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A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 6:42:34 PM   
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A retrospective from whence we came.

























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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 6:49:46 PM   
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Sorry for not quoting you, Markshot, but I don't want to give the Internet a bandwidth hernia.

But, hey, am I the only one that misses the radio?

The game that was published by Battlefront came with heckuva printed manual, BTW.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 6:49:58 PM   
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Damn Mark, I almost want to reload HTTR!

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 6:54:04 PM   
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I only realized after making them that I hadn't reduced the JPG compression.

I am not sure where in the last four years we lost the radio. It was almost like a trade mark of the series.

The manual could actually be read by the naked eye. Additionally, MG analysis later became half of the HTTR Strategy Guide (a separate product still available for sale) and was removed from the HTTR manual.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 6:59:55 PM   
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Aside from the radio, it looks like we also lost the objective descriptions.

I remember the first release of RDOA had most unit/commander data represented by a text tag. In one of the patches that was switched to a bar presentation. A big improvement as it was hard to know exactly how the text tags compared.

I think HTTR introduced the dark and light blue bars such that you could compared start and end states.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:09:41 PM   
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It's a shame that BattleFront dismantled it's RDOA forum. They had some cool screenshots of a proposed Operation Crursader game. Along with playing RD, it was those images that hooked me on the AA engine and game concepts. From that point, forward, it's been my belief that this is simply the only way to do a proper operational, land-combat wargame.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:14:32 PM   
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PoE,

Well, if you really want something from the forums, I wrote a custom archive script and ran it just 24 hours before BTS took it offline. Talk about getting inside someone's OODA loop!

So, if you want it, I could give you a zip of the public forum (16Mb).

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:17:39 PM   
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Dave looks quite a bit younger in the RDOA game credits. No doubt that burning candle on both ends for the last 10 years have taken their toll on his dashing personage.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:28:12 PM   
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oops ... double post

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:29:14 PM   
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I have them all:)

Though I gave my dad Red Devils...

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:30:33 PM   
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You're a good son! No one is getting my RDOA.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:35:35 PM   
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PoE,

Well, if you really want something from the forums, I wrote a custom archive script and ran it just 24 hours before BTS took it offline. Talk about getting inside someone's OODA loop!

So, if you want it, I could give you a zip of the public forum (16Mb).


Will it include the graphics?

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:40:58 PM   
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Re graphics: yes

PM me with a current email address and I will make it available for download this afternoon.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 7:50:16 PM   
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Awesome, Markshot, Thanks!

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 8:48:35 PM   
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Hah. At the moment I have a printed out RDOA tutorial manual on my lap and I'm doing the first tutorial.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 9:10:30 PM   
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I think you're all missing something




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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/2/2010 9:16:11 PM   
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I thought Dave did some game before that about alien (as in extraterrestial) drug smugglers. Apparently it was met with rave reviews by Australian TV news for corrupting the youth of Australia. As I understand it, the rest of Dave's game design career has been to chart a path beyond that incident.

When it comes to destroying family values with video games, Dave was definitely ahead of the curve. :)

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 12:10:28 AM   
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Deep from the bowels of Markshot's Internet archive, proof emerges of what was supposed to have been the second game!

This would be Desert Crusade, the focus, Operation Crusader:




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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 12:28:46 AM   
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Of course an intrepid gamer might make the Crusader scenario with new available tools with the new game?

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 12:41:22 AM   
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Of course an intrepid gamer might make the Crusader scenario with new available tools with the new game?


Not unless the CotA estabs are massaged into working with BftB estab editor.

It simply won't happen.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 1:26:45 AM   
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He he he ... look what I found! Lucky for us that this was not received well by the "mums" all across Australia. Otherwise, we would all be playing "Command Ops: Narco Wars"!

PS: I know Dave is going to get revenge on me for this sooner or later. Certainly this dashes any chance he has of running for public office.



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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 1:46:57 AM   
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I'd pay $104.83 for the T-shirt!

And look, there's no DRM!!!




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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 3:59:07 AM   
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See the little guy on the bottom left?

Thats me after we finsihed coding it

I can still remember one of our journalists holding a copy up on TV and saying it should be banned as it was going to corrupt all the youth of Australia (maybe the Syringe on the front cover was not such a good idea!). Of course his copy was still in its plastic wrap so he had never even played it! The only good thing is that Dave once told me that he got the sack from his Newsparer job, karma at work



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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 4:10:28 AM   
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quote:

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I think you're all missing something





Ha, I rememebr Dave demoing Fire-Brigade at a games convention in Canberra. He had it running on his Mac, I spent several hours playing and he convinced me to part with $60(?) for the Amiga version. This was to be released "Real Soon Now". I should have known I was in trouble when he contacted me and asked if I could Beta test it for him!

Still have my copy at home, it was a good (and different) game in its day. Dave has always been willing to take a different tact.


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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 9:55:19 AM   
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Hexless and contiguous too, IIRC!

Game = £30
RAM to play = £150
Enjoyment = priceless.





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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 1:46:18 PM   
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He he he ... look what I found! Lucky for us that this was not received well by the "mums" all across Australia. Otherwise, we would all be playing "Command Ops: Narco Wars"!


Priceless, thank you!


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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 6/3/2010 2:18:01 PM   
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quote:

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I think you're all missing something



Not really, got the Mac version somewhere at home. I didn't know there was an Amiga version as well. I miss the setting but TBH I don't miss playing that actual game ;) At the time I was making something similar using Apple's Hypercard. Ah... those were the days. Wouldn't like to go back though.

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RE: A retrospective for all you fans ... - 7/10/2010 12:38:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CriticalMass

Hexless and contiguous too, IIRC!

Game = £30
RAM to play = £150
Enjoyment = priceless.


For some weird reason my copy of Fire-Brigade has black and white documentation. Damn, it seems that I have bought a re-edition or something like that.

Anyway, it's incredible to see a 22 year old game and know that developers who made it are still making similar games.
Too bad that the same thing can't be said about cRPG developers.

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