From: San Antonio, TX
Dozens of recent papers, historical and archaeological, on the Late Roman and Early Mediaeval history of the area of the Netherlands. The depopulation of the 4th century, the rise of the Frankish Kings in the South, the Frisian trade in the river area, the enforcement of Christianity, the contacts with the Danes, Lotharingia in between the proto-French and proto-German Empires.
A lot of stuff happened, but I don't know any wargames that depict that theatre. Crusader Kings fails, because its Carolingian start is just a back-projection of a much later feudal situation that has nothing in common with older power structures.
Interesting stuff, springel. As my avatar suggests, I'm a big fan of the implementation of the effects of malaria on the outcome of the Pacific War. How would you propose a game reflects the battlefield effects of the black death?
I am a bit confused. What has the Black Death to do with the "Late Roman and Early Mediaeval history of the area of the Netherlands"?
Please educate me,
I don't intend to have this thread turned into another GD Q/A session/ diatribe / argument, like some other threads have become. My comments to springel weren't intended for your ears and do not / should not denote an interest in descending into a point/counterpoint 'gotcha' with you or anybody else not named springel.
I had always consider that the Middle Ages in European history were about a thousand years old, from circa 500-1500 or thereabouts. As the Black Death was recognized to start in Europe in 1347 and went along from there, I guess that this would be the LATE Medieval time period and not the EARLY Medieval time period. I am so very, very sorry for any misunderstanding.
The comment about the 'depopulation of the 4th century' in the Netherlands made me think that this could have been due to disease-as I know nothing about why an area of Europe was depopulated at the time. In hindsight, it's likely too early for Bubonic or Pneumonic Plague, I suppose, but could be another form of disease.
So, springel-why *were* the Netherlands depopulated in the 4th century?