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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/6/2011 10:39:34 PM   
obvert


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16 Jan 1942

DEI: More than 100,000 Japanese troops shock attacked across the Johore strait today and the results were bloody. I'll let the report tell the story.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 16, 42
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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 115610 troops, 1302 guns, 437 vehicles, Assault Value = 3945

Defending force 47440 troops, 573 guns, 395 vehicles, Assault Value = 1301

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 2845

Allied adjusted defense: 1881

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
12903 casualties reported
Squads: 149 destroyed, 590 disabled
Non Combat: 42 destroyed, 121 disabled
Engineers: 33 destroyed, 118 disabled
Guns lost 93 (15 destroyed, 78 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
2592 casualties reported
Squads: 62 destroyed, 360 disabled
Non Combat: 56 destroyed, 141 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 94 disabled
Guns lost 124 (8 destroyed, 116 disabled)
Vehicles lost 108 (52 destroyed, 56 disabled)
Units destroyed 2


Assaulting units:
56th Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
18th Division
5th Division
41st Infantry Regiment
21st Division
55th Engineer Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
2nd Division
Imperial Guards Division
33rd Division
4th Division
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
3rd Cavalry Regiment
1st Manchester Battalion
11th Indian Division
5/14th Punjab Battalion
1st Malay Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
SSVF Brigade
2/17 Dogra Battalion
2nd Loyal Battalion
2nd Gordons Battalion
27th Australian Brigade
2nd Malay Battalion
9th Indian Division
Malayan Air Wing
224 Group RAF
Singapore Fortress
223 Group RAF
110th RAF Base Force
Singapore Base Force
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
109th RAF Base Force
III Indian Corps
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
112th RAF Base Force
Malaya Army
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
AHQ Far East
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2nd ISF Base Force
111th RAF Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
109th RN Base Force


The good news is that the forts are at 2, the Allies took some significant losses, our AV is still at 3150 after the attack, and after 4-7 days waiting, it should pop back up to 3400-3500 for the next attack. With forts at two and if disruption is down, there is a strong chance to take the base soon after. HQ is determined not to be impatient here and attack again too soon. There are 4 small engineer units with 15 AV each we might bring in to help out.

The bad news is that one of our units, a 32 AV IJA engineer unit was completely wiped out! It was just bought back for 2 PP and will appear in Tokyo in 15-30 but will have to be rebuilt from scratch. Also, although the Divisions did well, the regiments predictably did not. One is down to 15 AV. The hope was that they would take some of the damage and leave the divisons more or less intact. This seems to have been the case. Even with the Armour we wouldn't have gotten a 2 to 1, so I'm glad that is all on its way to Burma.

Dan kept quite a lot of units in here, and obviously wanted to slow us down here. I'd like to get Singers before the actual fall date, so in less than a month. I think that could happen if we don't jump too soon.

subs: Sub wars are still going nuts. More ASW hits for both sides (a B-17 dropped a bomb on I-27 near Tahiti), and also some good recon from the subs again. Two CVs sighted two hexes from Tahiti. Three subs are in the area and will move to try to intercept. The TF is reported to be moving SE, which is either to Tahiti or another small island nearby, or toward the wormhole at Port Stanley? The KB is changing plans and moving in stealth mode at mission speed just after a full refill. Even though this is a lot of fuel to spend for little chance of catching them, if a torp goes in one I want to be close enough to capitalize. We should be 5-6 days out unles the KB does another warp 7 jump like it did out of Truk, moving 36 hexes in two days.

China: Dan asked abuot all of the units in China in his last email. He said, 'Are you possibly trying to take China out of the game?' Yes, Dan, I am. Didn't tell him this though. Just mentioned that he didn't leave me anyone else to fight, and I'm not much liking losing bombers once a week.

So 3 IJN fighter groups are active in China as of this turn. The Tainan group, 12th Ku and 15th Ku. I want no more popping around of the AVG. If it moves to any 3 sized airfield, there will be a 30 fighter sweep no matter what. Bombing missions will be escorted and will have at least one fighter group in escort. The main goals are to hit all good fields and keep damage on them at all times and to hit size 1 fields to destroy supply.

Armour is almost to the first far northern town we're attacking. I forget the name. South of Hami.


