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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/26/2014 4:13:46 PM   
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oh oh... Looks like a big stack is going to disappear soon... Glupps. Well it is june 45 so some horrendous defeat was bound to happen, but this is going to hurt.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/26/2014 4:19:19 PM   
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oh oh... Looks like a big stack is going to disappear soon... Glupps. Well it is june 45 so some horrendous defeat was bound to happen, but this is going to hurt.


That was a tough bombardment, but I'm hoping a few minor tweaks can resurrect the situation. Plying low supply is a new one, and trying to do it in a clear hex against late war Allied stuff is also something I've not experienced before. Jocke continually uses massed armies of 5k or more, and without stacking limits, the only answer is to pile up a bunch on my side or give up bases.

As you say, it's Jne 45, so I'm not too concerned. My only major strategic thought right now is maintaining the industry as long as possible. If he bombs troop, that's one day not bombing factories.

As stated before, the goal is VJ day with some fighting capability still left. If I make that, anything after is frosting.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/26/2014 6:24:56 PM   
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The turn started with some forays against multiple PT boat TFs at Moppo. I decided to send in a few ships to bombard in case fighters were sent in again here. Es cleared a path first, with one getting a torpedo hit and a few more hitting mines.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/26/2014 6:29:25 PM   
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The CAs took apart quite a few PT boats but after multiple engagements, most likely didn't have much left for the base. The bombardment wasn't very impressive. I let this one get in closer and let the DDs bombard, but the USN also shot back at 17k, so maybe that also threw the CAs off? I'll try a middle ground if I do it again here.

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Night Naval bombardment of Moppo at 100,54 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CA Nachi
CA Maya
DD Isonami
DD Suzukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Shigure

Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port fuel hits 1

E7K2 Alf acting as spotter for CA Mikuma
226th USN Base Force firing at CA Mikuma
CA Mikuma firing at 226th USN Base Force
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Nachi
242nd USN Base Force firing at CA Nachi
CA Nachi firing at 242nd USN Base Force
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Maya
CA Maya firing at Moppo
DD Isonami firing at Moppo
DD Suzukaze firing at Moppo
DD Yamakaze firing at Moppo
DD Shigure firing at Moppo





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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/26/2014 6:32:04 PM   
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The B-29s came on screen next, going for the Dinah III KAI and Sam factories at Tsu and the Franks at Utsonimiya. Tsu had a good number of NF up, but Utsonimiya didn't get bleed from Tokyo and they got a free shot, taking out another 30 Franks. Still have nearly 800 in the pool luckily!




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/26/2014 6:57:32 PM   
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15 June 1945
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GUNZAN HOLDS!

KOREA: The Allies DA and get a 1:2, just barely, letting the base hold. Unbelievable! However, the price was high, and this can't last forever. The Allies lose nearly 10k troops, but Japanese losses approach 20k.

Many of the better divisions have almost no damage, and it's the smaller, less filled out units that really took the hit hard. Lost a lot of arty as well. The Allies might need a few days to get disruption down, and by then our other fresh divisions will be in base. Hopefully that will give another similar result. No 4Es hit though, so that is a bonus.

All in all, a good day here, but it's a temporary celebration, as this is far from over and the Allies have every advantage.

STRAT BOMBING: Minus one more Frank 'r' factory. Down to about 100/month. The pool is good though, most likely plenty for the next two months.

HOME ISLANDS: The sweeps today did some damage, and evened out the advantage we'd been getting for the past week or so. The final tally was something like 139 of ours lost to 50+ for the Allies to all causes. I'd say sweeps got 2:1 or so today. I'll step down tomorrow around Kagoshima. See if more hit empty air.

