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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 12:43:40 AM   
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DEI: Johore Bahru falls. All units that will join the attack on Singers are now moving here in strat. We have roughly 3500 AV ready and rested. The IJA is still hitting the airfields every turn, but due to damaged and worn out planes, we only put up 75 a day now out of about 95 possible. We'l keep going until Singapore falls though.

A TF with 3 BB bombarded Kalidjati this turn and took out 6 Martin 139s on the ground and a few fighters with a lot more damaged. About 35 (!) support squds were also hit, so not much should be flying here soon. No Palembang flights today, which is the point.

PI: Started to bomb Clark heavily, and it looks like very little of the AA is here. I thikn he's getting cozy in Bataan at the fortress and working on the defenses already. 25 Sallies went in to bomb that field and found much more resistence. Also only got about 7 hits on the field.

On Mindanao a Naval Guard is marching to Malaybalay to try and clear that base early. There is 264 AV sitting at Calagyan with our 146 AV. We have 75 AV moving in in about 4 days and will start bombing in a few turns as well.

S PAC: The KB will unite with the oilers next turn. After that it's on to Sydney. I don't expect to find much there, but it makes sense to check it out if we do go unseen. I'll try to also recon Auckland before we're sighted in case something special is there.

N PAC: I threw two subs in front of the possible path of the US CVs, but it just disappeared. I feel they might head to Pearl, so we'll have a few subs in the way there as well. All shipping has moved back to the Kuriles.

subs: We lost the I-2 on the west coast. A Dutch sub was hit critically by one DC, and it's listed as sunk. I am dubious as it launched two torps after the hit!










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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 3:15:28 AM   
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DEI: Kendari fell today to our 1 SNLF here. Macassar next, and Lautern. All mines were cleared from Balikpapan. The sub threat is still high, so we'll wait a bit before bringing in the tankers. Another sub with a penetrating hit and explosion, but we'll see if it's still in the hex at Ambon next turn.

PI: We continue to pound Clark Field. Nearly all of the available troops have arrived. Just waiting on a 48 AV engineer unit and the Tanaka Detachment. That'll bring us up to about 1200 AV. After a few more days of airstrikes we'll try a bombardment.

S PAC: The KB is refeuled and ready to go. We're aiming to try to move it near Norfolk Island, then shoot in for a raid on Sydney and Melbourne the same turn. The oilers and AMCs will move toward Noumea, covered for this turn by LR CAP. The transport are chugging up behind.

Burma: The Allies moved their remaining Burma troops into the hex at Pegu. We shocked over the river a few turns ago, but are still outnumbered and disrupted. Two more Thai divisions are no the way and three arty units are coming over as well. The IJA is bombing his stack at Pegu daily taking out 5-7 squads.










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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 2:48:32 PM   
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DEI: Bombers again hit both Batavia and Kalidjati just in case something was left there. Tomorrow we'll give them a rest and prepare for the next offensive. I am considering using them against Singapore, as I don't want the forts to go up there at all, but it's a much more well defended area and we will lose pilots there. The IJA is flying less than I would like right now due to storms and fatigue, so if we don't get at least 4 days a week hitting the fields I may resort to the IJN Netties to add a few sorties in.

The troops going toward Tarakan that have been trudging through the swamps to cross the river must have been too tired to fight once they got there. Their fatigue was not at abnormal levels, but they came in at 1 to 12 in the attack! We got a (-) for leaders and when I looked at both units I discovered that indeed they had land effectiveness in the 20s (!) and were only suitable for rear area duties. I've been diligent about finding out bad leaders and getting new ones in, but I definitely missed these two. So it's now many more turns of waiting. We're highly disrupted there but still have 70 AV to around 35 AV for the Dutch troops, so I don't think he'll be able to kick us out.

On brighter notes we captured Macassar on the first attack and acquired Lautern, finally beating the stout 2 AV base unit and an AAA unit! Air support is already in location for both spots and that will squeeze the situation tighter over the region now. Oosthaven also fell to two para-units, one that walked in from Palembang, and for some reason the Allies had left at least parts of three different bomber groups here. 9 Falcons, 4 L-212s, and 1 Martin 139 were destroyed.

PI: At Malaybalay we attacked with one Naval Guard and came up 1 to 2 but only got 8 disruption and didn't lose a squad. Those PA troops must not be so good. We'll bomb them a bit and try again. The main point is making sure nothing retreats up here from Calagyan. It'll be a few more turns before units are in place to begin attacking there.

Clark Field is a mess now thanks to several days of bombing. Bataan continues to resist attacks. Tomorrow we'll bombard the troops at Clark fro the air and from the ground as we have everything we can muster there now and want to see what the Allies have to offer for defense. My guess is 1075 AV, based on the three PA infantry units surrendered and the one that was mauled at Lingayen.

We're getting the Air HQ out of here now that all of the Allied resistance has been withdrawn. This HQa Flot will be earmarked for Ceylon later in a few months but in the meantime will move down toward Java, probably to Macassar, to help out there.

S PAC: The KB moved down south of Noumea today. There are continued reports of sightings of Allied shipping but these are very similar to sub sighting reports elsewhere, the kind that are mostly ridiculous, like "9 Allied ships sighted moving at 13 knots near Kwajalein." If these are sub sightings they could know we're down here. We'll know very soon.