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Sub attack near Pescadores at 83,63

Japanese Ships
xAK Tamaki Maru, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Yahiko Maru
xAK Seizan Maru
xAK Syoto Maru
PB Naruto Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack



Massive explosion on xAK Tamaki Maru
SS Skipjack launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Tamaki Maru
PB Naruto Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Naruto Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Naruto Maru #3 attacking submerged sub ....
PB Naruto Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Naruto Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Georgetown at 47,75

Japanese Ships
MTB G-3

Allied Ships
SS KXI



SS KXI is sighted by escort
KXI bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection


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ASW attack near Tetiaroa at 174,176

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
DD Rathburne



SS I-26 is sighted by escort
DD Rathburne fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Rathburne fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Rathburne fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Rathburne fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Rathburne fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Tahiti at 176,178

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
DMS Hovey



SS I-21 launches 2 torpedoes at DMS Hovey
I-21 diving deep ....
DMS Hovey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Hovey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Hovey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Hovey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Hovey fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Air attack on Tjepoe , at 54,103

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8



Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 11
B-339D x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 300 kg GP Bomb
4 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 300 kg GP Bomb
3 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 300 kg GP Bomb
3 x B-339D bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai Det with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes



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Sub attack near Tjepoe at 54,103

Japanese Ships
PB Busho Maru
CM Itsukushima
TB Hatsukari
TB Manazuru

Allied Ships
SS O21, hits 1



SS O21 launches 2 torpedoes at PB Busho Maru
O21 bottoming out ....
TB Hatsukari fails to find sub and abandons search
TB Manazuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Manazuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Manazuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Manazuru attacking submerged sub ....
TB Manazuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Belep Islands (112,155)

TF 8 troops unloading over beach at Belep Islands, 112,155





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Amphibious Assault at Biak (87,110)

TF 147 troops unloading over beach at Biak, 87,110





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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 18
G4M1 Betty x 54



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 18000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
24 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 18000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
18 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 18000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 18000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion, at 53,102 (Semarang)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 9



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 11th Chinese Corps, at 87,32 , near Ningsia

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 19



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 81st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 11th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 81st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 11th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 65
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 29
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Ichang , at 83,48

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 9
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 23



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Chinese Corps, at 86,41 , near Loyang

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 19
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Chihkiang , at 78,50

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 5



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 7



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Chihkiang , at 78,50

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, at 45,91 (Benkoelen)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes


Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 300 kg GP Bomb
9 x 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 300 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Burma Division, at 54,53 (Rangoon)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 29



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 102nd PA Infantry Division, at 79,89 (Cagayan)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 26



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
26 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rangoon BAF Battalion, at 55,52 , near Rangoon

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 26



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Sub attack near Jesselton at 66,82

Japanese Ships
PB Zosen Maru

Allied Ships
SS Salmon



SS Salmon launches 2 torpedoes at PB Zosen Maru
Salmon diving deep ....
PB Zosen Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zosen Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zosen Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zosen Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zosen Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Kirakira (116,140)

TF 320 troops unloading over beach at Kirakira, 116,140





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Amphibious Assault at Madjene (65,103)

TF 410 troops unloading over beach at Madjene, 65,103

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost overboard during unload of 3rd JNAF Coy
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost overboard during unload of 3rd JNAF Coy


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Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16179 troops, 167 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 988

Defending force 14881 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Assaulting units:
15th Division
22nd Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
13th Army
4th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
3rd War Area
25th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at Manus (101,119)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 402 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 9

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manus !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
III/84th Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at 65,105 (near Makassar)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1488 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 659 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Japanese adjusted assault: 12

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 2nd SNLF

Defending units:
Makassar Garrison Battalion
Makassar Base Force


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Ground combat at Benkoelen (45,91)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3852 troops, 25 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 147

Defending force 81 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 46

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 46 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1



Assaulting units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
2/15 Punjab Battalion
4th KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Riouw KNIL Battalion
Zuid KNIL Battalion
West Borneo KNIL Battalion
SE Borneo KNIL Bn /3

Defending units:
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /2


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Ground combat at Koepang (68,116)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 443 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Defending force 2378 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 73



Assaulting units:
Timor Garrison Battalion
Dili Detachment
Koepang Base Force

Defending units:
Kimura Det



< Message edited by obvert -- 11/6/2011 10:49:55 PM >

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/7/2011 12:39:16 PM   
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PI: The 5th Amphibious Brigade is unloading at Cotabato and will move on to Cagayan. This 162 AV should give us the needed firepower to finish off Mindanao. Once that happens all units not being used for garrison (there are three 21 AV SNLFs for Mindanao in place) will be moved to Java. The rest of the Philippine Islands will be mopped up later.

