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CVB Midway airgroup weirdness - 4/21/2011 10:38:08 PM   
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playing Downfallv2 under 1108k8 beta.

on 10/12/45, CVB Midway appeared at Guam as a reinforcement equipped w/ 4 airgroups:
VF-74 - F4U-4 Corsair, sized 36, 30/0/6 aircraft (avail/maint&dam/reserve)
VBF-74 - F4U-4 Corsair, sized 0, 3/0/33 aircraft
VB-74 - 24xSB2C-5 Helldiver, sized 15, 21/0/3 aircraft
VT-74 - 36xSB2C-5 Helldiver, sized 15, 18/0/18 aircraft
i set all 4 airgroups to re-size to 36. Midway was assigned to TF 19 at Guam.

on 10/13/45, airgroup sizes were
VF-74, sized 36, 36/0/0
VBF-74, sized 0, 0/0/36
VB-74, sized 24, 15/0/9
VT-74, sized 36, 15/0/21
i set VBF-74 to re-size to 36.

on 10/14/45, VF-74 had disappeared! It had been automatically set to 're-size to fit ship' after it re-sized. I couldn't find VF-74 at any base or ship. i think its Corsairs were returned to the pool. i set the 3 remaining airgroups to re-size to 36.


on 10/15/45, the 3 remaining airgroups had all re-sized to 36.
VBF-74, sized 36, i upgraded it to F7F-3 Tigercats, 0/0/36
VB-74, sized 36, 24/12/0
VT-74, sized 36, 36/0/0

on 10/16/45, VBF-74 & VT-74 had disappeared (they'd been auto-set to 're-size to fit ship'). All 36 of the F7F-3 Tigercats were returned to the pool, i think the SB2C-5 Helldivers were also returned to the pool.


so it seems to me there's a bug associated w/ CVB Midway - when airgroups are re-sized, they show up next turn at the chosen size & are set to 're-size to fit ship', then they disapparate!

i've also had probs w/ other CVs, i successfully re-size their VT airgroups from 15 to 18, then later on, they spontaneously re-size back to 15 - at least they don't disappear!

but i think that if a player goes to the trouble to re-size Carrier Airgroups, they should be reset to 'no resize allowed' after they resize, instead of to 're-size to fit ship', i believe this would solve the prob. It's a bit too high-maintenance to go through all Carrier airgroups each turn, check if they've re-sized, then manually change them to 'no resize allowed'.

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RE: CVB Midway airgroup weirdness - 4/21/2011 11:12:32 PM   
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You might gain some time by doing this now - when MichaelM sees this he will ask you for save games from just before when the problem happened. Post them as an attachment to a message in this thread.

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RE: CVB Midway airgroup weirdness - 4/22/2011 1:44:33 AM   
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savegame attached (thx witpqs)

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RE: CVB Midway airgroup weirdness - 4/22/2011 8:43:09 AM   
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The resize is changing to '0' which indicates that the group should disband.
Shouldn't be happening though.


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RE: CVB Midway airgroup weirdness - 4/22/2011 7:31:56 PM   
jmalter

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

The resize is changing to '0' which indicates that the group should disband.
Shouldn't be happening though.


in Downfall, no groups are listed in the Group Withdrawal Schedule.
i haven't noticed any probs w/ CVLs or CVEs - just CVB Midway (disappearing airgroups) and CVs (DB or TB airgroups chopping back to size 15 from 18).

coupla' more naval airgroup moans:
- when upgrading aircraft type, group retains mission but changes range to the new type's max, imo it should retain the previous range.
- carrier airgroups do not re-size unless all airgroups on board are set to re-size.
- excessive # of reserve aircraft prevents re-size, if a size-18 group has 18 planes w/ 20 in reserve, it won't re-size until the reserve is decreased, hopefully those planes go back to the pool eventually, but the pool reserve count only increases for about 20% of the reserve-decrease clicks.
- carrier screen's aircraft capacity/used count is rarely accurate, # of reserve planes present aren't included.

i'm really impressed w/ your work on the beta & v. much enjoy the new features such as anti-clockwise search arcs, LCU hard/soft display, pilot skill averages, etc. thanks for all your work!

jM

< Message edited by jmalter -- 4/22/2011 8:48:10 PM >

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