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Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpedoes... - 7/30/2011 12:02:24 AM   
championzhao


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Ok,PBEM, I was playing Japan.

Patch 06 - Public Beta - Build 1108p5

My opponent used patrol planes(PBY) to naval attack~~ Extremely powerful.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 16, 42

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Yasawa Islands at 127,157

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes


Allied aircraft
PBY-5A Catalina x 13


Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 4 damaged
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Torpedo hits 1
CA Chikuma
CA Mogami


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 28, 42

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Yasawa Islands at 127,157

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25



Allied aircraft
PBY-5A Catalina x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Chikuma
CA Kumano, Torpedo hits 1


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Yasawa Islands at 127,157

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25



Allied aircraft
PBY-5A Catalina x 10


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CA Mikuma, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 02, 42


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 117,189

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 486
A6M2-N Rufe x 9
E13A1 Jake x 4
E7K2 Alf x 2



Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 12
B-26 Marauder x 3
P-38E Lightning x 11
PBY-5 Catalina x 7
PBY-5A Catalina x 26
TBF-1 Avenger x 15


Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 3 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 damaged
PBY-5A Catalina: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato
CV Hiryu
CVL Ryujo
CVE Unyo
xAK Chowa Maru
CV Akagi
CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1
BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 4
CV Shokaku, Torpedo hits 1
CVL Zuiho, Torpedo hits 1



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PBY-5A Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
12 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
12 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
2 x PBY-5A Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
7 x PBY-5 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x PBY-5A Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo



PBY so strong? it's a bug?

what do you think?

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RE: Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpe... - 7/30/2011 12:16:51 AM   
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Very interesting!

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RE: Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpe... - 7/30/2011 1:04:45 AM   
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Not a bug.

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RE: Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpe... - 7/30/2011 1:22:30 AM   
herwin

 

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I have a bunch of them in the PM area...

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RE: Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpe... - 7/30/2011 1:30:31 AM   
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Part of the reason they do so well is they launch two torpedoes apiece.

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RE: Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpe... - 7/30/2011 1:39:12 AM   
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The problem is with the deliberate Design of CAP in AE. You had 501 planes on CAP. In the original WitP your CAP would have wiped out the attacking planes. In AE bombers will almost always get through as long as they have some escorts to sacrifice.

Also, if the Cats were flying under 5K feet and your CAP was at 15K or above, your CAP won't get down to attack the low-flying planes.

There is no really good solution to this problem, other than not to use naval power to attack enemy bases that have torpedo planes and US Cats. Your only solution is to establish bases from where you can fly Fighter Sweeps followed by bomber runs to close the enemy airfields.

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RE: Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpe... - 7/30/2011 7:37:55 AM   
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I think only time Catalina was used to launch torpedo attack in daytime was in Guadalcanal, when they threw everything that could fry against IJN reinforcement convoy. IIRC, it was successful attack too, pilot (name was Cram, I think) did hit a transport. On the other hand "Black Cat" night operations with radar were quite common and successful. Only successful US torpedo attack by aircraft in Midway was made with PBY Catalina during night. 

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RE: Question about PBY Catalina naval attack with torpe... - 7/30/2011 6:27:57 PM   
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Don't feel too bad. Emilys are capable of the same feat.

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