Still waiting at Clark for disruption to lower and units to get squads back into fighting condition before even bombarding. Bombing is having a tough time hitting anything on the fields at Bataan, so forts might be getting high there. We're going in from 18,000 and getting about 10 hits every other turn. Not great. So this may just be a sit and wait for supply to run out kind of siege.

DEI: Units at Singers are starting to heal up. Already up 100AV from yesterday. Bombing here is hitting more often, about 20 field hits a day, but the toll is higher from flak. At least one Sally a day now.

On Java the 38th division has moved one hex from Soerabaja. It will head back up the road to Madoien to take the base and have a size 4 airfield to use here. Then once the 15th Guards Rgt has fully unloaded, they will move together toward Soerabaja. There are around 15,000 to 17,000 troops there based on recon. Many Dutch base forces appear to be spread around the island still so hopefully the forts are no too high and he didn't pull much from outlying areas in to defend I would guess there would be around 300 AV there.

S PAC: The CV sighting evaporated in the area around Tahiti. The KB is still on course to hit down here, as lots of stuff is still nearby and we can't take the chance that the CVs stayed and do nothing. A few more days and we'll know more.

N PAC: The I-24 continues to limp back to Adak. Contrary to most examples of Japanese damage control, the float damage has gone down over the past few days. If this boat makes it it'll be a miracle.

Burma: Troops move in to Rangoon and will attack tomorrow. The city is vacant, but there is always the possiblity of bombing the infrastructure once it's taken, so base forces are on the way and LR CAP is already assigned from Moulmein for the time being.

China: All Allied air stood down, and no battles were fought. We've caught the fleeing Chinese Corps in the north and will attack with 250 AV of armour tomorrow. Recon has been stepped up to find out where he's moving things. One thing to note is a new and large concentration of force at Lanchow. Almost 50,000 troops and 11 units there now. So the forces are being split. Other defense blockades are being shifted. The main road to Sian has less on it than a week ago, only 12 units now as compared to 16 previously. All plans have been put on hold and 5,000 AV is waiting to move from several northern bases behind the lines and out of sight until the weak spots are located.






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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/7/2011 4:15:56 PM   
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You are moving at a very robust pace! Excellent work, obvert.

Do the Allies still hold Pago, Noumea and Suva at this point or have you occupied all those points? I was surprised to see significant action taking place at Taihiti already.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/7/2011 5:29:58 PM   
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DEI: Troops at Singers are up to 3279. Bombing continues to get hits on the field, so we're confident forts are not building. Most fighter groups are moving to Burma and China.

The Dutch have been trying to bomb Palembang with no fighter cover. For the last attack we only had one group of 9 on 20% CAP and we only got 1 Martin. This turn it was two groups of 9 on 40% CAP and 15 Martins came in. Only 3 made it back home. This was our first massacre of Allied air since the British flew back to India. Our next might be soon, in China.

At Tarakan the deliberate attack came off at 1 to 2. Disappointing. No more units will be committed, so this might go on for a while. Not too concerned about it, as there is plenty of fuel to use and the subs are still lurking everywhere anyway.

The Koepang invasion is on hold for reinforcements. We're at 72 to 53 AV. I don't want another drawn out battle, and the unit here is healing disabled squads, so within a week a few more small SNLFs will move in to supplement the attack.

China: Major bombing took place at Nanning, with minor hits on Ichang, Yenan, and the ground units in the north. Our Armour then attacked on the road to Lanchow and nearly wiped out the two Chinese Corps there, with over 200 infantry 200 and support squads destroyed. I don't want to wipe these out completely, so we'll have to limit attacks to one or two tank units for the rest of the trip to Lanchow. Recon noticed a build-up of 45 bombers at Lanchow this turn, with 8 fighters at Kungchang to the south. It looks like we can just barely LR CAP the armour, so a large Oscar group will move in and take over this task. We are in range of Lanchow now if these are the SB-3s but not for the Chinese fighters, so it'll be interesting how this plays out in the next few days. All of our level 3 fields are more than twelve hexes from Lanchow, which I'm sure is why Dan feels safe leaving these up there with no CAP. I can hit them with Betties though.

