ORIGINAL: John 3rd
One of my per peeves is the Yamato and Musashi dates . Not for the dates themselves but for the fact you have 2 VERY expensive ships sucking HI longer than historical. If you add it up 200*3* 180 days is 110K HI per ship ( prob more as historically they were accelerated) . In addition if the Yamato were needed in Dec or Jan 41 they would have been used despite the 18" guns being less accurate than expected.
i) Add 150K HI to the pool.
ii) Start the ships with some damage on the historical commision dates , the repair yard simulates the fixes that were made.
iii) Add devices with lower accuracy and upgrade them in a refit. Ships start on historical dates.
BK--My knowledge base here is pretty thin. Let me ask some simple questions:
1. What were the actual dates for commissioning?
2. What were the problems that AE/WitP tries to 'fix' by the later dates?
The Refit idea wouldn't be too rough to do in the game. Are you serious about 150,000 HI?! Wow.
Can anyone else sound off here?
Yamato trials started August 41 she was comissioned 16th December 41 after completing her aceptance trials , here gunnery werent great and there were some issues so with the US fleet at the bottom they put here in the yard for about 4 weeks in February ( mem scratchy) she then had a lot more trials and practice. The gunnery was finally satisfactory at the date she is in the game.
She shows up in the game 5.25 months later. You could deduct the 6 extra weeks at Kure.
here is her TROM
12 August 1941:
Departs Kure for trials.
5 September 1941:
Kure. Battleship No. 1 is fitting-out. Captain (later Vice Admiral) Miyazato Shutoku (former CO of NAKA) is posted as her Chief Equipping Officer.
15 October 1941:
Captain Miyazato is promoted Rear Admiral.
1 November 1941:
Kure. Captain (later Vice Admiral) Takayanagi Gihachi (former CO of ISE) is posted as Battleship No. 1's Chief Equipping Officer. Rear Admiral Miyazato is reassigned as Chief of Personnel for Kure Naval District.
8 December 1941: The Attack on Pearl Harbor:
Kure. At the opening of hostilities, Battleship No. 1 is still fitting-out.
16 December 1941:
Battleship No. 1 is completed and registered (commissioned) as the YAMATO in the Kure Naval District. Captain Takayanagi is the Commanding Officer.
YAMATO is assigned to the Combined Fleet's BatDiv 1 with NAGATO and MUTSU at Hashirajima.
21 December 1941:
Departs Kure. Arrives at Hiroshima Bay, Inland Sea. Anchors W of NAGATO at Hashirajima.
21 December 1941-10 February 1942:
Inland Sea. Final fitting-out. Deficiencies found are corrected at Kure. YAMATO's initial AA suite is twelve 127-mm guns (6x2), twenty-four 25-mm guns (8x3 enclosed mounts) and four 13.2-mm machine guns (2x2).
12 February 1942:
Departs Kure. Arrives at Hashirajima. The flag of the Combined Fleet's Commander-in-Chief Admiral (Fleet Admiral, posthumously) Yamamoto Isoroku (former CO of AKAGI) is transferred from NAGATO to YAMATO.
19 February 1942:
BatDiv 1 departs Hashirajima for training in the Iyo Nada. Returns later that day.
20-23 February 1942:
The Chief of Staff of the Combined Fleet, Rear Admiral (later Vice Admiral) Ugaki Matome (former CO of HYUGA), conducts a series of war games aboard YAMATO to test plans for the second-stage operations.
The Chief of the Naval General Staff's 1st Bureau (Plans and Operations) Rear Admiral (later Vice Admiral) Fukudome Shigeru (former CO of NAGATO) and the NGS's Captain (later Rear Admiral), the Baron, Tomioka Sadatoshi attend the war games. An invasion of British Ceylon in the Indian Ocean is war-gamed unsuccessfully.
ComCarDiv 2 Rear Admiral (Vice Admiral, posthumously) Yamaguchi Tamon (former CO of ISUZU) distributes copies of his plan for a new offensive against Hawaii beginning in early 1943. Cdr (later Captain) Prince Takamatsu Nobuhito (brother of Emperor Hirohito (Showa) and Major Prince Tsunenori Takeda arrive aboard YAMATO to observe the table tap maneuvers.
9 March 1942:
Admiral Yamamoto issues orders to the fleet to prepare for Operation "C", a raid into the Indian Ocean.
30 March 1942:
Inland Sea. Admiral Yamamoto observes while Captain Takayanagi conducts more armament trials at a range of 23 miles. They are judged a failure. Both Takayanagi and his gunnery officer are upbraided because YAMATO's gun aimers manning the main rangefinder misread the horizontal settings.
Inland Sea. Training and gunnery practice.
11 April 1942:
Fleet Admiral Prince Fushimi Hiroyasu, former Chief, Naval General Staff, pays a call on YAMATO.
Captain (later Vice Admiral) Arima Kaoru (former CO of HIEI), the Chief Equipping Officer of YAMATO's sister-ship MUSASHI, pays an orientation visit with members of MUSASHI's fitting-out crew.
Inland Sea. Training and gunnery practice.
1 May 1942:
Captain Takayanagi is promoted Rear Admiral.
Early May 1942:
Admiral Yamamoto conducts war games aboard YAMATO to test plans for the Invasion of Midway.
19 May 1942:
Departs Kure for battle training. The new light carrier JUNYO, under Captain (Vice Admiral, posthumously) Ishii Shizue (former CO of KASUGA MARU), almost sidewipes YAMATO.
23 May 1942:
Returns to Hashirajima.
27 May 1942:
YAMATO is deemed operational.