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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 12:11:39 PM   
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T30. No regains in front of Kharkov. I will save the panzers for another day.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 12:15:02 PM   
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T30. Again no real need to commit the panzers.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 12:17:01 PM   
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T30. More mountain troops arrive to help the Rumanians in the Crimea.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:35:44 PM   
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T31 logistics. Suggestion posted in the suggestions box regarding Army group commander musical chairs.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:39:16 PM   
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T31 Moscow. No hexes recovered but no threat of a breakthrough either.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:41:34 PM   
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T31. Tula is still holding well - this area is key to my 1942 Summer plans, so the more I hold here the better.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:44:29 PM   
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T31. Trey is pushing hard on Kharkov but I'll wait until he is nearer to my panzers before I risk weakening them.






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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:46:45 PM   
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T31 Stalino.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:48:30 PM   
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T31 Trey continues to have fun in his little Crimean sideshow.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:54:42 PM   
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T32 Logistics. Still seem to be getting plenty of replacements. the first turn of blizzard took out over 250k but I seem to be getting them back slowly but surely.






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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 1:58:48 PM   
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T32 retreats. Trey is keeping up with the rate, and from this I know that over the blizzard I am going to lose an average 3.5 hexes across the whole front. It then becomes a question of how many I can get back in March. I doubt Trey will let me do what I did at Stalino in the Field marshal Noob AAR, but I can see a couple of opportunities lining up, so I am redeploying the Panzers accordingly.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:02:10 PM   
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T32. Kalinin is another key area for summer 1942, so Trey's lack of pressure here is good for me. If I was the Soviet, this would be my first target for my Shock Armies.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:04:08 PM   
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T32 at the gates of Tula.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:06:41 PM   
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T32. Getting Closer to Belgorod and Kharkov - I have to hold my nerve a litle bit longer before committing the panzers.






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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:08:23 PM   
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T32. stalino receives reinforcements from OKH.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:10:20 PM   
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T32. And the fire brigade arrives in the Crimea, so I suppose Trey has achieved his objective of diverting units away from the main front.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:13:26 PM   
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T33 losses.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:18:40 PM   
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T33 Logistics




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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:23:54 PM   
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But some, like 11th panzer are desperate to be upgraded to the 1942TOE so they can get their hands on the new PZIIIs and PZIVs.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:26:05 PM   
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T33. Some of my Panzer divs are getting into decent shape.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:26:47 PM   
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OOPs posted the wrong way round, but I think you get the message.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:28:30 PM   
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T33 Moscow Front.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:30:05 PM   
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T33 Tula - Orel.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:31:35 PM   
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T33 Kursk to Kharkov.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:32:57 PM   
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T33 Stalino.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:34:24 PM   
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T33. Crimean Circus.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:35:12 PM   
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T34 losses. Tanks losses still very much in my favour.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/12/2010 2:40:49 PM   
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T34 Logistics. All 3 Army group commanders go again.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/16/2010 10:35:59 AM   
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Trey and I feel we have reached the end of the road with this test. It has raised more than enough issues that are being discussed in other threads. For me the main purpose was to see how the blizzard experience differed between AI and PBEM, and it is a shame that the various bugs, replacements issues, leader musical chairs etc., is still not giving a "true" blizzard experience, but at least we found the bugs and have generated enough comparative data to make the next game better. My main fear about the soviet "double attack/double retreat" has almost been put to rest, but it still remains a major concern for Challenging AI games.

I think the AAR shows that generally the game is pretty well balanced. The mistakes Trey made at Leningrad and the Crimea probably gave me a front line 3-4 hexes further East and may have freed up the forces I needed to get Moscow and Rostov.

I have a concern that HQ build up may be overpowered - the GE can risk using it in the turns just before the mud arrives, as the trucks will recover from the damage during the mud, so the last push I did on Moscow could have been done sooner, and my March blizzard recovery would have been really nasty, but I was way over strength in terms of AFVs and Men.

I think the vehicle pools/req'd needs careful examination - since the supply fix that was done after Trey and I's RtM test, the game seems to be flooded with vehicles in all the scenarios - the Typhoon and Case Blue figures have been adjusted, and I know 1943 is being worked on, but both sides have 150k more vehicles compared to the June version Don and I played.

The game was/is fun, but it is clear the "spike" of the Blizzard is straining the engine to its limits and it is still not clear that the correct force balance will be achieved for the 1942 summer campaign season.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/16/2010 11:42:24 AM   
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Bob, could you post screenshots of your last turn with the railroad overlay on?

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