We took Kiuchuan to the north of Lanchow with no opposition. Units move into Hami tomorrow.

We attacked with 1400 AV vs 500 AV at Wenchow. Forts went to 2, but the attack was 1 to 1 and caused some disruption and disablement, so it's another wait. The field is still at 48 damage, so supply must be low here. Maybe the disabled Chinese squads will not be able to heal.

Burma: Radio Tokyo announced the fall of Rangoon today. The port is messed up, with 100 damage, but the fields look good. Base forces are on the slow road to Moulmein. LR CAP is on at Moulmein so hopefully he tries a quick bombing run. Hopefully not at night. It's 7% moon right now, so it shouldn't be too effective if there is a night attack.

Some ships are in the Akyab hex, and Betties have just gotten torp ability at Raheng. First a sweep will go in to make sure this isn't a cap trap. Then the Betties will fly next turn.

Another new Guards Rgt landed at Rangoon and is moving into the Burma region. With this unit and the arriving armour, the push to Mandalay should happen within a few weeks.





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You are moving at a very robust pace! Excellent work, obvert.

Do the Allies still hold Pago, Noumea and Suva at this point or have you occupied all those points? I was surprised to see significant action taking place at Taihiti already.


It's all about pace, right?

Yeah, I forgot to mention in my just completed update, that Noumea was captured. We've taken Luganville and Efate will fall next turn. These will not be built up. A few small AF Coy will go in to provide search, but really we're only taking it all because he's leaving a vacuum to take. I'm starting to think he would like an overextension on our part, so the empire will concentrate on the process of building defenses within our chosen perimeter while keeping up the appearance of extending. Really, though, the strongest defenses will only be built down to the line formed by Lunga, Rossel Island, and Milne Bay. Anything past that is snatch and grab, then vacate.

We most likely won't go for Suva. Unless I get bored because nothing is happening down here and he doesn't bring troops in at all.

Tahiti seems like the only base he's loading units into so far in the Pacific. Saw a DD outside Pago. No merchies though. Although I haven't checked out Christmas, Johnston and Palmyra. I bet something is going on there too. Some replenishing subs are on their way to camp out and probably get DCed.



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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/8/2011 4:21:22 PM   
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S PAC: I had forgotten to mention that our S PAC Rgt took Noumea last turn. Small SNLFs are taking Efate, Belep and Koumac this turn. I hadn't though of taking Suva and Nadi, but based on princep's question I noticed that there is only one unit in Suva. Hmm.

I'm getting the feeling Dan is definitely holding back on any kind of reinforcement in the South Pacific. Port Moresby is listed as having one unit as well. As stated above, our philosophy here will be to take any space that is left relatively unguarded, but not to expand into those spaces. This may seem useless in the long run, but it seems good strategy to HQ at this point in the war. It may mean we take out a few forces that are in these locations, plus it gives free recon and denies the same to the Allies. A few cheaply replaced SNLF Coy will be shipped and flown into these locations. The few navy recon units are heading this way as well as a larger group of Jakes we'll divide and use to pop around. There is a new Mavis unit coming soon which will be dedicated to this region. A few small AVs might be used, but since it's easy to buy back the AF Coys now, this seems like the best option for most of these spots, and they can be flown in easily by the long range Mavis-Ls.

No sight still of the CVs near Tahiti, but they could be in port refueling or waiting. Or heading to the wormhole. Dan said in his email he is having trouble not having enough search in the Pacific and that he has lost sight of the KB. This is good, because it's two days outside of a possible strike at Tahiti now. We'll try to recon with our two Glens here and see if anything is in port.

N PAC: Recon is beginning here by the Cats from Cold Bay. Amchitka was snooped today. Nothing there yet, but an engineer is on the way. Another small engineer is heading to Attu.

DEI: Singapore troops are up to 3379 this turn. The divisions are healing nicely. At about 3,500 AV we might try again.

Burma: No fighters were in Akyab so we'll set the Betties to 14 hexes and hope they attack at least as far as 12. Zeros have been brought in as escort just in case.

