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68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 12:28:09 PM   
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the event that finally brought the US into WWII took place............lest we not forget those who gave it all on that fateful morning !!!

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 12:30:19 PM   
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"To have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. Now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!...Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder" -- Winston Churchill

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 12:31:56 PM   
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My deepest respect for those who gave their lifes in that conflict.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 12:44:03 PM   
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One of my favourite stories of the events of that day, is that Buzz Wagner, one of the few American pilots to get aloft, and fight the Japanese, was also in the P 38 flight which intercepted Yamamoto's Betty transport flight..

This was his plane at Pearl.




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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 12:55:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: m10bob

One of my favourite stories of the events of that day, is that Buzz Wagner, one of the few American pilots to get aloft, and fight the Japanese, was also in the P 38 flight which intercepted Yamamoto's Betty transport flight..

This was his plane at Pearl.





huh??

My recollection is he was based in the PI, not at Pearl. And died (MIA) late 1942, when Yamamoto died April 1943? Unless there is another Buzz Wagner?

Anyway, my thoughts are also with the heros of that day. Be it in Pearl or in SE Asia. Or those unknown to us. Lest we forget!

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 12:59:18 PM   
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Say, wasn't there a movie about this event? I can't quite remember the name. Pearl something... It'll come to me.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 2:30:06 PM   
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Yes we must never forget the sacrifices of those at Pearl and many other battles. It's my intention to one day visit the Arizona Memorial and pay my respects.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 3:27:50 PM   
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Yes we must never forget the sacrifices of those at Pearl and many other battles. It's my intention to one day visit the Arizona Memorial and pay my respects.



ha, don't forget the millions of civilians who got bombed to death by the "liberators" ..

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 3:31:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dorjun driver

Say, wasn't there a movie about this event? I can't quite remember the name. Pearl something... It'll come to me.


yes , it was called tora! tora! tora!

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 3:38:37 PM   
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"To have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. Now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!...Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder" -- Winston Churchill


Thank you, Sprior. The USA gets called so many negative thigns by so many nations (including our own) that it is incredibly encouraging to hear somebody say or quote something nice about us.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 3:44:07 PM   
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Yes we must never forget the sacrifices of those at Pearl and many other battles. It's my intention to one day visit the Arizona Memorial and pay my respects.

ha, don't forget the millions of civilians who got bombed to death by the "liberators" ..


The Allies definately should have conducted the war in such a way as to not harm any civilians. The fact that civilians are in the area should have prevented the Allies from bombing or otherwise targeting railroads in France, industry in Belgium, chemicals in Germany, airfields in Italy, oil fields in Romania, naval assets in Norway, reinforced defensive positions on Okinawa, shipbuilding and warehouses in Japan, vital rail and road junctions in Malaya, or any other military target where there was any chance that civilians might be hurt.


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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 3:50:38 PM   
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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 3:59:37 PM   
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War is a  great tragedy for man and it's sad that our technology grows by leaps and bounds during it.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 4:03:11 PM   
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A moment of silence, and my deepest respect for those who died on 7 Dec 41.

And THANK YOU to all the veterans of WWII. Your sacrifices were not in vain, nor are they forgotten.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 4:05:48 PM   
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My respects to all those who served their nations with honor.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 4:09:14 PM   
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ha, don't forget the millions of civilians who got bombed to death by the "liberators" .


I didn't start this as a pro or con deal.................only to honor the sacrifices of the servicemen and civilians that paid a price BEFORE a war had been declared so BUG OFF on my threads from now on! DAMMIT THAT BURNS MY BUTT...... cant even post a thread about PEARL HARBOR without someone highjacking it for theor own purposes...........start your own leave mine alone!

PS..........like the AXIS powers never bombed or killed civilians!!!

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 4:13:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior

"To have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. Now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!...Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder" -- Winston Churchill

Hear hear.

It was a dark day in American history. We've seen them before PH and we'll see them again.

It was also a good day for the rest of the allied world at arms. Total war cast the die fatefully against the Axis machine. For Americans, PH is a promise of victory to come, but at great current cost.

Remember those that gave their all.

For those of you (Americans) out there that haven't yet visited the Arizona memorial in PH, you owe it to yourselves to do so while there are still some WWII vets alive to tell the tale.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 4:14:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: captskillet

quote:

ha, don't forget the millions of civilians who got bombed to death by the "liberators" .


I didn't start this as a pro or con deal.................only to honor the sacrifices of the servicemen and civilians that paid a price BEFORE a war had been declared so BUG OFF on my threads from now on! DAMMIT THAT BURNS MY BUTT...... cant even post a thread about PEARL HARBOR without someone highjacking it for theor own purposes...........start your own leave mine alone!

PS..........like the AXIS powers never bombed or killed civilians!!!

Cap,

Try the green button on people that cannot be reasonably courteous. I find it very refreshing.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 5:07:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GB68


quote:

ORIGINAL: m10bob

One of my favourite stories of the events of that day, is that Buzz Wagner, one of the few American pilots to get aloft, and fight the Japanese, was also in the P 38 flight which intercepted Yamamoto's Betty transport flight..

This was his plane at Pearl.





huh??

My recollection is he was based in the PI, not at Pearl. And died (MIA) late 1942, when Yamamoto died April 1943? Unless there is another Buzz Wagner?