CHINA: The Allies try a DA near Psingyiang and don't do well at all! They get a 1:13 and that should set them back for a while. If there was supply here I'd be tempted to strike back, but it's unwise in the current situation.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 15, 45 - NIGHT
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E Manju, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
E Miyake
E Nomi
E Chiburi

Allied Ships
PT-316
PT-317
PT-318
PT-319
PT-320, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT-321
PT-322

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 32% moonlight: 2,000 yards

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Nachi
CA Mikuma
DD Shigure
DD Yudachi
DD Yamakaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
PT-260
PT-261
PT-324
PT-325, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-326
PT-327
PT-363, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-364

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TF 38 encounters mine field at Moppo (100,54)

Japanese Ships
E Kasasagi, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
E Karii, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 32% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Night Air attack on Tsu , at 110,60

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 13
J1N1-Sa Irving x 10
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 25

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 13
B-29-25 Superfort x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Ki-46-III KAI Dinah factory hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Utsonomiya , at 115,60

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 22

No Allied losses

Ki-84r Frank factory hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 18 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Nachi
CA Mikuma
DD Shigure
DD Yudachi
DD Yamakaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
PT-539, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-540
PT-541, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-542, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-566, Shell hits 1, and is sunk


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 39% moonlight: 5,000 yards

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 45 - MORNING
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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 47
Ki-84r Frank x 20
Ki-100-I Tony x 67

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 4 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 4 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x F4U-4 Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 36
Ki-84r Frank x 16
Ki-100-I Tony x 56

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 3 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 5 destroyed


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
37 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 28
Ki-84r Frank x 14
Ki-100-I Tony x 39

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 4 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 22
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-100-I Tony x 30

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 16
Ki-84r Frank x 9
Ki-100-I Tony x 16

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 3 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 32000 feet

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 15, 45 - GROUND
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Ground combat at Masan (102,54)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 70064 troops, 1516 guns, 1292 vehicles, Assault Value = 2646

Defending force 121214 troops, 1665 guns, 407 vehicles, Assault Value = 4136

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Ground combat at 81,55 (near Pingsiang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 57403 troops, 1307 guns, 1142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2101

Defending force 125296 troops, 1192 guns, 681 vehicles, Assault Value = 3528

Allied adjusted assault: 398

Japanese adjusted defense: 5437

Allied assault odds: 1 to 13

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2796 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 197 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 98 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 28 (6 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4120 casualties reported
Squads: 52 destroyed, 965 disabled

Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 134 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 89 disabled
Guns lost 207 (14 destroyed, 193 disabled)
Vehicles lost 110 (4 destroyed, 106 disabled)


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Ground combat at Gunzan (102,52)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 126541 troops, 2058 guns, 4612 vehicles, Assault Value = 5681

Defending force 190656 troops, 2471 guns, 1171 vehicles, Assault Value = 6942

Allied adjusted assault: 3100

Japanese adjusted defense: 3494

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
18421 casualties reported
Squads: 385 destroyed, 1104 disabled

Non Combat: 74 destroyed, 367 disabled
Engineers: 36 destroyed, 244 disabled
Guns lost 582 (126 destroyed, 456 disabled)
Vehicles lost 245 (49 destroyed, 196 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
9170 casualties reported
Squads: 220 destroyed, 729 disabled

Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 461 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 93 disabled
Guns lost 313 (35 destroyed, 278 disabled)
Vehicles lost 719 (28 destroyed, 691 disabled)


Assaulting units:
96th Infantry Division
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
98th Infantry Division
706th Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
711th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
713th Flame Tank Battalion
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
716th Tank Battalion
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
38th Infantry Division
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
767th Tank Battalion
31st Infantry Division
1st Marine Division
77th Infantry Division
32nd Infantry Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
4th Marine Division
CenPac Amphib Tank Brigade
192nd Tank Battalion
710th Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
5th Marine Division
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
15th NZ AA Bde
XI US Corps
1st Medium Regiment
33rd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
8th Garrison Unit
128th Division
119th Division
30th Engineer Regiment
70th Infantry Brigade
1st Tank Division
14th Garrison Unit
6th Division
91st Infantry Regiment
9th Division
89th Division
23rd Division
29th Division
4th Division
56th Division
125th Division
98th Ind.Mixed Brigade
83rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
43rd Engineer Regiment
14th Ind.Infantry Brigade
49th Engineer Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
10th Division
24th Division
124th Division
25th Division
2nd Tank Division
22nd Ind. AA Battalion
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Army
81st Field AA Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
Kwantung Army
3rd Rocket Gun Battalion
94th Field AA Battalion
20th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
11th RF Gun Battalion
7th Medium Mortar Battalion
55th Field AA Battalion
11th Mortar Battalion
46th Air Defense AA Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
73rd Field AA Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
45th Ind. AA Battalion
10th Mortar AT Gun Regiment
3rd Special Base Force
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
8th RF Gun Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
27th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
42nd JNAF AF Unit