China: Nothing is in Hami in far NW China. Our two armour units will take the base next turn. It looks like everything around has either been moved back to Urumchi (my guess) or up to Hanchow. We might have just enough to tackle all of these units in Urumchi, but it's good defensive territory, and it'll take a while to bring air support in. Advances will stop until our AF Coy reaches Hami and we can begin to recon the situation. If this is all true, we might divert the armour heading for Hanchow once we have the dot base near it and send that down to Urumchi. That might give time to get supply built up at Hami to support these units out there in the desert.

We'd rather have Hanchow first, but there appears to be too much here to be taken by the armour and engineer units we're bringing over. Reinforcements are arriving in less than 2 weeks and should be free to move up here.

Bombing hit Kweilin hard today. About 70 hits on the field. A few P-40B came up at Changsha and were downed by the 12th Ku A6Ms. We're going to shift to the center now for a few days.

One question. How much supply does a supply hit destroy?






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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/8/2011 6:55:49 PM   
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One question. How much supply does a supply hit destroy?



Each supply (or fuel) hit destroys 1%. If you get, say, 5 hits, you don't destroy 5%. You destroy 1%, then 1% of the remainder, then 1% of the remainder, etc.

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One question. How much supply does a supply hit destroy?



Each supply (or fuel) hit destroys 1%. If you get, say, 5 hits, you don't destroy 5%. You destroy 1%, then 1% of the remainder, then 1% of the remainder, etc.


Interesting. So much still to learn.

This should mean that although I've done well bombing the airfield to 'use up supply' for the Chinese by forcing them to repair the fields, I could pick my spots better. It seems hitting larger supply production centers and places where troops are massed would make more use of supply hits by that 1% coming out of larger concentrations of supply.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/9/2011 11:12:22 PM   
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DEI: At Singapore AV is up to 3430. A few more turns and we'll begin again. Our IJA bombing is wearing down. Only 58 bombed today. Still got 15 hits. We'll start resting groups one at a time.

An annoying trend continues, with Dutch air moving to Medan and bombing HI at Georgetown. I'd just increased this and healed it up to 20. Now it's back down to 10(10) from 1 reported hit! Good shot. 42 Nates moved in. I think that should deal with this threat. I might need one small unit of 12 on night CAP based on experience as well, although moon is 17% now.

Also, a small fighter unit moved to Benkolen, where all Sumatran Dutch units have been gathering. 2 339s came up and went after our 35 Betties bombing the fields here. 2 were shot down. Again, a sweep will arrive next turn. These are all little pin ****s from the Dutch, but good actually, as it keeps me aware of what I'm not looking at without too much lost. It's teaching me to think what my opponent could do more often, rather than being stuck in what I want to do.

Cocos island was captured by paratroopers as well. As soon as one is available an AF Coy will be flown in.

PI: We're bombarding at Clark to see what the new unit is that moved in. Looks like only one. The airfield is still not being repaired and is at 61 damage.

Cagayan forces are two days from being complete.

N PAC: The I-3 ran into a 4 ship Allied TF today near Cold Bay, with at least 2 DD. I think this may be a stinger group heading to Adak, as there has been a TF unloading there. It's leaving now and the SCTF with 2 small CLs and 4 old DDs is heading over just in case this keeps coming. Our AV in the middle of the Pacific also ran into a TF in the night, but nothing is listed as seen and there was no combat. I think the planes didn't fly this turn so no searching or bombing.

S PAC: So much for stealth. The KB took out an AM and an AVD near Rarotonga today. Only 13 Kates flew, so this might make it seem like it's only a few CVs. I bet everything at Tahiti will flee though. At least subs are on station. The KB is 22 hexes from Tahiti.

Our SCTF down here also sighted two ships near Rapa. They're moving in to have a look as well.

Even if the CVs have departed, at least this gives some satisfaction for the fuel burned. It could set him back from setting up bases and search in the area for a while as well. No TF here has been detected as yet.

Burma: Betties hit one xAKL at Akyab which sank. Only about 8 of 30 flew. Must be the long distance. The commander is high leadership, inspiration and aggression, so I would think more would fly.

