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Crap - 3/8/2010 4:54:40 PM   
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Things did not go as well at Palembang as I might have hoped. We only got 1-2 odds. The 5th division, the best division in the IJA, now has a disruption of 79. Will need to rest for a good while before attacking again. In the meantime, I am going to bring over another division from Sorebaja to help out.

Apparently, the reason for the poor result was some disruption. Not sure why there was disruption. I don't think there was any before the river crossing. At least we caused 25% more casualties than we took.
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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 13407 troops, 121 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 466
Defending force 6282 troops, 79 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 214

Japanese adjusted assault: 438
Allied adjusted defense: 502

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
294 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
430 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
Tapanoeli Gsn Battalion
Riouw KNIL Battalion
Zuid KNIL Battalion
Padang Garrison Battalion
Pakanbaroe Det.
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Bintan Det. Base Force
Bengkalis Base Force
Djambi Base Force
Padang Base Force
Palembang Base Force

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RE: Crap - 3/9/2010 8:36:37 PM   
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On May 7 the 5th division launched another attack at Palembang. This time things went much better. We achieved 2-1 odds and dropped the forts 1 level. I had a division about ready to unload at Oosthaven to help out at Palembang, but I stopped it. That division will now sail to northern Sumatra where it will capture Medan. At Palembang the 5th division is resting to reduce disruption before attacking again. For the next attack, an SNLF unit is marching into Palembang from the north. It has 80 AV to add to the assault. This should allow me to at least achieve another 2-1 result, dropping the forts yet again.

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13437 troops, 121 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 469
Defending force 6136 troops, 78 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 202

Japanese adjusted assault: 340
Allied adjusted defense: 121

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
254 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
Padang Garrison Battalion
Pakanbaroe Det.
Zuid KNIL Battalion
Tapanoeli Gsn Battalion
Riouw KNIL Battalion
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
Padang Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Bengkalis Base Force
Bintan Det. Base Force
Djambi Base Force
Palembang Base Force

On Luzon two more divisions are unloading. Soon I will have 5 divisions at Clark Field. Another allied unit died there. He is down to 39 units at Clark and his AV has dropped to less than 1700. He is clearly dieing of attrition.

I am seeing the impact of Japan's reduced amphib bonus in some of the assaults I have launched lately. Casualties are much higher than previously. This experience has effected my thinking about Australia. I will need AKs for any major (and even minor) assaults and I only have so many. In June, however, I can convert many xAKs to AKs. So in about a week I will have a number of SNLF units invaded bases along the northern Australian coast, such as Derby, Broome, Hedland, etc. using the AK assets I have. I will then consider an attack directed at Perth.

All of my strategic thinking is directed towards isolating Australia from significant reinforcement. Thus, I am interested in Perth. Another effort in this regard is a sweep currently being made by KB1 in the Indian Ocean. I am looking for transport TFs heading to Australia in this neck of the woods. Sinking a bunch of transports, of course, would be nice. More importantly, though, is the message such an attack would send about the safety of this route for transporting supplies and troops. Perhaps I can make witpqs very hesitant about sending convoys to Australia through the Indian Ocean.

Over to the east of Australia, I am planning a similar sweep by KB2 south of the Tonga Islands. I have Mavis's searching this stretch of ocean and a number of subs stationed off New Zealand and the western coast of Australia. They have not picking up on any movement here at all. But it is possible that he is sending convoys very, very far south and I am not picking up on them. Thus, my planned sweep by KB2. Before this sweep can occur, however, KB2 will need to be reinforced. Junyo is now available and Kaga (which was torpedoed by a submarine during the invasion of Pago-Pago) will be completely patched up in 2 weeks. Once those two ships mate up with the Akagi, Shoho, and Zhuiho at Truk I will feel sufficiently confident to undertake a raid into the South Seas.

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RE: Crap - 3/10/2010 3:25:43 PM   
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Wow, mid-May already. You guys must be doing more than a turn a day. Congrats on moving so quickly! I forget: one-day turns or two-day turns?

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I am seeing the impact of Japan's reduced amphib bonus in some of the assaults I have launched lately.


I guess this is why Q-Ball is always urging us JFBs to move faster, faster. The bonus runs out when, March 31? Or is it the end of April? Either way, it's a short deadline. I find it very difficult to take the whole SRA as fast as the Japanese did historically, even against the AI; I'm sure I'll find it impossible in my PBEM. Kinda hard to think about Oz when you're still devoting significant numbers of troops to taking Palembang, etc. Anyway, have you taken anything in Oz yet, or is this still in the planning stage?

