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Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have disad... - 2/8/2010 9:25:58 PM   
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Are there any negative dice rolls for amphibious assaults or land attacks for an infantry fragment that was formed when it was put on a ship? For example, pretend a 100 AV unit is put onto four boats. Are there any downsides to sending 3x ships to hit a strong target, and sending the remaining ship to hit another target? Or splitting them between four targets?

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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/8/2010 9:36:38 PM   
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If you knew the targets had no opposition on them then I'd say this was fine. Since you could only allocate prep locations to the fragments once they were fragments (on board ship), and that units on a long journey on a ships take fatigue. I'd not like to find opposition, not only would your fragments not be very well prepared to hit the beach they are targeted with, but they'd be stuffed when they got ashore.

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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/8/2010 9:51:39 PM   
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I also find that this sometimes has the tendency to put a lot of support on one ship and a lot of combat troops on others. If you split units for invasions this way, you may find your cooks storming the beaches, or that you have no support for your troops once ashore.

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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/8/2010 10:48:24 PM   
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Other than the fact that an xAK is about the worst possible choice of a ship to load an LCU on for an amphibious invasion?

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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/8/2010 11:00:43 PM   
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Other than the fact that an xAK is about the worst possible choice of a ship to load an LCU on for an amphibious invasion?


Could be worse... maybe an AKE or something ;)

What ships would you suggest focusing on besides xAK and xAP for all of Japan's early invasions? All of my xAK-supported landings so far have unloaded all troops within one turn, or two turns in rare cases.

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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/8/2010 11:25:00 PM   
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Well, the Japanese have limited choices, but for a short haul over the beach opposed landing, the LB is good (properly supported). They will completely unload in one phase

For over the beach landings, especially opposed landings, regular AP's and AK's are best. xAP's and xAK's unload slowly. Early in the war though, the Japanese xAP and xAK work as well as the regular AP and AK though.

The key is to get troops into troop space. When loading, ensure the TF you are loading into has more than adequate troop space.

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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/9/2010 2:59:55 AM   
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Agree on the troop space, but the reality Japan faces is she doesn't have enough to prosecute her invasion plans without using xAKs. There will definitely have to be some conversions made if invasions are intended after the early war bonus goes away.

I've been upgrading to APs as fast as I can in my Guad scenario for just this reason. Still...one should always divide a unit among multiple ships for any invasion just to limit losses. Even if they are just xAKs.



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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/9/2010 3:22:56 AM   
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quote:

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Agree on the troop space, but the reality Japan faces is she doesn't have enough to prosecute her invasion plans without using xAKs. There will definitely have to be some conversions made if invasions are intended after the early war bonus goes away.

I've been upgrading to APs as fast as I can in my Guad scenario for just this reason. Still...one should always divide a unit among multiple ships for any invasion just to limit losses. Even if they are just xAKs.




I agree. I drifted off topic with my quick response and then sort of ignored the "early in the war" in my second response. Early in the war the xAK's are fine, but every effort should be made to load troops in troop space and for opposed landings, understand the 1200 point unload per turn to get your troops ashore quickly and to divide the units up among multiple ships to avoid loss at sea.

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RE: Does using xAKs to split LCUs into fragments have d... - 2/9/2010 2:03:40 PM   
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... you may find your cooks storming the beaches ....

Every remf should have that experience at least once.

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