China: Henyang was plastered today without opposition. There are 90 fighters in Chunking though, so it looks like the whole AVG is in the area. 14 fighters are listed at Kunming and 16 at Kungchang. All raids will be massively swept and escorted for now.








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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 11:40:47 AM   
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One question. How much supply does a supply hit destroy?



Each supply (or fuel) hit destroys 1%. If you get, say, 5 hits, you don't destroy 5%. You destroy 1%, then 1% of the remainder, then 1% of the remainder, etc.


Interesting. So much still to learn.

This should mean that although I've done well bombing the airfield to 'use up supply' for the Chinese by forcing them to repair the fields, I could pick my spots better. It seems hitting larger supply production centers and places where troops are massed would make more use of supply hits by that 1% coming out of larger concentrations of supply.

Pretty sure this has been changed in the beta. Look back into the "K's" somewhere. It is now based, IIRC, on bomb size. I THINK, as it was not stated, that the 500lb/250kg bomb does the original damage. Smaller do less (prolly linear relation, but never stated).

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 1:46:36 PM   
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One question. How much supply does a supply hit destroy?



Each supply (or fuel) hit destroys 1%. If you get, say, 5 hits, you don't destroy 5%. You destroy 1%, then 1% of the remainder, then 1% of the remainder, etc.


Interesting. So much still to learn.

This should mean that although I've done well bombing the airfield to 'use up supply' for the Chinese by forcing them to repair the fields, I could pick my spots better. It seems hitting larger supply production centers and places where troops are massed would make more use of supply hits by that 1% coming out of larger concentrations of supply.

Pretty sure this has been changed in the beta. Look back into the "K's" somewhere. It is now based, IIRC, on bomb size. I THINK, as it was not stated, that the 500lb/250kg bomb does the original damage. Smaller do less (prolly linear relation, but never stated).


Thanks Pax. I'll look back into it.

I just got the next turn back from Dan and he mentioned being cautious and sending ships back out of Tahiti after he lost track of the KB near Fiji. Obviously his intuition was right on. I wonder though about his next comment. He said - "My mouse roll over shows 8 CVs and 300+ aircraft."

This is interesting as there is no search this far out from Tahiti, and none of the ships we hit would have had search planes, I'm pretty sure. No reports show being spotted or snooped by search aircraft. My KB TF shows no detection level rise.

So how do I know when we're being seen?

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One question. How much supply does a supply hit destroy?



Each supply (or fuel) hit destroys 1%. If you get, say, 5 hits, you don't destroy 5%. You destroy 1%, then 1% of the remainder, then 1% of the remainder, etc.


Interesting. So much still to learn.

This should mean that although I've done well bombing the airfield to 'use up supply' for the Chinese by forcing them to repair the fields, I could pick my spots better. It seems hitting larger supply production centers and places where troops are massed would make more use of supply hits by that 1% coming out of larger concentrations of supply.

Pretty sure this has been changed in the beta. Look back into the "K's" somewhere. It is now based, IIRC, on bomb size. I THINK, as it was not stated, that the 500lb/250kg bomb does the original damage. Smaller do less (prolly linear relation, but never stated).


Thanks Pax. I'll look back into it.

I just got the next turn back from Dan and he mentioned being cautious and sending ships back out of Tahiti after he lost track of the KB near Fiji. Obviously his intuition was right on. I wonder though about his next comment. He said - "My mouse roll over shows 8 CVs and 300+ aircraft."

This is interesting as there is no search this far out from Tahiti, and none of the ships we hit would have had search planes, I'm pretty sure. No reports show being spotted or snooped by search aircraft. My KB TF shows no detection level rise.

So how do I know when we're being seen?


You dont...

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 3:44:24 PM   
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Yeah, you really don't know.

The allies get extremely good intel. Call it stray signals, coast watchers, whatever. They will often know where you are and a good idea of your force composition. If the allied player is really good at sifting and tracking all the reports, after about 6 months he knows pretty much the entire map with about a 7 day lag. Difficult to pull all that data together cohesively, and most players don't. But they could ... you have to play the allies a few time to really understand how much intel they get in comparison to the IJ "radio signals at San Diego".

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I just got the next turn back from Dan and he mentioned being cautious and sending ships back out of Tahiti after he lost track of the KB near Fiji. Obviously his intuition was right on. I wonder though about his next comment. He said - "My mouse roll over shows 8 CVs and 300+ aircraft."