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RE: Crap - 3/10/2010 3:58:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Grotius

Wow, mid-May already. You guys must be doing more than a turn a day. Congrats on moving so quickly! I forget: one-day turns or two-day turns?

quote:

I am seeing the impact of Japan's reduced amphib bonus in some of the assaults I have launched lately.


I guess this is why Q-Ball is always urging us JFBs to move faster, faster. The bonus runs out when, March 31? Or is it the end of April? Either way, it's a short deadline. I find it very difficult to take the whole SRA as fast as the Japanese did historically, even against the AI; I'm sure I'll find it impossible in my PBEM. Kinda hard to think about Oz when you're still devoting significant numbers of troops to taking Palembang, etc. Anyway, have you taken anything in Oz yet, or is this still in the planning stage?


I am pretty sure the bonus expires at the end of March. I should note the bonus does not just effect the unloading rate, but the number of casualties you take when unloading over the beach.

I have not yet taken anything in Oz.

My rate of advance in the SRA is slower than it otherwise might have been for two reasons: one, the KB was tied up for a long time supporting the invasion of Pago-Pago (which did not fall until the tail end of February); and two, because we do not have any HR about strat bombing the oil centers in 41/42. Because of the lack of this HR, I was unable to take bases such as Palembang and Balikpapan earlier, thus depriving myself of tactically important airbases which could have supported an earlier invasion of Java. Without these airbases, the KB was even more important for taking Java early, but as I said, it was not available until March at the earliest. (In the end, I never used any of my carriers for operations in the DEI; I relied soley on LBA.)

We are playing one day turns.



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The Big Kahuna - 3/11/2010 2:33:33 AM   
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Palembang fell today. The damage was fairly extensive. 306 oil centers were damaged and 270 refineries. Fortunately, witpqs left behind a huge amount of fuel, supply and oil when he retreated. Over 140,000 fuel and 55,000 supply. Between this massive amount of supply and the supply generated by the refinery (over 700 per day), repairing both the refineries and oil centers can be accomplished without having to bring in any outside supply. In less than a year I should have everything as good as new.

Cocos Island also fell today. Christmas island would have been captured as well, except that I apparently forgot to set the SNLF there to attack. Cocos will serve as a forward observation base. A small aviation unit is being shipped there and a chutai of Mavis's are prepared to rebase to the island in short order. Those Mavis's will be able to patrol almost out to the map edge.

The 4th division should finish loading at Tandjoengbalai on the 16th. From there it will march to Medan (northern Sumatra) and capture that oil center. It will then continue marching north to secure the remainder of Sumatra. With that, the entire DEI will be in Japanese hands.

On Luzon, the 18th and Imp Guards divisions have finished unloading. They will join the 14th, 16th, and 48th divisions at Clark Field. Allied AV there is now less that 1600. I expect to find the forts are at level 3. The terrain is also quite favorable to the defender. Nevertheless, he has obviously run out of supply and so cannot repair any of his casualties. This should not take too long.

After Clark and Bataan fall, at least two of those division will load up and sail to Mindanao.

Both the Japanese perimeter and interior are very close to being secured.

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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/12/2010 2:35:13 AM   
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The first attack against Clark was launched today. It would appear that my bombing campaign started soon enough to keep him from getting to level four forts. Still, we only got 1-2 odds and the troops are now very disrupted. I will have to wait several days before launching another attack.

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 70746 troops, 709 guns, 522 vehicles, Assault Value = 2433
Defending force 44897 troops, 623 guns, 516 vehicles, Assault Value = 1566

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 1209
Allied adjusted defense: 3148

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2407 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 164 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 40 (2 destroyed, 38 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1929 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 135 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 160 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

On Sumatra our troops are just about to enter Medan. Right now the mouse over indicates only 6 units there. That may climb as I raise the detection level. I think I remember there being 10 units there at one time. Did he get some of them out? Obviously, I have not been very diligent about recon in this sector.


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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/12/2010 9:22:57 AM   
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Refinary never pays for itself as you have access at home , for oil repairs  your break even point is the second half of 44.

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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/12/2010 6:27:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bklooste

Refinary never pays for itself as you have access at home , for oil repairs  your break even point is the second half of 44.