There appear to be no aircraft at Noumea, so at least that is good, and we're less worried about the amphibious convoy moving down just after. Assuming we don't find anything spectacular in OZ, the KB will move back immediately to support the landing in New Caledonia. No sight of anything near NZ or Fiji. Still a lot of activity around Tahiti, but our sub has moved a few hexes off after being continually attacked a few days ago.

China: The AVG and the first sighting of a Chinese fighter unit showed up at Changsha today. Luckily we had multiple sweeps going in or our bombers would have fared very badly. As it was, we took down 4 P-40Bs and 3 I-15s for the loss of 6 Oscar Ia (4 ops) and 2 Oscar Ic. We also lost 4 Sally Ic there. Our pilot quality is still much better. The Oscar Ia will be moved out immediately as they are just as bad as the Nates against fighters. Only the Ics and the small Tojo unit will fly sweeps or escort up here. I don't want to give any pilots extra kills and exp. This turn we will only use the 30 plane Ic unit to sweep Changsha.

N PAC: Pickets are moving out to look for potential CV raids. Nervous about the sudden quiet up here. The Mavis unit from Adak mostly moved back to the Kuriles. There are still two at Adak, but they see nothing. The small Betty detachment of 2 is moving into Wake today to help extend the search up here, and soon there will be a presence at Marcus as well. Since the KB will be well marked in the next few days I know the Allies could commit the CVs somewhere for a raid. Unfortunately I can't get the Claudes to upgrade yet at Roi-Namur in spite of the HQ there and plenty of supply. There are enough in the pools now as well to fill out the group. Hmm.










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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 2:56:09 PM   
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Try moving the Claudes to Truk.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 3:00:31 PM   
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Thanks Mike I'll give that a try.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 3:02:48 PM   
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They are a pain in the butt to upgrade. Do you have a carrier in the area? You can fly them to the carrier and move the carrier toward Truk, then fly them off when they are in range.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 3:20:59 PM   
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Well, no not exactly. They're all with the KB near OZ or with the Mini in the DEI. What is it 23-24 hexes to Truk from Roi Naumur? Will they do that with tanks? I only ever use them for training so I forget all details about them.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 6:28:47 PM   
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So after getting home and checking I realized the Claudes won't get to Truk even with tanks. I can stage them through Ponape, but there is already a group at Truk that won't upgrade either. Silliness.

The KB does have a 1/1 detection rating this turn. What exactly does this mean? What will the Allies know about the ships here? When I see bases around the map with a 1/0, a 1/2, or some small detection like that it usually means I can see that there are ships or aircraft or both in the base, but not at all what kind. For ships is this just that there might be the symbol of a fleet on the map but no knowledge of the kind of ships?

It would be useful to know because if we book it to Sydney now, we might get close enough to strike this turn and have complete surprise. If we wait another turn or two though we might get lost in the gap between the NZ and OZ search arcs. Now, it's one thing to lose a ship symbol one knows in an enemy fleet. It's another to lose a fleet one knows has CVs in it.

Any thoughts about 1/1 detection and the reliability of seeing the KB at this level?





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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 8:22:11 PM   
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Well, no not exactly. They're all with the KB near OZ or with the Mini in the DEI. What is it 23-24 hexes to Truk from Roi Naumur? Will they do that with tanks? I only ever use them for training so I forget all details about them.


You'll need to put a base force at Ponape and then fly them from Roi Naumur to Ponape and then from there to Truk. You can also put them on an xAK but I think that's too dangerous.

Edit: I just saw your last post. Some people move them back to the Home Islands to upgrade but I've never had to do that.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 8:41:44 PM   
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You'll need to put a base force at Ponape and then fly them from Roi Naumur to Ponape and then from there to Truk. You can also put them on an xAK but I think that's too dangerous.

Edit: I just saw your last post. Some people move them back to the Home Islands to upgrade but I've never had to do that.


I'm flying a part of the Roi-Namur Air HQ to Ponape for the transfer. I've already sent them to Ponape, and I'll hope that at Truk something will happen. As usual I need it to happen NOW but with this game I'm becoming much more patient. Also, I have another Air HQ at Rabaul, and if it doesn't transform at Truk, I wonder if it would go there with the Air HQ.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 10/31/2011 8:46:11 PM   
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People have said that they had luck upgrading the unit at Rabaul.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/1/2011 12:09:32 PM   
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Detection Levels: Well I got my answer from my opponent in an email. He says he has seen a TF 'possibly' with CVs in it, and questions why so many IJ players attack the OZ coastline. Also he questions why Allied players keep vital shipping there. This is either a ploy to get me not to attack, or a smirk that he's prepared for the eventuality. The KB has sighted some shipping down here this turn but didn't attack at 9 hexes. Now that the ruse is up we'll hit the nearby TFs, possibly hit Auckland, but may skip OZ altogether.