This is interesting as there is no search this far out from Tahiti, and none of the ships we hit would have had search planes, I'm pretty sure. No reports show being spotted or snooped by search aircraft. My KB TF shows no detection level rise.

So how do I know when we're being seen?


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Ok.

I'm still confused HOW we were spotted here. Is a CV TF immediately revealed if the strike aircraft hit something? At 7 or 8 hexes (280-320 NM)? No air search could have reached 22 hexes from Tahiti. I'm positive there are no subs near here in the deep South Pacific. We ran into no TFs in the night, and if we had they would have been still within range and hit during the day.

So how have we been picked up? Even Allied signal intelligence doesn't get this good does it?

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 4:07:13 PM   
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So how have we been picked up? Even Allied signal intelligence doesn't get this good does it?

Yes, it does.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 4:16:02 PM   
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If the TF(or just hex with lots of ships, I dont know which one) is big/noisy enough and/or includes certain types of ships theres a chance of it getting picked by the SigInt and placed on the map. In my current PBEM this has happened twice, both times far, far away, with just the ship icon and no other information.

In the Marianas scenario if you're playing Japanese you get 2-3 a turn of those SigInt reports and can keep a pretty good track of the massive Allied CV force as they approach, well beyond naval air search range.

Presumably the Allies get a lot, lot more information. I know theres also the "radio call" event where the player is given an exact location of some (usually important) warship.

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So how have we been picked up? Even Allied signal intelligence doesn't get this good does it?

Yes, it does.


Here are some examples:

4th Fleet is planning for an attack on Port Moresby.

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5013 men are based at Nakhon Ratchasima (58,61).

5960 men are based at Heiho (113,33).
[I have in based forces over 1000 indicators of where forces are ..]
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1st Engineer Co is located at Boela(80,110).

171st Cavalry Regiment is located at Changchun(106,41).

69th JAAF AF Bn is located at Changchun(106,41).

27th JAAF AF Bn is located at Port Blair(46,58).

11th Air Fleet is located at Saipan(108,93).

66th Infantry Regiment is located at Canton(77,59).

51st Engineer Regiment is located at Amoy(83,61).

[I also have about 800 updates of where units are exactly ..]
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Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Osaka/Kyoto (109,59).

Radio transmissions detected at Madang (97,123).

Radio transmissions detected at Takao (84,65).

Radio transmissions detected at 93,55. <----- Fleet

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Coastwatcher Report: xAK Clyde Maru reported in port at Darwin

Coastwatcher Report: harbor at Lae is reported empty

Coastwatcher Report: CL Katori reported in port at Salamaua

Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Manus

Coastwatcher sighting: 1 Japanese ship at 100,125 near Umboi Island , Speed 8 , Moving Southwest

With 180 turns of this information and plotting the force dispostions on a map I pretty much know where all the IJ forces are deployed .. Trying to fool this system can be ferreted out by looking at the forces moving, planning for attack, and where they are coming from ... Coastwatcher reports opens up possibilites for impromtou attacks ..

The KB and IJN forces remain a mystery .. this is critical of course and giving up this information completes the picture enabling Allied actions ... If I knew excatly where the KB was today I would sail something to go attack the Katori for example ..

Ok back to lurking ...

This from a complete newbie to this game but I think I have figured out how to use the Intel ...

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I think this is the biggest danger of the IJN going off on raids with the KB that only sink some xAK's and really do not advance the strategic mission.

In my limited world There are no more 'sneak' attacks after December 7th. So far every IJ move has had some hint although scattered in 6 different intelligence sources. If the AFB is willing and able they can put the puzzle together and put up an answer ..

BTW) The LYBFB's typically show the final card that acts as a deterent to action. In my game, once the KB went off raiding I executed all the prepared missions ready to go like a spring having lots of intelligence of exactly where forces were ...

I sense a very agressive and knowledgeable AFB could execute even more terror against the IJ ...

Ok back to the war and lurking ...

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 10:17:21 PM   
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Thanks for the examples crackaces. I've looked as Allies in test games but it just doesn't matter as much playing the AI. I have a fairly good feel for the kind of info the Allies get, but this in fact is the KB being 'sighted' somehow out of search range and being listed with 8 CVs and 300+ aircraft. That's fairly precise for radio intel if they picked up suppoedly the calls from aircraft attacking ships last turn.