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Reinforcements:

41st Field AA Battalion arrives at Tokyo

Losses:

Loss of E Manju on Jun 15, 1945 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

CV Franklin is reported to have been sunk near Nakadori-jima on May 14, 1945
CVE Saginaw Bay is reported to have been sunk near Nakadori-jima on May 15, 1945
PT-153 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-251 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-320 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-325 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-336 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-349 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-350 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-360 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-363 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-383 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-539 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-541 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-542 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-565 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945
PT-566 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 15, 1945

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Nice result, but likely short lived. If we can get a few more of these though ...
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 9:58:47 AM   
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Here's some info from Tracker on the last turn's air losses. The Allies easily made up their deficit of the past week. Looks like new Corsairs. Yuck. Even faster.

Looks like he lost 39 on the day to our 86. We also lost 33 NF for like 6-8 B-29s! Bad day at the office!




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 10:03:40 AM   
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Total supplies continue to fall, a LOT! Not much to do about it other than keep fighting until they're gone. There isn't much conservation to do at this point. All replacements have been off for a good while, there is no infrastructure building, I'm not shipping any supply to Korea, and strikes are limited to very good opportunities, i.e. the entire Allied fleet landing troops.

I've considered withdrawing ALL of the LB training groups. I might just do it after this training session, in about 2-4 weeks. Might change all of the fighter units to kami after this session, starting in about 4-5 days when the new pilots are ready and until they are all converted in about 4-5 weeks.

Maybe I should disband engineer and other ground units I don't have to have, as well? Any other ideas?






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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 10:05:48 AM   
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We are actually making airframes, not sure why it keeps listing zero there!

Just calculated that HI would be good at current levels of production until April 46. Of course this game won't go that far unless the Allies send a few million supply our way!




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 10:11:47 AM   
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I wouldn't have Kwantung Army in a hex where there is combat. That will only make your supply and replacement problems much worse IMO.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 11:02:00 AM   
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I wouldn't have Kwantung Army in a hex where there is combat. That will only make your supply and replacement problems much worse IMO.


I placed i there to attempt to draw what supply there is to the hex in question. The base was not drawing supply, and so I had hoped that would get some there. Is there something I'm missing? Do you just mean because it will take a hit there?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 12:45:33 PM   
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This turn opened with an errant E TF getting involved with the PTs again. No bombardments this turn, but I hope this makes him think some were planned.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 12:46:32 PM   
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On their way back they ran over the Sabalo, likely sinking it after multiple direct hits.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 12:47:29 PM   
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Then things got interesting. Corsairs opened up over Gunzan, getting some of our LR CAP cleared away.




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Mustangs were next, and didn't do as well.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 12:50:33 PM   
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Then a rare shot of Japanese bombers over the Allied troops! Just a hundred or so on the day, hopefully enough to keep some disruption on them.




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Then the bombers arrived. Our CAP blew throughout the P-38s, downing around 60 on the day! Couldn't get to many of the bombers before they dropped though. Our LR CAP wasn't as effective as usual, and the middle altitude bands barely showed up, likely due to poor detection times. There are about 3-4 radars in the base though, so hopefully this will improve.




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On the day 500-600 bombers made a visit, but the troops are largely unaffected and doing as well as can be expected after the major battle yesterday.




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The Allies did lose around 15 4E on the day as well.




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The Allies probably kept most of their pilots this time, as did we. The Ki-83 were not as effective in getting numbers there as usual in spite of being 3 hexes away and being set to 80% with 20% rest.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 1:19:18 PM   
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I wouldn't have Kwantung Army in a hex where there is combat. That will only make your supply and replacement problems much worse IMO.


I placed i there to attempt to draw what supply there is to the hex in question. The base was not drawing supply, and so I had hoped that would get some there. Is there something I'm missing? Do you just mean because it will take a hit there?


Well I have observed that the Air Replacement mechanism totally breaks down if the Command HQ of the airbase(s) in question is not sat somewhere un-disturbed with 20,000 Supply. I suspect that ground replacements might be similarly effected.

All of this may be moot given your situation.