China: The AVG showed up in force today and did its job well by popping over to Kweilin and putting a LR CAP over Liuchow. In spite of sweeps ahead of the bombers two groups of Lily got mauled at Kweilin. 22 destroyed!! Ouch! Some pilots only missing though, so maybe they'll come back one day dusty and worn from walking 120 miles. The fighters did well and got an even 2 for 2 exchange, but I fear we've just made some good exp pilots and an ace or two for the AVG.

Two large zero groups are moving into China, including the Tainan group. Sweeps over Liuchow will continue tomorrow, but bombing will take a rest for at least a day in this area. As I'm only concerned with killing supply and troops, some bombing will hit Sian, which we haven't touched as yet, coming behind two separate sweeps and escorted just in case. 11 fighters are listed there but nothing has come up as yet.

DEI: More sweeps and 3 Dutch fighters down. The IJA hit Singers for 25 field, 4 supply, and 6 base hits. Units are nearly all in Johore for the attack commencing around the 15th. The Division and Guard Rgt that took Palembang are loading for a landing on Java since Dutch air is so anaemic and there is no naval presence to speak of. All I want to do here is create a beach head and take a few nearby bases before more units arrive to march on Soerbaja. I'd like to cut the rail lines, but we'll see if the resistance on Java allows that to happen. Air support will come from the Mini-KB and LBA from Oosthaven and Macassar.

Burma: The Thai Divs are on their way to Pegu, but moving slowly. There is no air presence here so we're bombing at will. I'm feeling nervous about this though and another fighter group will move to Chang Mai to support.







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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/1/2011 12:42:44 PM   
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Hi obvert. Interesting game so far. A few comments from the peanut gallery.

I am curious about your opponent's comments concerning KB, especially about Oz. Maybe he doesn't realize the ability of the Allies to bomb the southern DEI oil fields early from the north coast. Again, it may be plot to turn your attention elsewhere. In Jan 42, given sufficient precautions on the Japanese side, I don't think there is an area that can protect itself from the might of KB.

I'm curious to see what Tainan Air Group can do against the AVG. I don't recall reading an AAR where those two clashed, but I don't read most AARs so it probably has happened before. Keep one thing in mind. Since you know the the AVG is in China, you know it is not in Burma. Use that to your advantage. Have you taken Pt. Blair yet? If not, that's a great base to station an IJNAF Air Flotilla. It can keep the RN at bay for a long time.

In Java, I recommend landing at Kaldjati. It has a nice level 4 airfield and if you move SW 1 hex to Bandoeng, you cut Java in half. Granted the port is only level 1, but since you're using amphibious TFs, it doesn't matter. The idea is to get a bridgehead, and I think that's the ideal place.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/1/2011 1:18:34 PM   
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You can also put them on an xAK but I think that's too dangerous.


I do. I send a Kyushu with an E escort and then haul them back. Expensive in fuel and takes time, but that group is too valuable to sit. Less time than hauling a base force to Ponape, and I can never find one of those that aren't committed to the offensive. So, while I hate putting the group on an xAK, for me, it is always the cheapest, quickest, surest option.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/1/2011 8:56:55 PM   
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Hi obvert. Interesting game so far. A few comments from the peanut gallery.

I am curious about your opponent's comments concerning KB, especially about Oz. Maybe he doesn't realize the ability of the Allies to bomb the southern DEI oil fields early from the north coast. Again, it may be plot to turn your attention elsewhere. In Jan 42, given sufficient precautions on the Japanese side, I don't think there is an area that can protect itself from the might of KB.

I'm curious to see what Tainan Air Group can do against the AVG. I don't recall reading an AAR where those two clashed, but I don't read most AARs so it probably has happened before. Keep one thing in mind. Since you know the the AVG is in China, you know it is not in Burma. Use that to your advantage. Have you taken Pt. Blair yet? If not, that's a great base to station an IJNAF Air Flotilla. It can keep the RN at bay for a long time.

In Java, I recommend landing at Kaldjati. It has a nice level 4 airfield and if you move SW 1 hex to Bandoeng, you cut Java in half. Granted the port is only level 1, but since you're using amphibious TFs, it doesn't matter. The idea is to get a bridgehead, and I think that's the ideal place.


Thanks for the comments!

In terms of N OZ, I do plan to take that as soon as Java is done. The Allies have already shown a propensity for bombing Oil, and I'm not interested in that happening in 42 if I can help it. I do wonder if there are some nice juicy tankers or something in Sydney he's trying to steer me away from. I've decided to go for Auckland first because it's close and also the KB is closer to supporting the landing in La Foa. I do have a lot of subs on the approaches to Sydney as well. So hopefully there are a few ships there.

I had one group of zeros in China earlier and they handled the AVG so well he withdrew and rebuilt them for over two weeks. Now they are back with better planes and I'm assuming the best pilots he can muster. So yes, this will be a clash of the best we have to offer.

Port Blair is ours and building up. Mavis are there now and I've just been hitting the xAKLs trying to sneak into Rangoon with Betties from Bangkok. An Air HQ is on the way and will either go to Port Blair or Rangoon.