I am not quite sure I understand how you break even on oil. A refinery produces supply so it can pay back (after 1000 days) the supply spent repairing it. But an oil center just produces oil.

At any rate, the only refineries I am repairing are those at Palembang (since this is self-financing, don't need to bring in extra supply) and one at Sorebaja. The Sorebaja refinery is being repaired because I want the extra fuel on Java to supply the HI centers there that I have expanded along with naval assets I have based there.

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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/12/2010 6:34:05 PM   
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Medan fell today. The oil center and refinery were left almost completely intact. Only two damage points to each. One regiment of the 4th division will now march north and capture the two remaining bases on northern Sumatra. The other two regiments are going to ship out for Victoria Point and Georgetown.

The Yamato arrived a couple of days ago, allowing me to accelerate the Hiyo and Ryuho. The Hiyo will arrive in 30 days.



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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/13/2010 2:05:46 AM   
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The second assault on Clark Field was launched today. We achieve 1-1 results this time and the allies took more casualties than the Japanese. The forts are down to level 1. Despite this success, the disruption on my units has climbed back up into the 30s and 40s, so we rest again for several more days.
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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 70105 troops, 709 guns, 610 vehicles, Assault Value = 2439
Defending force 42584 troops, 609 guns, 509 vehicles, Assault Value = 1374

Japanese adjusted assault: 1003
Allied adjusted defense: 712

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1456 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 187 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 61 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 89 (13 destroyed, 76 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2199 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 165 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 169 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (0 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Operations against Australia begin today. Four SNLF units are loading on AKs (real AKs, not xAKs) at Batavia. They will assault Broome. I have chosen this base as my first target because it has a size three airfield and so represents the greatest threat outside of Darwin. I have not yet decided what to do about Darwin. It is still only a level three airfield. And there are only four units there, not very big ones at that. The airfields leading down to Alice Springs are only level one, while Alice Springs is at level four. I don't know why he is not developing these fields. The only way to get supply up to Darwin is to increase the size of the bases there. Maybe he figures Darwin is a lost cause at this point in the war. Or he could be trying to lay some elaborate trap. Well, I am actually more interested in Perth than Darwin. I don't know if I will go for Perth yet or not, but an attack on bases like Broome, Derby and Hedland will perhaps give the impression that I am going for Darwin. I am also thinking about a demonstration on the eastern side of Australia. I have several divisions in Manchuria prepping for bases like Rockhamption, Townsville and Brisbane, thus giving his intelligence folk the impression I am going for northeastern Australia. A demonstration in the Coral Sea could reinforce that impression. An actual invasion of someplace like Charter Towers would be even more convincing. No matter what happens, though, it will be a while. I can start churning out AKs on June 1, but they will take 27 days to convert. So any invasion would be at the end of June, just about the time I should be finished cleaning up the Philippines.

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RE: Crap - 3/13/2010 4:43:12 AM   
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Kaga was released from the ship yard today. Together with Junyo and Yamato it now heads to Truk to join up with KB2. (Yamato is not going to be part of this group, I just want it at Truk where it will be closer to the theater of operations.) KB2 will then be composed of CVs Akagi, Kaga, Junyo, CVLs Shoho and Zuiho and possibly CVE Taiyo (which is loaded with Zeros). (Hiyo will be available in about 28 days. And a Taiyo class CVE should be finished building tomorrow.) Once Kaga and Junyo reach Truk, KB2 will make a sweep to the south of the Tonga Islands to look for convoys heading to and from Oz.

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Clark Field Falls - 3/14/2010 4:32:27 AM   
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Clark Field fell on the third assault. I was actually a little surprised since some of my units still had disruption in the teens. Cleaning up Bataan should not take any time at all, not after the allies suffered over 25,000 casualties.
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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 69532 troops, 709 guns, 599 vehicles, Assault Value = 2424
Defending force 40127 troops, 577 guns, 504 vehicles, Assault Value = 1199

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1065
Allied adjusted defense: 484

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Clark Field !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1651 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 122 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 157 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 33 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 106 (11 destroyed, 95 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
25002 casualties reported
Squads: 845 destroyed, 234 disabled
Non Combat: 1656 destroyed, 181 disabled
Engineers: 158 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 377 (352 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Vehicles lost 414 (412 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 33
Units destroyed 5

Next up: Mindanao.