Of course my real motivation for asking is OCD. I would be incapable of putting a Command HQ anywhere near the front-line, just as I am mostly incapable of having two Army HQs in one hex.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 2:43:22 PM   
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I wouldn't have Kwantung Army in a hex where there is combat. That will only make your supply and replacement problems much worse IMO.


I placed i there to attempt to draw what supply there is to the hex in question. The base was not drawing supply, and so I had hoped that would get some there. Is there something I'm missing? Do you just mean because it will take a hit there?


Well I have observed that the Air Replacement mechanism totally breaks down if the Command HQ of the airbase(s) in question is not sat somewhere un-disturbed with 20,000 Supply. I suspect that ground replacements might be similarly effected.

All of this may be moot given your situation.

Of course my real motivation for asking is OCD. I would be incapable of putting a Command HQ anywhere near the front-line, just as I am mostly incapable of having two Army HQs in one hex.


Ha! Well, I've had maybe about 4-5 Army HQs in one hex. A hex is a pretty big place, if you consider the greater London area with 12 million people is in quite a lot less space than one hex. So those HQs could be well out of range of the arty and still be close enough for good communication.

In this case this only became the front line two turns ago. It might make sense to pull that back now, but I also don't want it to get crushed in transit to Keijo. It hasn't had the desired effect of getting supply to the base anyway, so there is no real reason to have it there anymore.

Also, no base in Korea is anywhere close to 20k anyway!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 5:13:32 PM   
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Any other ideas?


Have you sucked all your merchant ship's bunkers dry? It may be a way for you to use fuel for your remaining warships and letting the fuel in your port hexes be used for HI instead.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 5:32:17 PM   
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It would be nice if there was an 'unfuel' command as I'm sure it parallels what was done in extremis.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/27/2014 6:20:13 PM   
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It would be nice if there was an 'unfuel' command as I'm sure it parallels what was done in extremis.


Agreed - sounds like a good request for the beta patch thread.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/28/2014 7:26:56 AM   
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Any other ideas?


Have you sucked all your merchant ship's bunkers dry? It may be a way for you to use fuel for your remaining warships and letting the fuel in your port hexes be used for HI instead.


I've got all TFs on 'do not refuel' and do try this. Sometimes for odd reasons they don't take fuel from the other ships. Not sure why. But yes, that is the goal. I'm running very few ships around these days anyway, and they don't have far to go, for sure.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/28/2014 7:29:49 AM   
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It would be nice if there was an 'unfuel' command as I'm sure it parallels what was done in extremis.


Agreed - sounds like a good request for the beta patch thread.


Yes! That would be amazing. Not sure if it's possible. I might make a note though. It would be a LOT of fuel. Although I tried for at least a year to limit merchie refueling, I still have hundreds of full bunkers sitting in ports. I'd have to make that thread a no Jocke zone, as I don't really want him getting any ideas about bombing ports to destroy fuel on ships. I'm still quivering a bit about the 4 CVs in port that still have 20-30 days repairing. Maybe he thinking they're beyond hope? Hope so!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/28/2014 9:23:41 AM   
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KOREA: On the day not too bad, again getting a slight positive air result, and not suffering from the 4E bombing much. There will be days though, where I'm sure it gets bad. I can't LR CAP forever. I'll keep it up one more day, then back to the HI.

STRAT BOMBING: On looking at things the Dinah KAI factory is about half shot now, another Sam factory was also partially destroyed, and NF just can't cover everything. So for those still playing the Japanese side late, the goal is to keep the B-29s away, period. The Hive is what it's all about. Although even Manila and the PI offer close enough bases, so it's almost impossible to do this.

HOME ISLANDS: Both Tokyo and Osaka have about 10-12 days of fuel for the HI now. Most of this will be used to update air groups, I'm sure. As shown in the last update above, the supply just keeps going down. The only viable strikes soon will be kamia and DB, as I can't use torps in most bases now, even though they are in the HQs ready to go.

So the plan is to convert all 2E groups to low naval bombing. I've already switched out pilots. I'll try to run them on strikes at lower altitudes, and hope for some 'for the emperor' dives into ships. I have about 500-600 still in the pools, mostly Peggys, but also some other types.