I like hitting Kalidjati, but I've just trashed the place hitting his bombers that were doing night raids on Palembang. It has 75 field damage and 56 to the port. The two bases in the middle, Semarang and Tjepoe, have been reconned and appear to be vacant. I'm sending a fast transport to each with an SNLF unit. Then the Division and support will move in. The SNLFs will hope to cut the rail at Soerakarta one hex from each of the landings. If we can accomplish this it'll make any defense much harder, so hopefully it'll all go faster.

I just go the 163 AV amphibious brigade at Samah and that will first go to Calagyan to hopefully end things there for the Allies, then on to Java if that goes well.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/1/2011 9:02:54 PM   
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You can also put them on an xAK but I think that's too dangerous.



I do. I send a Kyushu with an E escort and then haul them back. Expensive in fuel and takes time, but that group is too valuable to sit. Less time than hauling a base force to Ponape, and I can never find one of those that aren't committed to the offensive. So, while I hate putting the group on an xAK, for me, it is always the cheapest, quickest, surest option.

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I just hate to put anything on a ship to upgrade it, but I guess that might be closer to reality for hat the Japanese had to do.

It's in Truk now after stopping off in Ponape (assisted by 2 air support squads, a fragment flown in from Roi-Namur) and if that doesnt cut it after a week, I'll send them to Rabaul where there is an Air HQ, a Naval HQ, 70,000 supply, and where the field will be a 4 approaching 5 by then.

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I just hate to put anything on a ship to upgrade it, but I guess that might be closer to reality for hat the Japanese had to do.


Not saying I like it either. But you're already Jan, I sent the Kyushu on 8 Dec (with a load of supply) and have the claudes back in HI well before Christmas. I think the round trip is 10 days or something like that. Anyway, however you do it, you have to upgrade these and get them into the fight. A6M2 groups are too scarce in 41/42 to leave one sitting.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/2/2011 8:36:18 PM   
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Not saying I like it either. But you're already Jan, I sent the Kyushu on 8 Dec (with a load of supply) and have the claudes back in HI well before Christmas. I think the round trip is 10 days or something like that. Anyway, however you do it, you have to upgrade these and get them into the fight. A6M2 groups are too scarce in 41/42 to leave one sitting.

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I think you're convincing me here. Also, the US Cvs are now down 8-10 hexes south of Canton Island. That is also convincing me that I need that group able to move into the Gilberts and defend a CV raid.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/2/2011 9:19:39 PM   
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Dan Nichols: I'm starting to get a better feel for my opponent now. Tactically he is aggressive but rarely careless with his forces. Strategically he is making many choices to fall back to lines of defense and not offer strong resistance now in early 42. He can surprise, but I'm starting to get a feel for how his surprises work. I keep running one of Nemos quotes through my head. It's something like; "very often I let my opponent think he is taking advantage of my position and my strategies, but in fact it is my strategy to make him think so."

In China recons have been probing the defenses and have found that there are some massive stacks at Changsha, Henyang, and just north of Nanyang on the road to Sian in the forests. Other smaller stacks (usually of 5 units) control the yellow road approaches to Sian. I'm going to try and make him think these areas are stymying our progress while in actuality I think the large stacks will reduce his supply flow and make it easier for me to move where the stacks are not.

In the Pacific I will encourage his CVs to keep coming out to play by leaving some tidbits for them to pounce on and sounding very depressed about this in emails back to him. I'm actually quite happy to know where some of them are right now and hope I can keep tabs on them into the future. There is also the chance to create the impression the KB is in one place while it's in another. After the Java operation the Mini-KB will disappear. The KB will disappear after the taking of Noumea. When they reappear, there is a chance he could be confused about which is which and stage a raid somewhere. At least this is something I would like to try out.

China: The AVG came up without the Chinese at Kweilin today. We sent in the 15th Ku S-1, another strong and experienced group, to sweep at 20,000. It was a very one-sided battle. Almost no attacks were even made on a zero during the replay. He lost 11-0 plus a few more in ops losses. Hopefully we took out some of those newly experienced pilots from last turn's debacle. Bombers hit Sian and a few other bases we haven't attacked before and were unopposed.

S PAC: The KB hit Auckland, which was like using a sledghammer to crack an egg. The only ships reported there were 2 AMcs and an AE. At least we sunk these. No losses to the air groups. Now on to se what's in Suva while the troops head in to La Foa.

Two anonymous US CVs, most likely the Enterprise and the Lexington that were hiding down south here, hit my two DDs heading to raid Tahiti. One was sunk, the other came away unscathed. I began moving most of the important stuff away from Canton, the Gilberts, and the Marshalls. Pickets are out, subs are moving to get in the way, and search is searching.

N PAC: A sub surfaced and sank an xAKL at Cold Bay with its gun. Must nt be any more BBs around. 2 more are on the way a day or two out.

DEI: The Java invasion force is closing in. One of the fast transport groups will land tomorrow at Tjepoe. The other the next day at Semarang. Mini-KB is cover.

At Singers there is a bit more than I'd thought. We have 4100 AV sitting in Johore. I'll cross with only full DIVs, arty and big combat engineer groups. Tanks, regiments, small engineers groups, etc, will follow a few turns later if they look to be needed. The first crossing should be about 3400 AV.

