I remember reading a thread on this subject, and that all you were doing in grouping submarines together was raising their detection profile.

I think to simulate a 'wolfpack', its better to have several submarines in separate TF's but in the same hex, minimising the possibility of detection for each TF.

That way you maximise your chances of 'several' combats.

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RE: Submarine wolfpacks - 7/1/2012 2:53:05 PM   
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i tried using 2 & 3-boat wolfpacks in the Downfall scenario, it was useless for attacks, & they got chopped up by superEs.

my wolfpack subs always attacked as individuals, i never saw a combat replay where 2 or more boats attacked in concert.

so while multi-sub TFs might be useful for minelaying, SST, or transit missions, i never use them for patrol missions.
Empire101 is right i think - 3 separate single-boat PatrolTFs following the same PZ path will give you much better results on attack, plus they'll be more efficient when they RTB to re-arm.

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RE: Submarine wolfpacks - 7/1/2012 4:00:31 PM   
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I think every sub rolls for an attack so I doubt a wolf pack or not would affect that. However, one factor that lessens the chance of a successful attack is the detection level. If (and I am not sure) a multi sub task force has a higher chance of detection then I would think this is an disadvantage over several lone subs in a hex-each with its own detection level. But this is all unknown to me and I leave it to a designer to comment. My gut is that I have move success with multiple single sub TF in a hex.

< Message edited by crsutton -- 7/1/2012 4:01:19 PM >


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RE: Submarine wolfpacks - 7/1/2012 5:40:42 PM   
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The entire issue of submarine wolfpacks has been thoroughly discussed in this thread and the various likns I provided to older threads on the subject.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2889330&mpage=1&key=wolfpack�

Basically wolfpacks is a waste of time.

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RE: Submarine wolfpacks - 7/2/2012 7:55:41 PM   
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Multiple separate TFs with one sub in each is the way to go if you need to concentrate your subs at a location... Hal

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