I did a bit of a count, and there are around 1200 2E bombers still. about 1700 1E LB, but most are training groups. Those I'm going to start phasing out once the pilots are trained. They are less useful. I'll keep the big groups of 27-30 planes, but I don't really have a viable pool of kami planes other than the silly canvas and wire variety trainers that fill out these groups. Something else to think about if you're in the early to middle game. Getting 1E planes ready en masse to use in these groups. If I was doing it again I'd pump up the Myoko, the Toko and Tsurugi, and even build a few more Anns and Mary in the beginning just to have them.

One of the other things I have to start doing is getting ALL of the HI troops into potential invasion areas. I've cleared Hokkaido and the Kuriles to send all of the defenders there to Korea. Depending on events at Gunzan, I might bring some back!

Also, there are concentrations in a lot of the big middle of island bases I should move to the beaches in the West especially.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 16, 45 - NIGHT
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ASW attack near Moppo at 100,55

Japanese Ships
E No.132
E No.118

Allied Ships
SS Sabalo, hits 11, heavy damage

SS Sabalo is sighted by escort
Sabalo bottoming out ....
E No.132 fails to find sub and abandons search
E No.118 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 16, 45 - MORNING
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Morning Air attack on Gunzan , at 102,52

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 21
J2M3 Jack x 15
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18
Ki-83 x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 93
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 5 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Gunzan , at 102,52

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 18
J2M3 Jack x 15
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 15
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84a Frank x 4
Ki-84r Frank x 72

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Gunzan , at 102,52

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 13
J2M3 Jack x 15
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 58

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 15th NZ AA Bde , at 102,52 (Gunzan)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 3
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 36
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 5
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 6 damaged
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 15th NZ AA Bde , at 102,52 (Gunzan)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 41
Ki-84r Frank x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 7 damaged
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 29th Division, at 102,52 (Gunzan)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
J2M3 Jack x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 47

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 66
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 25 destroyed
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed by flak


Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled

Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 29th Division, at 102,52 (Gunzan)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 4
J2M3 Jack x 4
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 8
Ki-83 x 6
Ki-84r Frank x 20

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 30
Liberator GR.VI x 14
B-24J Liberator x 23
B-17E Fortress x 6
B-17F Fortress x 2
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-24D1 Liberator x 16
B-24J Liberator x 219
P-38L Lightning x 22
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 2 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed

PB4Y-1 Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
464 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 10th Division, at 102,52 (Gunzan)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-83 x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 5
B-24J Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 2
B-24J Liberator x 28
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 16, 45 - GROUND
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Ground combat at Masan (102,54)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 67630 troops, 1300 guns, 1128 vehicles, Assault Value = 2644

Defending force 121118 troops, 1664 guns, 407 vehicles, Assault Value = 4127

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Reinforcements:

54th Army arrives at Nagoya

Losses: none.

Ships Sunk: none.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/28/2014 9:41:06 AM   
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KOREA: Well, all the fun in the air just came to an end. About 300-400 P-47N swept Gunzan. Looks like back to the olden days of 8:1 with this plane en masse against even our best planes and pilots. Not complaining though. It's a great plane, and his pilots are likely the best in game in those beasts. We lost around 160 fighters to a reported 24 P-47N shot down. Yikes!

This will likely mean a big push by 4E next turn. I'd like to have one more day of respite, for reasons soon to be revealed. Not sure we'll get it though. Hoping for rain!

Troops are back to around 6500AV and still on the way up at Gunzan. If we can stuff another attack it might start to spiral backwards on the Allies. Or they'll just bring more. Without stacking limits he can break through, it's just a matter of if he wants to add another 5-10 divisions. I really wish we'd adopted SL way back in 42 when I proposed it, but Jocke didn't want to as it would 'limit' his offensive in places like Burma. That is probably true, as he then massed 10k AV in a big stack and forced us to respond in kind to slow it down, then finally landed behind. This happened time and again in every major area, including the Marianas, (5k AV landings on Saipan and Tinian), in Cotabato, in Manila, and in th ultimate stack in China, with 18kAV and a million men FAILING () at Kweiyang against 2kAV IJA until the Brits moved up to force the issue.

Stacking limits would have changed it all, and limited these mega-stacks, the only counter to which is another big stack behind forts in good terrain in defense. Too bad. But it's been a fun game nonetheless, and if I'd been able to thwart him a few more times in places, he might have quit and we likely wouldn't have gotten this far anyway, so at the price of plausibility, we at least got here.