PI: We bombarded this turn. It looks like only the PA troops are in Clark with 2 tank units. Only just over 700 AV. We have about 1125 AV. These troops shouldn't be of the best quality, and one PA DIV has already been mauled once. After another day of bombardment fro the air to raise disruption, we're going to deliberate attack. I'm wondering why the Marines are not here?









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11 Jan 1942

A quiet turn today mostly. Most of the Allies air disappeared again. The only losses he suffered were Dutch patrols hit by the mini-KB.

DEI: An SNLF landed at Tjepoe. There is no unit here, as suspected. Two ground units suddenly appeared at Semarang. Not sure if this was due to some intel he received, but I've changed all of my TFs to land at Tjepoe now. Soerakarta is empty as well, and unless he was in process of moving there, the 1st Raiding Rgt should land and take the base tomorrow. Another Naval Guard, an AF Coy, an engineer unit, and a Division will land tomorrow. In about a week's time we could have 1,000 AV here, which if our rail blockade works out, could threaten Soerbaja. All ground units in nearby hexes are scheduled to be bombed tomorrow if the weather holds, (it's light overcast now).

PI: Tomorrow we will deliberate attack. I'm excited to see how this goes. I'd like to get this part over so we can use Clark, get the airforce shifted there, free up the Air HQ on Formosa, and try to keep bombing to kill supply and fort building.

China: The AVG went home again. There are 24 fighters listed in Kunming, so I think this is one of the groups. Our bombings of Yenan and nanning went well. We've been reconning all over the approaches to Sian. It seems most of the blockades are 5-6 units, which I'm guessing would be an HQ and 4-5 corps. Maybe about 750-850 AV? The current plan is to rail about 2,500 AV with 5 artillery and an HQ to Taiyuan, and from there walk to the first blockade 4 hexes down the yellow road. I haven't seen any recon going on in China by the Allies, so hopefully this would go unnoticed. A large force of about 2,000 AV will go to Nanayang to keep pressure there and hopefully make it look like we want to move this way.





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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/3/2011 9:36:30 PM   
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Where are they and what are they doing?

Tainan Ku S-1

This group has 36 kills from the Phillipines and DEI and has moved in range of China at Samah. The Canton airfield is almost up to 5 and once that happens and another base force moves in there they will get closer to the action. This group will stay in China for a while to combat the AVG as all other British resistance has moved out of Burma and the Dutch are being handled by smaller units there now. This group is made for sweeps, and can take on several Allied groups at once.

We haven't needed to CAP anything in China so far which frees up a lot of planes to fly full group sweeps. Size does matter.

DD Shiranui

She is hanging out with the KB heading toward Fiji. She has seen no surface action or sub attacks so far.

I-19

This sub is making the long journey to the Society Islands to search for convoys, based on sightings and attacks on another sub near Tahiti.

xAK Oregon Maru

A flood of troops for the Central and South Pacific are arriving in a few days, and this ship will help bring them to their defensive posts in the Gilberts or the Solomons.

PB Nagato Maru

This ship is just being formed into a TF escorting several of the slower tankers to the DEI. Subs are still a menace, but most are focused near Java right now.

14th Tank Regiment

This armour unit will be railing over to Pisanuloke to head into Burma with one other tank unit. There is a stalemate at Pegu that some armour might just solve.

Hokoku Maru

This ship is heading into the deep recesses o the Pacific to hunt convoys. She is with a group of oilers now skirting above NZ and will release into the open after a few days when past the search arcs. From that point she will head toward OZ with another AMC along the southern reaches of the map and look to move into the area convoys from Cape Town would use to move to OZ. Another AMC and a few DDs, plus an AV will also move into this role but might search areas in the Eastern Pacific.






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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/3/2011 9:41:11 PM   
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You still have a few months, but check your reinforcement queue. You get parts of 2 Japanese "tank" divisions that arrive assigned to Kwantung Army. They combine with some tank regiments in the SRA. You'll need PPs and vehicle points for this. You'll need to decide where you want to assign them. I like to send them to Burma. Just a thought.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/4/2011 5:36:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

You still have a few months, but check your reinforcement queue. You get parts of 2 Japanese "tank" divisions that arrive assigned to Kwantung Army. They combine with some tank regiments in the SRA. You'll need PPs and vehicle points for this. You'll need to decide where you want to assign them. I like to send them to Burma. Just a thought.

They are also almost invincible in China if your plan to take China out of the war ....

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/4/2011 10:02:10 AM   
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I've bought out all of the beginning tanks from Manchuria and sent them north to quickly get to Lanchow and Urumchi, take all places north and get that out of the way. Then they will roll down into the area near Sian hopefully to create a threat to the rear of his main blockades. I've pumped a lot of supply into China through Tsingtsao and Tiensian so far, and I'm storing some in the far north to release if it gets low out on the roads.

Also there is an AF Coy marching out to set up in Kiuchuan to LR CAP things if his bombers out there get pesky. Once all of those ops are either considered done or not worth pursuing any longer, we will concentrate on Sian and that area with the current troops in northern China. Some of the troops in Singers, the troops in the PI (assuming that finishes up before May), and any other free or newly bought out units will move toward the Nanning-Liuchow area and attack there. Hopefully can keep bombing the Nanning airfield to keep the high levels of damage there. It's at 92 damage now. Just want to keep the AVG out, forts unbuilt and supply used to fix it.