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A not so good day - 3/14/2010 10:28:28 PM   
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Crap. Just when Kaga gets out of the yards (it will arrive at Truk next turn) Hiryu eats two torpedoes fired by a Dutch sub. I knew there were subs in the area. In fact, KB1 was sitting right on top of a sub at the end of last turn. I have been playing cat and mouse with these subs for at least two turns, trying to move away from them hoping they couldn't catch me. Except for the fact that Perth is obviously a major sub base for witpqs, so there are a lot of subs coming and going on the western side of Australia. My luck ran out today, obviously.

If Hiryu survives it will be out of the war for 4 months. Right now it has 12 sys, 68 float (33 major) and 33 engine (26 major). No fires, so that is good. But there are still all those subs around and 68 float is appalling. I hope I don't have to scuttle her.

I wonder what witpqs thinks I am up to? I'll bet he thinks I am aiming for Perth. A Hudson unit that had been at Darwin doing naval search is no longer there. I would guess he moved it west, perhaps to Broome.

Well, it doesn't much matter at the moment: the invasion of Broome commences tomorrow with support from the rest of KB1.







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RE: A not so good day - 3/15/2010 4:44:46 AM   
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Well, no more subs showed up to finish off Hiryu. I don't know if that will continue to be the case. She has a very dangerous passage to make back to Sorebaja. Float damage came down 1 point. Not much, but at least it didn't go up. She is only making 3 knots right now, so it will be a long while before she can even make port. I have 3 ARs heading to Sorebaja right now to help make some repairs to the non-major damage before I try to get the ship to a shipyard. Unfortunately, even if she makes it to Sorebaja, going from there to a shipyard seems fraught with danger since the Java Sea appears to be a superhighway for subs. (I am bringing ASW float planes down here to help manage this problem.)

Broome was invaded and no one is home. What in the hell is witpqs doing? He has not been developing bases in western Australia or northern Australia. He has not been developing bases in the Pacific either. The Line Islands are no bigger than they were at the start of the game. Same with the society islands, although one of my subs did spot a convoy of xAPs going to Tahiti. He has been developing bases in southeast Australia, India and on the U.S. west coast. Is this a defensive posture? Or is he preparing to launch his offensive from India?

Today was spent converting xAKs. Some were converted to TKs while others were converted to AKs. More will be converted to AKs when they finish with their current tasks and reach an appropriate port.

The operations report indicated that 108 pilots had their training accelerated. Big whoopdy doo. I don't need more poorly trained replacements, I need better trained ones, even if there are fewer of them. I have more replacements in the pool than I could possible train right now. I ended up pulling a bunch of the TRACOM guys out of TRACOM and assigned them to some training squadrons in order to raise the average experience level of those squadrons. It seems as though newbies that are training will rise towards the squadron's average experience level. The higher this is, the faster they seem to gain in experience.

The HI are down to less than 100 days fuel. Yikes! Fortunately, now that Palembang and Medan are on line, that is about to change. Another big fuel convoy is currently loading at Singapore and should set sail the day after tomorrow. (I am using Balikpapan to send fuel to Rabaul and Truk.)

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Bataan Falls, Luzon Cleared - 3/17/2010 3:12:04 AM   
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Bataan fell today on the first assault. Luzon is now completely cleared. The troops at Bataan - 5 divisions and 3 armor regiments plus assorted artillery - are now marching back to Manila. Minesweepers have been dispatched from Batangas to clear the mines. xAPs are also sitting at Batangas waiting for the mines to be cleared so that they can then dock at Manila to pick up our victorious troops and send them to . . . where ever. Two divisions will be landed on Mindanao. I will probably use another division to clean out the rest of the central Philippines, such as Cebu, Leyte, etc.

An empty Port Hedland on the northern coast of Australia was invaded yesterday and will be captured tomorrow. Witpqs has also evacuated Darwin. Only one unit is still there. I am guessing this is some kind of static coastal defense force. So if he is just going to give it to me, I am going to take it. I figure it can't hurt if I don't try too hard to hold it. I won't lose many troops if I don't put a lot in there. And it will give me added time to develop bases in the eastern DEI.

Hiryu has managed to bring its float damage down to 53 and increased its speed to 5 knots. It is still several days away from Sorebaja. It is being covered by KB1.


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RE: Bataan Falls, Luzon Cleared - 3/18/2010 11:54:46 PM   
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The mines at Bataan were cleared out today. Transports are now heading to Manila to pick up the divisions marching there from Bataan. Some of them will be used to secure the remainder of the Philippines, in particular, Mindanao.