STRAT BOMBING: More night bombing, and the B-29 are being used more and more frequently. Toyama's Ki-83 factory gets nailed and destroyed. Also Oita has some LI hit, but at least here a bunch of the B-29-1 still flying are taken down by NF.

HOME ISLANDS:

CHINA: Wow. The defeat for the Allies near Psingiang knocked them back to around 1300AV! They did send in the waves of 2E today to thwart our chances of a DA in return. If we had full supply and if there was some possibility of a CAP here I would probably break out. Now, with low supply and 600 Allied 2Es on the loose, that isn't really a good option. I'll keep this going for as long as possible.

The Allied tanks take Nanchang and move forward toward the Hangchow area. Our troops are trying to get into good territory in front of them, but the tanks are moving fast. I've got about 3k AV spread around here to slow things down. I'll try to block from the front and move in behind. I want to constrict mobility of the tanks until the bigger slow armies have to move up to break things open. The massive Chinese army is now moving and is nearing Henyang.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 17, 45 - NIGHT
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Night Air attack on Toyama , at 112,57

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 2
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 21
B-29B Superfort x 40

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Ki-83 factory hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 18 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Toyama , at 112,57

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 2
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5d-S Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Oita , at 104,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 27
P1Y2-S Frances x 5
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 12

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Light Industry hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 17, 45 - MORNING
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Morning Air attack on Gunzan , at 102,52

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 15
J2M3 Jack x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Ki-83 x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 8
Ki-84r Frank x 57
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Gunzan , at 102,52

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 12
J2M3 Jack x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 8
Ki-83 x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 47
Ki-102b Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed


No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Gunzan , at 102,52

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
J2M3 Jack x 1
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-83 x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 41
Ki-102b Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 8 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

... and so on for another ~10-12 groups sweeping.

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Afternoon Air attack on Gunzan , at 102,52

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 7
J2M3 Jack x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-83 x 6
Ki-84a Frank x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 30
Ki-102b Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 11 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on 36th Division, at 81,55 , near Pingsiang

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 17
B-25H Mitchell x 15
B-25J1 Mitchell x 18
B-25J11 Mitchell x 47
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 10

Allied aircraft losses
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
591 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 45 - GROUND
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Ground combat at 81,55 (near Pingsiang)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4062 troops, 270 guns, 306 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297

Defending force 118509 troops, 1164 guns, 666 vehicles, Assault Value = 3110

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
43rd Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
18th British Division
2nd British Division
7th Infantry Division
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
XV Indian Corps
6th Medium Regiment
India Command
208th Field Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
Provisional GMC Grp

Defending units:
62nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
110th Division
68th Division
36th Division
132nd Division
22nd Division
69th Division
15th Division
92nd Infantry Brigade
61st Infantry Brigade
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
131st Division
31st Engineer Regiment
11th Army
72nd Field AA Battalion
52nd JAAF AF Bn
1st Mortar Battalion
67th Ind.Infantry Battalion
56th JAAF AF Bn
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
17th JAAF Base Force
38th Army
12th Army
North China Area Army
21st Mortar Battalion
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
11th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
22nd AA Regiment
130th Division
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
31st Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
75th Field AA Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
China Expeditionary Army
10th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment
71st Engr Rgt /2

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Reinforcements:

DD Hatsuume arrives at Nagoya

Losses:



Ships Sunk:

xAK Arizonan is reported to have been sunk near Darwin on Apr 24, 1944
xAK Billy Sunday is reported to have been sunk near Marcus Island on Apr 07, 1945
Previous report of sinking of DD Knapp incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of DD Ursa incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

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The GODZILLA STACK of Chinese has reached Henyang. That base will be vaporized soon. This looks like around 15k AV and 500-600k troops!!!
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No rest for the weary. The P-47Ds have a shot at Kagoshima CAP, but luckily I beefed this up again before the turn, rotating in fresh units. Interesting he keeps coming here, always sweeping, never bombing, in spite of suffering poor results for a few weeks now. Same today, as the D version seems to have lost it's shine a bit. We get better than 1:1 again. Tomorrow a surprise here if the P-47N shows up in the hundreds.




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