The remainder of troops from Singers will head to clean up Burma should that be necessary, but before the amphibious bonus has run out I'll need 4-5 divisions to hit Ceylon quickly and decisively. I'll move those out once it's done, then keep smaller units there to hold on. Independent brigades and regiments and a number of SNLF and Naval Guard units plus support. The Ceylon troops will go back to Burma and then try to climb the mountains to Kunming and take the whole Burma road area.

I think the next big armour units arrive in about a month, if I remember rightly. Those will join the forces near Yenan trying to break through to Sian, assuming we're still pushing through there.

That's the plan. It's developing over time as we see his strategy and focus on defense. I've also just read Miller's thread about big losses in the rough woods of China, so I'm going to try to avoid any massive stacks for now and see if by flanking them we can get them to move.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

I've bought out all of the beginning tanks from Manchuria and sent them north to quickly get to Lanchow and Urumchi, take all places north and get that out of the way. Then they will roll down into the area near Sian hopefully to create a threat to the rear of his main blockades. I've pumped a lot of supply into China through Tsingtsao and Tiensian so far, and I'm storing some in the far north to release if it gets low out on the roads.


Ahhh, ok, so you are on a "China First" strategy. Great. Want to watch. Don't disagree with this approach at all as it has a number of merits.

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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/4/2011 11:57:25 PM   
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13 Jan 1942

(Missed the 12th somehow. Not much happened I guess. Can't say that today)

The opening of the turn replay has become a morning ritual. Living in London, (while Dan lives in Colorado), means that I work during my evening and send him the turn usually sometime before 8pm my time, or 1-2 pm his time. His turn arrives back to me usually sometime at 1-3am my time, and so far I've been resisting the rather strong urge to wake up to watch the replay. So in the morning I check the message, try not to be alarmed by anything cryptic or leading he's written, and load up the game. I usually end up watching as I have my first few sips of coffee, so I'm not yet fully functioning.

This morning I went through this same routine except for one little change. Just as the first amphibious transports were unloading happily and the beeps and clicks of the morse were taking me into the Pacific night I had a sudden shock. There, just in the middle of the replay window, was the USS Yorktown. Sounds of torpedoes swished through the digital water and just as I was about to jump out of my chair, the message read 'Hit. Failed to detonate.' A lot more happened, but it took me a long while to hit escape and continue the turn after seeing the report of 6 torpedoes fired, no hits.

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Sub attack near Alliford Bay at 199,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown
DD Cummings
DD Cassin
DD Tucker
DD Smith

SS I-7 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Yorktown
I-7 diving deep ....
DD Cassin fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tucker fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Smith fails to find sub, continues to search...

Escort abandons search for sub
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N PAC: I thought I was playing Japan? This is the second or third dud attack for our subs.

All of this was set up by his raid into the Aleutians with Yorktown and Saratoga. Several Glen subs were moved into possible routes to Hawaii or the West Coast. I thought he must have skirted past these scouts, as it's been a while, but then, today. There is a 3 ship TF listed in the hex with the sub. it says TK, but we're sending both area subs in the direction of Puget Sound to see if we run into anything else in the night.

To make things worse, I-4 ran into a mine at Cold Bay and has 92 Flood damage. Don't think she's going to make Adak.

S PAC: The KB is moving toward Fiji. We have to try it out since we're here, but I predict not more than two or three support ships will be in harbor. All raiding TFs are converging for a last fueling north of NZ out of sight. Several subs around Tahiti are noticing a lot of action there.

The 144th Infantry Rgt landed at La Foa today as well.

DEI: The 38th Division landed at Tjepoe. The SNLF will head for Soerakarta immediately to support the 1st Raiding Rgt, which para-landed and took the base unchallenged. Two more SNLFs are on the way in the next 2 days. When those arrive the 38th Div will march toward Soerabaja. Eighteen zeros flew in to provide CAP.

Our troops began marching on Singapore today. HQ decided it would be best to send in all Divs and Regiments. There are 7 divisions, 5 regiments, 3 independent engineer units, and 14 artillery units marching in.

PI: Our first attack at Clark came out 1 to 2, but the forts went to 2 and the PA troops died in bunches. Most of our casualties were only disabled, but one tank unit was almost obliterated. Rest up, rewind, play again.

China: Bombing continued unopposed all over China.

Burma: Pegu fell today to a group of 4 Thai Divs and an IJA Rgt. This is great, as after a few resting days, Rangoon is the next stop. The armour should arrive in a week, and a new Guards Rgt just arrived, so that will come to Burma as well.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 13, 42
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Amphibious Assault at Tjepoe (54,103)

TF 90 troops unloading over beach at Tjepoe, 54,103

Japanese ground losses:
346 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 38th Div /5
10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 38th Div /6
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 38th Div /7
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 38th Div /7
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 38th Div /8
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 38th Div /8


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Amphibious Assault at La Foa (114,159)

TF 167 troops unloading over beach at La Foa, 114,159

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



8 Aviation Support troops lost overboard during unload of 32nd JAAF AF Coy
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /2
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /2
10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /2
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /3
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /3

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Morning Air attack on Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion, at 53,102 (Semarang)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet



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Morning Air attack on 1st Chinese Corps, at 86,41 , near Loyang

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion, at 53,102 (Semarang)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
G3M2 Nell x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
24 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb


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Morning Air attack on Loemafjang Base Force, at 54,104 (Madioen)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 27
G4M1 Betty x 25



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Subic Bay Defenses , at 79,76 (Clark Field)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 22
G4M1 Betty x 59

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
22 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 31st PA Infantry Division ...
Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...