Hiryu made it to Sorebaja. It will repair the non-major damage there and then head to Singapore were it will go into the yards to repair the major damage.

After checking tracker for ship upgrades I found that Shokaku and Zuikaku can be upgraded to include radar. So KB 1 is now headed to Singapore where this carrier division will undergo the upgrade procedure. That will take until the end of June. That will leave only Soryu and and Ryujo for KB 1, so I will send these carriers over to Truk to join up with the other carriers of KB 2. Hiyo should be finished in 18 days. That will give me a carrier striking force of Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Junyo, Hiyo, plus the CVLs Ryujo, Zuiho and Shoho. Because Shokaku and Zuikaku will both have radar installed, it looks like they will not be serving in the same carrier division for a while. Instead, they will be split up so that I can have 2 carrier striking forces, each one of which will have a radar equipped ship.

Kukong in southern China was captured today. I am now nearing the completion my objectives in southern China and the establishment of my desired defensive line.






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RE: Bataan Falls, Luzon Cleared - 3/18/2010 11:55:43 PM   
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Here is the defensive line in northern China





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RE: Bataan Falls, Luzon Cleared - 3/19/2010 12:08:09 AM   
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Here is a front line trace of the Japanese Empire as of June 6, 1942.

Darwin will be secured shortly. A division at Sorebaja is 100% prepped for Darwin and the AK amphibious force that was used to secure Broome and Port Hedland is now heading back to Sorebaja to pick up this division to land at Darwin. The only allied unit at Darwin is that static CD unit. Witpqs is bugging out of northern Australia. Recon of Katherine shows that the units there are marching south towards Tennant Creek.

The big question is whether I launch an operation aimed at securing Perth. The goal here is to help isolate Australia from being reinforced and resupplied from the west. The AK lift capacity needed for such an operation will not be available till the end of June when all of the xAKs I converted will come on line. That seems rather late for an offensive. Nevertheless, except for Kalgoorlie, witpqs has not been building up these bases. Instead, it would seem he has hunkered down in southeast Australia.

One final note: I have become concerned that witpqs may be sending convoys to Australia from the west coast of the US along the extreme southern edge of the map. That would burn up a lot of fuel, but it still seems very doable. To counter this, if he is doing it, I am surging a large number of subs into the area to check. I am also planning a carrier raid down south. I would especially like to find an allied tanker convoy. Preventing Australia from being refueled would put a huge crimp in any effort to launch an offensive from that quarter.





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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 12:17:09 AM   
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Refinary never pays for itself as you have access at home , for oil repairs  your break even point is the second half of 44.


I agree about refineries, but for a different reason. There is excess refinery capacity at the Home Islands. Ships need to go there. You may as well move your excess oil there to be refined.

I don't understand your statement about oil repairs. For me, oil is produced to ultimately be used to fuel your ships and HI. It has nothing to do with getting your expended supply out of it. As long as you have excess supply, repair your oil centers, until they are in range of Allied bombers.

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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 12:32:21 AM   
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Refinary never pays for itself as you have access at home , for oil repairs  your break even point is the second half of 44.


I agree about refineries, but for a different reason. There is excess refinery capacity at the Home Islands. Ships need to go there. You may as well move your excess oil there to be refined.

I don't understand your statement about oil repairs. For me, oil is produced to ultimately be used to fuel your ships and HI. It has nothing to do with getting your expended supply out of it. As long as you have excess supply, repair your oil centers, until they are in range of Allied bombers.


I don't understand any of this conversation. Oil does not fuel ships. Fuel does. Oil does not feed HI, fuel does. Oil does not produce supply, refineries do. So there is no "payback point" for repaired oil centers. There is a "payback point" for repaired refineries: 1000 days for each point repaired. Also, you are going to need to transport fuel from the SRA if you want to keep your resource convoys running. Between the resource convoys, HI, and your fleet, the home islands are sucking down more fuel than is produced by the refineries there.

Generally, I am not repairing refineries. I made two exceptions to this: Sorebaja and Palembang. For Sorebaja, I wanted a) the extra supply produced and b) the fuel produced that could feed the HI I expanded there as well as supply the ships based there. Plus, there were not that many refineries damaged when I took the place.

