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Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kamil (GER) - 9/20/2011 4:55:36 PM   
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We decided to end our previous and start new game and main reason to do so was new patch. Encircled forces were much more superior to my, but thanks to abandoning summer offensive, adopting tactics of mixed defence (line + strong-points) and limited withdrawals I kept my army strong, and greatly limited number of successful Soviet attacks.

We both agreed, that I lost this game, but under new rules it would take ages (I guess 50+ turns, or maybe even more) for Soviet army to be able to push me out of my forts without +1 rule. So only option left was starting once again. Rules are the same - full FOW and random weather (I pray for more luck and no bugs this time )






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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 9:36:08 PM   
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Turn 1

Classic opening - Lvov Gambit.






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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 9:37:58 PM   
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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 9:47:09 PM   
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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 9:48:09 PM   
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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 9:52:02 PM   
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I decided to avoid assaulting strong Soviet defences north of Bug. Without infantry chance of creating decent pocket (with good logistic supply) is minimal - time and petrol are crucial, so maybe next turn.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 10:01:41 PM   
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I am waiting for infantry and petrol to arrive.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 10:03:09 PM   
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I am pushing a bit, but maintaining high level of supply has priority.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 10:07:32 PM   
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Situation in the south is a bit self-perpetuating. Encircled's defences are very good, so I can't create proper pocket without infantry support, so to not waste precious time I bypass Soviet defences, so infantry lags behind, so I lack proper infantry support next turn.






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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 10:21:27 PM   
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Infantry is almost there so I hope to be able to restart my advance next turn.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 10:23:10 PM   
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Patiently waiting for my footmen.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 10:25:55 PM   
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River is close, so I guess I will have to start fighting soon.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/20/2011 10:26:51 PM   
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No pockets = problem.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/28/2011 3:35:25 PM   
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Encircled's defences are looking stronger with every passing turn, so arrival of infantry didn't have as big impact as I hoped.

1 build-up




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/28/2011 3:37:55 PM   
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Very good situation in the centre. River crossed in two places. South bridgehead is rather symbolic but northern is very promising. Infantry and tanks are eager and ready for action.\

1 build-up (near Smolensk)






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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/28/2011 3:40:51 PM   
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My boys and their gear are across the river. Panzers have plenty of petrol and are in good condition, only but big problem is lack of infantry. So far I was able to bypass Encircled's defences, now I will have to punch hole through them, and tanks are not right tool for that.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/28/2011 3:44:57 PM   
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No pockets so far. My plan was to destroy industry or force my opponent to defend it what would have given me decent chance to destroy his troops, but it looks like plan is not valid any more. Encircled is withdrawing only ARM, so I capture only piles of useless HI.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/28/2011 6:50:13 PM   
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Looks like you have the makings for a nice pocket around Kiev? When AGC and AGS Pz Grps meeting up in a few turns. Could be on the scale of the historical Kiev pocket. Nice work so far. Pockets will be much hard after T1 since most Soviet players don't stick around too long.

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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 9/28/2011 7:24:49 PM   
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Looks like you have the makings for a nice pocket around Kiev?



Encircled is not generous opponent and will not give me presents like that. Or maybe if I as him politely ... with few AFVs


I have been told once when I was moaning how unlucky I am (game vs Mehring), that I am not achieving anything because I am not realistic and too ambitious in my plans. Mega pocket isn't in my plans, it would be nice bonus but it won't happen in that game.

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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/12/2011 1:13:36 AM   
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Thanks to recent HQ build-up I managed to cross Luga river, so I anticipate real fighting will begin next turn.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/12/2011 1:24:19 AM   
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Thanks to build-up, presence of infantry divisions and favourable deployment of enemy troops I was able to penetrate deep and create decent pocket. I was really pleased, but my joy lasted only until I started next turn.


Thanks to superior tactical ability Soviet units managed to break ring of encirclement. Nicely done.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/12/2011 1:27:35 AM   
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Transitory turn in the south. Infantry moves forward accompanied by trucks filled with petrol - 4 Hq build-ups.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/13/2011 12:06:19 AM   
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Looking good. Arms are out by the looks, so pocket what you can.

When Flaviusx was fighting me in south I was able to bag about 12 to 17 untis a turn. Which doesn't sound like much, but I was able to get his army under 4 mill and he had to withdraw from south.

So look to pocket even 2 to 6 units at a time.

Great job in center.

So basicly pocket units and take out as much manpower as you can. The south holds the most which can be easly over run, but Leningrad or Moscow will make a big dent and he will be fighting for them. Which means you have more chances for pockets.

The only way to hit the arm number now is if you are advancing as fast as humanly possible. I think in north you stopped advancing and he did not feel he had to evac Leningrad.

Anyways nice job so far.

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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/19/2011 1:18:48 AM   
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New turn, new troubles.

I am weak and he is strong, so I is not hard to guess result of that equation - my advance got slow down to snail pace.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/19/2011 1:21:30 AM   
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Pretty unsuccessful turn in the centre too. I sealed the pocket (much smaller than initially), but got brutally stopped when I tried to change direction of attack to north east.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/19/2011 1:27:16 AM   
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Developments in the south didn't bring me any closer to victory either. I bulldozed my way north to widen front and create more options in next turn. Defence was strong and my infantry not too numerous so effect wasn't great - my flanks are fragile and supply route (MP wise) very long.






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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/19/2011 1:30:30 AM   
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Figures are low. Moreover I haven't destroyed any industry what makes situation even more alarming.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/28/2011 11:31:59 PM   
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While maintaining direct advance towards I decided to create myself more option by attacking around lake Ilmen.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/28/2011 11:35:00 PM   
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I pushed east a bit and created little pocket. I have to be realistic - Encircled won;t give me many opportunities to surround his troops, so I take what he gives and I am happy with that.




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RE: Persistence is a virtue 2 - Encircled (SOV) vs Kami... - 10/28/2011 11:36:36 PM   
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Infantry is now arriving in force, so I keep pressing forward waiting patiently for opening.




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