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Morning Air attack on Semarang , at 53,102

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet


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Morning Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 3

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 81st Chinese Corps, at 87,31 , near Ningsia

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 24



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 11th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 81st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 11th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 81st Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 9
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 23
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 49
Ki-44 Tojo x 7



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3


No Japanese losses


Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 1st Chinese Corps, at 86,41 , near Loyang

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 18
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 4



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 52nd Chinese Corps, at 72,55 (Nanning)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 9th Chinese Base Force ...
Also attacking 52nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 9th Chinese Base Force ...
Also attacking 52nd Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Nanning , at 72,55

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Nanning , at 72,55

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 20



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Nanning , at 72,55

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Burma Division, at 55,53 (Pegu)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Railway BAF Battalion ...
Also attacking 1st Burma Division ...


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Morning Air attack on BFF Brigade, at 55,53 (Pegu)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 28



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
28 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Chinese Corps, at 86,41 , near Loyang

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 6



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 23
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 43
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 8 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Subic Bay Defenses , at 79,76 (Clark Field)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Donggala at 68,99

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Do-24K-1 x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kashiwa Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Taihei Maru



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Do-24K-1 bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 300 kg SAP Bomb
3 x Do-24K-1 bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 300 kg SAP Bomb



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Sub attack near Iba at 78,74

Japanese Ships
xAK Misaki Maru
xAK Hukuzyu Maru
xAK Ohio Maru
PB Tama Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-41



SS S-41 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Misaki Maru
S-41 diving deep ....
PB Tama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31784 troops, 339 guns, 598 vehicles, Assault Value = 1172

Defending force 21029 troops, 360 guns, 445 vehicles, Assault Value = 780

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 568

Allied adjusted defense: 1327

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1425 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 57 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled
Vehicles lost 134 (36 destroyed, 98 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
566 casualties reported
Squads: 44 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 29 (4 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)


Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Engineer Co
65th Brigade
8th Tank Regiment
48th Division
16th Engineer Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
21st PA Infantry Division
Subic Bay Defenses
14th PS Engineer Regiment
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
31st PA Infantry Division
3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion
192nd Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
11th PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Constabulary Regiment
Clark Field USAAF Base Force
I Philippine Corps
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment


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Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 27617 troops, 269 guns, 111 vehicles, Assault Value = 982

Defending force 14892 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 480



Assaulting units:
15th Division
22nd Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
13th Army
4th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
3rd War Area
25th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3959 troops, 32 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 235

Defending force 7901 troops, 50 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 281



Assaulting units:
146th Infantry Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
Kure 2nd SNLF

Defending units:
3rd/101st PA Battalion
103rd PA Infantry Regiment
3rd PA Constabulary Regiment
1st /101st PA Battalion
102nd PA Infantry Division
Cagayan USAAF Base Force
III Philippine Corps


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Ground combat at Pegu (55,53)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15209 troops, 191 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 558

Defending force 11154 troops, 82 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 356

Japanese adjusted assault: 132

Allied adjusted defense: 24

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pegu !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
597 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
4361 casualties reported
Squads: 255 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 221 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 39 (39 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (22 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
112th Infantry Regiment
2nd RTA Division
4th RTA Division
7th RTA Division
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Railway BAF Battalion
3rd Burma Rifles Battalion
1st Gloucestershire Battalion
4th Burma Rifles Battalion
BFF Brigade
1st Burma Division


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Ground combat at Donggala (68,99)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 312 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 5

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Donggala !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
3rd JNAF Coy


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Ground combat at Tjepoe (54,103)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 998 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 29

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 29 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tjepoe !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
Sasebo 8th SNLF
38th Div /10
4th JAAF AF Coy /1
47th Const Co /1


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Ground combat at Koepang (68,116)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 443 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Defending force 2338 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 69



Assaulting units:
Timor Garrison Battalion
Dili Detachment
Koepang Base Force

Defending units:
Kimura Det


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Ground combat at Soerakarta (53,103)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 197 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 12

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Soerakarta !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)


Assaulting units:
1st Raiding
Rgt /1







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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) v... - 11/5/2011 12:46:05 AM   
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I love it when just "another turn replay" turns into a soda spitting wtf moment when a big fat enemy carrier shows up on your screen with the sound of torpedos in the water.

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quote:

I love it when just "another turn replay" turns into a soda spitting wtf moment when a big fat enemy carrier shows up on your screen with the sound of torpedos in the water.


It's a lot better when there is a hit invlolved. C'est La Guerre.