For Palembang, I am repairing both the oil and the refineries because this is a self-financing operation. Right now the refinery there is producing over 730 supply points a day. Those supply points can be plowed right back into repairing both the refinery and the oil centers.

As to repairing oil centers, I have been repairing Miri, Samarinda (not much damage there, but some) and Palembang. I am repairing the oil centers so that these installations will produced more oil than is consumed by the refineries there. That will leave an excess of oil that can then be sent to the HI.

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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 3:45:29 AM   
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As long as you have excess supply, repair your oil centers, until they are in range of Allied bombers.


I agree. At least I end up with same result in my analysis.

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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 5:04:26 AM   
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Refinary never pays for itself as you have access at home , for oil repairs  your break even point is the second half of 44.


I am not quite sure I understand how you break even on oil. A refinery produces supply so it can pay back (after 1000 days) the supply spent repairing it. But an oil center just produces oil.

At any rate, the only refineries I am repairing are those at Palembang (since this is self-financing, don't need to bring in extra supply) and one at Sorebaja. The Sorebaja refinery is being repaired because I want the extra fuel on Java to supply the HI centers there that I have expanded along with naval assets I have based there.



Most Oil goes to HI .. Which produces supplies, that oil compared to repair cost has the payback. I wouldnt repair refineries ever - ship it to your other refineries.


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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 5:40:18 AM   
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There seems to be a basic misconception here: that the home islands have excess refining capacity. That is not true. Right now tracker is telling me that for the Honshu/Kyushu/Shikoku group 8950 oil points are consumed per day to make 8055 fuel points. Those 8055 fuel points are not enough to feed even the heavy industry, much less any of your shipping (most importantly your resource convoys). Heavy industry alone consumes 12150 fuel points per day. This results in a daily deficit of 4085 fuel points. That mean every single day you need to bring in 4085 fuel points just to feed your factories. (Note: I have not expanded my HI in the home islands. In fact, the only places I have expanded HI are Singapore, Batavia, and Sorebaja.)

For the home islands to have excess refining capacity, they would have to be producing more fuel than is consumed by the heavy industry. In that case it would make sense to just bring oil back to the home islands where it could be turned into fuel. But this is not the case. Your refineries in the home islands cannot keep up with demand no matter how much oil you bring home. You need those refineries in the SRA because you need that fuel which the home islands by themselves cannot make enough of.


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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 5:50:44 AM   
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There seems to be a basic misconception here: that the home islands have excess refining capacity. That is not true. Right now tracker is telling me that for the Honshu/Kyushu/Shikoku group 8950 oil points are consumed per day to make 8055 fuel points. Those 8055 fuel points are not enough to feed even the heavy industry, much less any of your shipping (most importantly your resource convoys). Heavy industry alone consumes 12150 fuel points per day. This results in a daily deficit of 4085 fuel points. That mean every single day you need to bring in 4085 fuel points just to feed your factories. (Note: I have not expanded my HI in the home islands. In fact, the only places I have expanded HI are Singapore, Batavia, and Sorebaja.)

For the home islands to have excess refining capacity, they would have to be producing more fuel than is consumed by the heavy industry. In that case it would make sense to just bring oil back to the home islands where it could be turned into fuel. But this is not the case. Your refineries in the home islands cannot keep up with demand no matter how much oil you bring home. You need those refineries in the SRA because you need that fuel which the home islands by themselves cannot make enough of.


Obviously its best to ship fuel home from the DEI , there is still oil left afterwards and if you ship this oil home you have a surplus. ie DEI+ Home refinaries is > than total oil production hence repairing any is futile ( since its only 9% better to ship fuel than oil) .






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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 1:54:34 PM   
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There seems to be a basic misconception here: that the home islands have excess refining capacity. That is not true. Right now tracker is telling me that for the Honshu/Kyushu/Shikoku group 8950 oil points are consumed per day to make 8055 fuel points. Those 8055 fuel points are not enough to feed even the heavy industry, much less any of your shipping (most importantly your resource convoys). Heavy industry alone consumes 12150 fuel points per day. This results in a daily deficit of 4085 fuel points. That mean every single day you need to bring in 4085 fuel points just to feed your factories. (Note: I have not expanded my HI in the home islands. In fact, the only places I have expanded HI are Singapore, Batavia, and Sorebaja.)