I've been giving out signal mis-intelligence from the beginning of the game, and it's very fun to try to use the signal reports to confuse where things are heading and what is prepping for what. Some units are prepping that don't need to prep. Some are on ships going one direction that change at the last moment and go another to drop the unit elsewhere. Eventually I know the reports of 'x unit is in x base' will show up. I'm mainly interested in messing up current ops intel about where ships are heading, etc. I have also been steering clear of islands if possible in the Solomons.

Anyway. I am mostly curious if the KB will be often picked up this way as it apparently has been this time and if there is a way to thwart this kind of intel, whatever kind it is that is responsible that is.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 10:48:17 PM   
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Since all of the units I'm reporting on are operating in various parts of the map currently, I will give a more detailed report on them.

Shiranui

This Kagero class DD is still operating with the KB. Currently all ships are on high alert moving in for an attack on Tahiti, an Allied staging point in the South Pacific. The attack will occur tomorrow with both hits on the runway and on the port.





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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 10:51:57 PM   
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That is curious, obvert. Did the KB, in its meanderings in the Tahiti area, happen to enter a coastwatcher hex? I'm not sure if the Society Islands have coastwatchers since it is at the "edge" of the world and often not in play in many games.

Also, could he have put a seaplane on one of the islands near you and scoped you out that way? I know you are more than 20 from Tahiti, but you're not more than 20 from all his islands, right?

I know you said that it was unlikely a sub spotted you in your location, but it seems something did. Just because you arttacked some ships down there would not seem to be the cause of him locating the KB. Also, I agree that sigint isn't likely to give that kind of detail info on AC and ships.

Wish I could be more helpful. Perhaps someone more familar with the detailed mechanics of the game could explain this.

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This ship is moving to the south of Australia in the hope of getting into the shipping lane from Cape Town to OZ. No ships sighted out here yet. It will move to Oosthaven to refuel if nothing appears, and then try heading back out into all of that open blue.






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This ship is part of a convoy delivering 2 Naval Guard units to Rabaul. These are destined to stay in the Solomons as defensive units. The Oregon maru will most likely head back to Truk to transport resouces from Naura back to the HI.






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This group has seen little action lately. The AVG retired after it's last drubbing at the guns of the 12th Ku, and the Tainan group is giving long range escort support for bombing runs into central China.






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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 11:19:53 PM   
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Man, you've been awfully successful in southern China. I don't know how you guys do so well in China....

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This ship is shepherding a few tannkers into Balikpapan after a long journey from Nagasaki. These will load and leave if no sub activity appears n the straits. Several ASW TFs are actively searching here.






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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 11:26:37 PM   
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14th Tank Rgt

This bit of armour is heading into Burma. After capturing Rangoon our forces are resting and waiting for reinforcements before moving up to capture the oil fields and Mandalay. Leading the way will be 4 armour rgts and 2 Infantry rgts.








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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 11:28:37 PM   
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I-19

I-19 is the lone sub stationed near Pearl hoping to see something moving toward the line islands. No sightings yet.






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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/10/2011 11:33:49 PM   
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That is curious, obvert. Did the KB, in its meanderings in the Tahiti area, happen to enter a coastwatcher hex? I'm not sure if the Society Islands have coastwatchers since it is at the "edge" of the world and often not in play in many games.

Also, could he have put a seaplane on one of the islands near you and scoped you out that way? I know you are more than 20 from Tahiti, but you're not more than 20 from all his islands, right?

I know you said that it was unlikely a sub spotted you in your location, but it seems something did. Just because you arttacked some ships down there would not seem to be the cause of him locating the KB. Also, I agree that sigint isn't likely to give that kind of detail info on AC and ships.

Wish I could be more helpful. Perhaps someone more familar with the detailed mechanics of the game could explain this.


We were farther north the two previous turns, closer to an island that might have a search plane, but were definitely not sighted then, as confirmed by my opponent.

We did wipe out an AVD that turn, so it's possible there was search moving in, but it was at sea when we hit it and AVDs don't carry planes. Unless he put a few out there and was moving an AVD to go get them in working order again.

Still, no detection level rise at all.

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