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DEI: Everything has landed on Java now. All is going to plan except some more night bombing of oil going on by the Dutch. No hits this time. There's not much here, so I'm not that concerned. The Mini-KB is moving out of sub alley and once all of the supply is loaded in all amphib and ASW TFs will leave. An SNLF should make it to Soerakarta in 3 more days, so I think the rail blockade will work. No sign of movement by Dutch land forces.

We'll try again at Tarakan this turn. Yesterday the attack came out 1 to 1, the forts went to 0 and our disruption is very light.

PI: Additional forces have moved into Cagayan, so tomorrow we'll deliberate attack. We only have a slight edge in numbers, but there is a huge difference in quality I hope will carry the battle.

Forces are still resting up at Clark It'll be a few more days before anything more happens here. Interestingly, the fields are not being repaired. I think all engineers are in Bataan loading sandbags and pouring concrete.

China: Two Chinese fighter groups came up at Sian to test the waters today. Bad timing. We had 12 Oscar 1cs sweeping as well as 25 crack zeros from the 15th Ku T-1. Five I-15 and 3 I-16 were shot down for no losses (other than the few ops that accompany every turn for the japanese air forces).

There is some movement of troops that look to be coing out of Nanyang toward Changsha. Scary, as these are the two big stacks of 15 units each. Some forces are redeploying back to prepare in case this is an offensive action. The IJA should have enough mobility along the rail lines now to meet any threat to Central China. In 18 days a bunch of base garrison forces will arrive that will free up two more divisions for central defense reserve. I'm hoping nothing big happens before that, but if it does, I can't believe the Chinese would have enough supply to do much. None of the Changsha industry is being repaired, and since we've been hitting several airfields each day, a lot of supply must be going to rebuilding. Also, nothing seems to have been brought in through Rangoon, which will hurt later I'm thinking.

S PAC: The KB didn't get close enough to hit Suva, so it will happen tomorrow. All of the small raiding parties are splitting off in different directions after a last fueling north of NZ. Not sure if any will ever return, but it's worth a shot. I think he'll most likely at some point get signet reports of ships at the far edge of the map and come to check them out.

On its way back north the KB might swing by Pago Pago for a little hit to delay things building there. It's not far out of the way, and since a sub just ran into an old DD there, something is happening in the area. It'd be nice to scare a few convoys back from Tahiti as well, so that maybe there would be a buildup we could hit as the raiders get there in a week or so. This group will have an AV and the Jakes will be set to attack at 1,000ft.

Burma: All of the units at Pegu are healing up before a move into Rangoon. Some if not all forces from Rangoon are moving out as well. We continue to bomb them. No air protection in sight.




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PI: At Cagayan the attack came off at 1 to 2. The Allies had more destroyed troops, but plenty of ours were disabled, so it'll be another wait. At Batangas a big 30AV base force is unloading to go to Manilla. This will free up one more small Recon unit to go into battle at Clark in a few days. Interestingly something is moving from Bataan to Clark. Maybe he's realized we didn't bring much and if all of the troops were there, they could stand for a while. Which is probably true.

DEI: The troops going into Singapore are one day out. All are in combat mode. About 3,900 AV should be going in. I wish more of our bombers were flying to hit the fields here, but once the moral got low due to damaged planes, it's only been every few turns that they go.

At Tarakan we got another 1 to 1 result. Those Dutch are tough here, for some reason, whereas everywhere else but Lautern they've been a walkover. At least these troops are here still and didn't go to Soerabaja or Batavia.

The mini-KB is almost at Balikpapan where it will refuel and then 'disappear' for a while.

China: The AVG and a Chinese group arrived in Wenchow and took out some nells and Kates there. We lost 3 kates and 6 Nells, but at least only 4 pilots. Still more fighter units are flying in today. The main focus for bombing tomorrow is Kweilin. We've not hit this one much as the AVG has used it to pop in from the north a few times. So this time there are 4 sweeps on and every bomber within range is going to hit it.

S PAC: 89 Kates on Port attack failed to hit whatever is creating the anchor symbol at Suva. Must not be many ships there. On to Pago Pago. Nothing will be there either, but it's on the way back to Truk, and the airfield just went to 2, so it would be nice to just slow that process down a little. Still more activity around Tahiti, with at least one ASW group active and another 4 ship TF listing a CA and an AK.

subs: Sub attacks exploded all over the map today for some reason. An Allied sub even took a shot at I-124 near Ternate. Missed, luckily. Not that my subs are doing anything anyway. I-7 was sunk near Vancouver island while retreating back to a patrol position after the Yorktown attack. This is the second sub so far sunk in deep water by the Allies, where even though I attack at least one sub a day, almost always in shallow water or coastal hexes, I've probably seen two that looked like they might actually go down. Today our ASW forces hit 5 different subs, but two of them still made an attack after the DCing! One APD was lost leaving Tjepoe, and we got one xAK outside Calcutta.

Playing Japan previously I've had complete confidence that subs would play a large positive role for the IJN. In this game the tables are turned. The Allied subs have been much stronger and have survived many attacks by ASW. We haven't given up yet, but it's discouraging that one of my favorite parts of the game is going so poorly. It would help if there were ships to hit I guess. Nothing has moved into or out of Sydney, Perth, PH, or Colombo that we've seen since stationing subs at each of those ports.





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