For the home islands to have excess refining capacity, they would have to be producing more fuel than is consumed by the heavy industry. In that case it would make sense to just bring oil back to the home islands where it could be turned into fuel. But this is not the case. Your refineries in the home islands cannot keep up with demand no matter how much oil you bring home. You need those refineries in the SRA because you need that fuel which the home islands by themselves cannot make enough of.




Initially, there is a large reserve of oil in Honshu (~2.75 million oil). Therefore, the refineries are all functioning at capacity. They use 8850 oil per day while Japan produces 1560 oil per day. There is a net reduction of ~7300 oil per day. The oil reserves will last about 375 days. After that, there will be 730 idle refineries. When we talk about excess refinery capacity, we mean starting ~1 Jan 43. Excess oil from the SRA needs to be shipped to Japan to push that date to the right. Every 7300 oil shipped to Japan pushes that date one day to the right.

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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 1:54:34 PM   
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RE: The Big Kahuna - 3/19/2010 2:28:19 PM   
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Every 7300 oil shipped to Japan pushes that date one day to the right.


Nicely phrased. Concise. Wish I could do this ...

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Radar Day - 3/20/2010 4:04:10 AM   
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Today I found out that a whole bunch of my aviation units can upgrade to having radar. I had found some base forces with radar that I had bought out of Manchuria. I also found a base force on Luzon with radar. So I decided to find out from tracker just how many radar units were in use. While looking at the device list I realized that all those sound detector units could upgrade to radar starting way back in March! Well, after that discovery I went around the map selecting aviation units where I needed to turn replacements on. Not everyone is getting this treatment, mainly units in areas where there are lots and lots of supplies, or in areas where I would expect to be attacked by LBA.

Another large amount of time was spent arranging for ship conversions and upgrades. Do you know beyond just finding the stupid ships that can be converted, it takes 6 clicks to do the conversion? One click to pick the ship. Second click to pick the conversion. Third click to confirm the convesion. Fourth click to change from Shipyard to Pierside repair mode. (Don't want to use valuable shipyard space for these conversions.) Fifth click to confirm that change. Sixth click to get back to the list of ships so you can start the next conversion.

KB 1 reached Singapore and the Zui/Sho-kaku pair were disbanded with upgrade set to on so they can get their radar sets. In fact, most of KB 1 was disbanded in order to undergo maintenance and get rid of their accumulated sys damage.

A regiment at Sorebaja is currently loading on AKs for the assault on Darwin. This assault will be preceded by a bombardment by 3xBBs and 6 or 7xCAs. I would really like to suppress the CD guns so I don't lose any more AKs. Even though I am going to have an awful lot of them by the end of June, I still don't like losing these guys.

My 5 divisions on Luzon have made it back to Manila where they will board ship for various destinations. They are rather fagged out, so they will rest for a few turns before embarking. The first order of business here will be cleaning up the rest of the Philippines.

Below is a map detailing my efforts to deal with the sub menace around Palembang/Singapore. My float planes are getting quite good at ASW. A float plane from the Mizhio which is escorting a fuel convoy to the HI reportedly got a hit on a US sub about 180 miles west of Bataan.





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RE: Radar Day - 3/21/2010 2:10:00 AM   
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Sabang, the northern most base on Sumatra, and the last coastal base on that island was captured today. There are two interior dot bases that I am not going to bother capturing. Sebang will become a base from which to patrol the Bay of Bengal.

Operations to clean up the Philippines began today.

Mostly what I am doing is capturing dots in various areas and building up bases, particularly in the eastern DEI and in the Solomons/New Guinea regions. I am also developing the Marshals and Gilberts.

Witpqs obviously feels a little more secure at the moment. Tahiti just went to a size two port and Christmas Island has been expanding. My guess is that he worked on the fortifications first before developed the other facilities. He has been building India up quite a bit, and today the airfield at Colombo expanded to size 5. This raises an interesting possibility. If I were interested in the auto-victory, Ceylon might be a way to get there. He no doubt has a large number of troops there. And I bet he would commit his naval forces to a defense of the island. This would give the opportunity, then, of capturing large numbers of troops and sinking a good deal of allied naval forces. Thing is, I am not as ballsy as PzB, or even String, who has launched a very large and very late (mid-June) offensive against Fiji. I like picking off understrength garrisons. A full fledged multi-division fight is not something I relish.


Darwin should be invaded in a about 3 or 4 days.

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RE: Radar Day - 3/21/2010 5:40:34 AM   
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Looks like a death  trap to me for subs..throw in some mines as well.

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