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Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 6:11:25 AM   
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I need to get some PTs to Midway from Pearl. Do I just have an AO follow them and refuel?

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 6:53:28 AM   
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Put them in an escort TF with one or two longer legged ships and they'll do just fine. You don't have to commit an oiler unless you happen to have one handy.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 11:40:43 AM   
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Put them in an escort TF with one or two longer legged ships and they'll do just fine. You don't have to commit an oiler unless you happen to have one handy.



Does traveling with a big ship allow them to hide behind it so they don't get battered to death by the open seas, or will they arrrive beat to all hell?

Ships (boats) with low durability don't hold up well traveling long distance in open seas. I once tried evacuating the HDMLs and other small craft from Singapore to Colombo and most barely made it while many sunk altogether.

The simplest way to get them from Pearl to Midway safely is return them to the pool and rebuild them at Midway. I typically return the Pearl PTs to the pool on turn two to have them available for redistribution elsewhere as soon as possible.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 1:03:56 PM   
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Having them transferred with couple of big ships nicely abstracts that they were usually transported on decks of bigger ships.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 1:19:36 PM   
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PTs will likely suffer damage during a long voyage - keep them at cruise speed, and have an AGP waiting at journey's end.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 1:22:10 PM   
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PTs will likely suffer damage during a long voyage - keep them at cruise speed, and have an AGP waiting at journey's end.



Ive not seen this in my games. I usually put them in a TF with an AK to top off fuel and sent them from PH to the Marshalls, the Solomons and have had them arrive fighting fit. It does take a while though!

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 1:31:59 PM   
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Here is a picture of tanker with PT-boats as deck cargo:



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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 1:50:40 PM   
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Having them transferred with couple of big ships nicely abstracts that they were usually transported on decks of bigger ships.



Cool. My cross ocean trip with the HDMLs from Singapore was in PT or SC TFs without motherships.

I can see where transport aboard a mothership would be preferable to return to the pool for journey's that would take less than the 21 days it takes to cycle them through the pool, disregarding the danger of sub attack on the TF of course.

Still, for any journey by TF that would take longer than 21 days, cycling through the pool, which also guarantees they won't be sunk by subs, would still be the better choice.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 2:07:53 PM   
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I don't think your HDMLs suffered  because they were small craft in a big ocean.  I think they ran out of fuel and accumulated SYS damage.

Small craft (HDML, PT, etc.) do not suffer ill effects simply from going to sea. Keep them fueled (mainly by embedding them in a TF with some big ships that they can re-fuel from) and they'll do fine.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 2:15:19 PM   
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Island hopping is the best...but out in the Pacific, I return them to the pool and then select a port that they will reappear at. I believe this process takes 30 days, but not sure, can someone validate that? Hal

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 2:37:56 PM   
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I don't think your HDMLs suffered  because they were small craft in a big ocean.  I think they ran out of fuel and accumulated SYS damage.

Small craft (HDML, PT, etc.) do not suffer ill effects simply from going to sea. Keep them fueled (mainly by embedding them in a TF with some big ships that they can re-fuel from) and they'll do fine.



Understood and thanks for the clarification.

However, inclusion in a slow boat TF that will take longer than 21 days to arrive at it's destination is still not a better choice than recycling through the pool.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 2:39:06 PM   
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Island hopping is the best...but out in the Pacific, I return them to the pool and then select a port that they will reappear at. I believe this process takes 30 days, but not sure, can someone validate that? Hal



I already have. It's 21 days for undamaged PTs. Longer, if damaged, varying by amount of damage.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/10/2011 10:58:47 PM   
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Yes, once you build up a decent number the pool system works best and there really is no need to move them long distances. However, you can't build them in Commonwealth ports so I have moved some to India as well as some LCT in a large convoy wiht a couple of big AKs. It takes a while but works fine.

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/11/2011 2:29:55 AM   
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Concerning comments about journeys of over 21 days, keep in mind that the original poster asked about going from Midway to Pearl - don't think 21 days is much of a factor here. (CR is correct about the system damage due to lack of fuel also. Whether abstracted or not, the PTs will do just fine when in a TF with a long legged AK or two.)

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RE: Moving PT Boats..how over long distance? - 11/11/2011 2:47:01 AM   
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Years ago someone posted a photo on the WITP forum of an AGP (?) sailing from Pelelieu to Leyte in concert with a gaggle of PTs. They were not being towed, IIRC, but I could be wrong about that.

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