Anyway, my thoughts are also with the heros of that day. Be it in Pearl or in SE Asia. Or those unknown to us. Lest we forget!

From Wienie Roasting
Boyd David Wagner
1941- The first Ace in World War II was First Lieutenant Boyd David Wagner of Johnstown, PA. On December 11th, Lieutenant Boyd D. 'Buzz' Wagner, Commander of the 17th Pursuit Squadron, took off on a one-man reconnaissance mission to observe the Japanese landings at Aparri.As he flew over Aparri, Wagner could not resist decending lower to strafe the enemy.In doing so, he was jumped by five Zeros. To escape, 'Buzz' rolled over and dived for the sea, but he failed to escape from two of the Zeros following him. He suddenly chopped his power and the enemy planes zoomed passed him and came into his gun sights. 'Buzz' blazed away with his machine-guns and the two zeros burst into flames.In a daring maneuver, Lt.Wagner made another pass coming back low over the water.The Japanese were surprised. 'Buzz' strafed 12 parked Zeros, and left, leaving several planes burning.The U.S. Command was not pleased with Wagner's extra air involvement on the mission.However, his actions were soon overlooked. Several days later 'Buzz' Wagner headed a flight of three P-40s against an enemy-held field at Vigan, Philippines.Lt.Wagner and his wingmen, Lieutenants Church and Strauss began to rip up the field with 30-pound fragmentation bombs. Wagner was later awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for his exploits at Vigan.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 6:09:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dorjun driver

Say, wasn't there a movie about this event? I can't quite remember the name. Pearl something... It'll come to me.


Yeah, it was called Tora Tora Tora. You must have a faulty memory.

Thanks to all those who fought and served during WWII in the US military.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 6:23:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: captskillet

the event that finally brought the US into WWII took place............lest we not forget those who gave it all on that fateful morning !!!


Good idea captskillet. And thanks to all who served, and are serving now.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 6:26:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: P.Hausser

quote:

ORIGINAL: moonraker

Yes we must never forget the sacrifices of those at Pearl and many other battles. It's my intention to one day visit the Arizona Memorial and pay my respects.



ha, don't forget the millions of civilians who got bombed to death by the "liberators" ..


But I will forget you. Asshats like yourself are what the greenbutton is for

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 6:38:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: scott1964


quote:

ORIGINAL: GB68


quote:

ORIGINAL: m10bob

One of my favourite stories of the events of that day, is that Buzz Wagner, one of the few American pilots to get aloft, and fight the Japanese, was also in the P 38 flight which intercepted Yamamoto's Betty transport flight..

This was his plane at Pearl.





huh??

My recollection is he was based in the PI, not at Pearl. And died (MIA) late 1942, when Yamamoto died April 1943? Unless there is another Buzz Wagner?

Anyway, my thoughts are also with the heros of that day. Be it in Pearl or in SE Asia. Or those unknown to us. Lest we forget!

From Wienie Roasting
Boyd David Wagner
1941- The first Ace in World War II was First Lieutenant Boyd David Wagner of Johnstown, PA. On December 11th, Lieutenant Boyd D. 'Buzz' Wagner, Commander of the 17th Pursuit Squadron, took off on a one-man reconnaissance mission to observe the Japanese landings at Aparri.As he flew over Aparri, Wagner could not resist decending lower to strafe the enemy.In doing so, he was jumped by five Zeros. To escape, 'Buzz' rolled over and dived for the sea, but he failed to escape from two of the Zeros following him. He suddenly chopped his power and the enemy planes zoomed passed him and came into his gun sights. 'Buzz' blazed away with his machine-guns and the two zeros burst into flames.In a daring maneuver, Lt.Wagner made another pass coming back low over the water.The Japanese were surprised. 'Buzz' strafed 12 parked Zeros, and left, leaving several planes burning.The U.S. Command was not pleased with Wagner's extra air involvement on the mission.However, his actions were soon overlooked. Several days later 'Buzz' Wagner headed a flight of three P-40s against an enemy-held field at Vigan, Philippines.Lt.Wagner and his wingmen, Lieutenants Church and Strauss began to rip up the field with 30-pound fragmentation bombs. Wagner was later awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for his exploits at Vigan.



Tank you..I stand corrected..No idea how I was off that bad...

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 8:39:13 PM   
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Salute to all those who gave everything that day.

Has a bit of a personal note for me, as my father-in-law was at Pearl Harbor during the attack on Dec 7th.



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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 9:03:56 PM   
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My mom has birthday today so i never have problems with remebering the date

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 9:43:46 PM   
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A moment of silence for a world in pain.

And only my second every Green Button.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 10:29:46 PM   
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God bless America and may the victims rest in peace.

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 10:49:16 PM   
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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 11:10:20 PM   
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You do know that it's just not quite cricket to quote yourself, don't you?

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RE: 68 Years ago today............. - 12/7/2009 11:39:44 PM   
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My father's cousin was stationed on the West Virginia at Pearl on December 7th. Fortunately for him he was on shore leave after partying on Saturday night.  He was scheduled to be back to the ship by 6 AM Sunday morning but was inebriated from the night before and did not make it back in time. He went on to survive the war and passed on in 2005. Hopefully he and his shipmates that have passed are resting in peace. God bless America.


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