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You have to laugh at this fight - 10/20/2009 9:56:41 PM   
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To set up this event, Jap convoy is off loading at Green Is, and the Danae moves down from Rabaul to intervene, a group of PT boats joins into the fray. Much to my surprise there are 61 ships in the group. Can you just picture this scene......

Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!...
Japanese TF begins to get underway...
Reduced sighting due to 57% moonlight...
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 57% moonlight: 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards......
Range closes to 2,000 yards......
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards...
Butler, F.J. crosses the 'T'...
xAK Tempei Maru collides with xAK Nanrei Maru , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAK Fukko Maru at 2,000 yards...
xAK Nissen Maru collides with xAK Nanrei Maru at 108 , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAK Fukko Maru at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards...
xAK Hukuyo Maru collides with xAK Nanrei Maru at 108 , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAK Fukko Maru at 3,000 yards...
Range increases to 4,000 yards...
xAK Fukko Maru sunk by CL Danae at 4,000 yards...
xAK Miho Maru collides with xAK Kensin Maru at 108 , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAK Hakodate Maru at 4,000 yards...
xAKL Kofuku Maru collides with xAK Nanrei Maru at 108 , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAK Hakodate Maru at 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range increases to 4,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Iwashiro Maru at 4,000 yards...
Range increases to 6,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yamafuku Maru at 6,000 yards...
Range increases to 7,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Hakodate Maru at 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yamafuku Maru at 6,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yamafuku Maru at 6,000 yards...
Range increases to 8,000 yards...
xAKL Kongo Maru #2 collides with xAK Nanrei Maru at 108 , 127 ...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
xAKL Kurama Maru collides with xAK Nanrei Maru at 108 , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAK Yamafuku Maru at 7,000 yards...
Range increases to 8,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yamafuku Maru at 8,000 yards...
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape...
Task forces break off......

It only gets worse

Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!...
Japanese TF begins to get underway...
Reduced sighting due to 57% moonlight...
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 57% moonlight: 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards......
Range closes to 8,000 yards......
Range closes to 6,000 yards......
Range closes to 4,000 yards......
Range closes to 2,000 yards......
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Yubari Maru at 2,000 yards...
xAK Macassar Maru sunk by PT-27 at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Uyo Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-22 engages xAK Yasuteru Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Taigen Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Minryo Maru at 2,000 yards...
xAKL Kyuei Maru collides with xAK Kensin Maru at 108 , 127 ...
PT-36 engages xAK Kisogawa Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-29 engages xAK Yuri Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-25 engages xAK Uyo Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tempei Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-22 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-21 engages xAK Yuri Maru at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards...
xAKL Yamayuri Maru collides with xAK Kensin Maru at 108 , 127 ...
PT-29 engages xAK Yuri Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-20 engages xAK Yuri Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Yasuteru Maru at 3,000 yards...
xAK Yuri Maru sunk by PT-29 at 3,000 yards...
PT-29 engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Taigen Maru at 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
xAK Taikei Maru collides with xAK Rokko Maru at 108 , 127 ...
PT-37 engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tofuku Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tempei Maru at 2,000 yards...
xAK Uyo Maru sunk by PT-23 at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Oigawa Maru at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tofuku Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-25 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-29 engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Sumiyoshi Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Rakuto Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Yasuteru Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-29 engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-25 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-21 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Nittai Maru at 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tofuku Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-25 engages xAK Tempei Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-24 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Somedono Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-20 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAKL Kyuei Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAKL Kamishima Maru at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards...
PT-29 engages xAK Tatuha Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAKL Kidokawa Maru at 3,000 yards...
xAK Tatuha Maru sunk by PT-24 at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Somedono Maru at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Shirashika Maru at 3,000 yards...
Task forces break off......

They are not done playing bumper cars trying to get away


llied Ships Reported to be Approaching!...
Japanese TF begins to get underway...
Reduced sighting due to 57% moonlight...
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 57% moonlight: 1,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards......
Range closes to 10,000 yards......
Range closes to 9,000 yards......
Range closes to 8,000 yards......
Range closes to 7,000 yards......
Range closes to 6,000 yards......
Range closes to 5,000 yards......
Range closes to 4,000 yards......
Range closes to 3,000 yards......
Range closes to 2,000 yards......
Range closes to 1,000 yards......
PT-37 engages xAK Yasuteru Maru at 1,000 yards...
PT-36 engages xAK Taigen Maru at 1,000 yards...
PT-29 engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 1,000 yards...
PT-27 engages xAK Taigen Maru at 1,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tempei Maru at 1,000 yards...
PT-22 engages xAK Taigen Maru at 1,000 yards...
xAK Shirashika Maru sunk by PT-21 at 1,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Kensin Maru at 1,000 yards...
Gamble, L. orders Allied TF to disengage...
Range increases to 2,000 yards...
xAKL Daigen Maru collides with xAK Rokko Maru at 108 , 127 ...
PT-37 engages xAK Taigen Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Tofuku Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-21 engages xAK Taigen Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-22 engages xAK Somedono Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAK Minryo Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAKL Kasui Maru at 2,000 yards...
Task forces break off.

CL Danae has to get some more before she heads home....



Reduced sighting due to 67% moonlight...
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards......
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards...
Japanese ships attempt to get underway...
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards...
xAK Taigen Maru collides with xAK Tasmania Maru at 108 , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAKL Kurama Maru at 9,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Jusan Maru at 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yasuteru Maru at 3,000 yards...
xAK Ishikari Maru collides with xAK Taifuku Maru at 108 , 127 ...
xAKL Taiyo Maru collides with xAK Taifuku Maru at 108 , 127 ...
CL Danae engages xAK Yasuteru Maru at 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yasuteru Maru at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards...
xAK Yasuteru Maru sunk by CL Danae at 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 2,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAKL Kaisyo Maru at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 2,000 yards...
Butler, F.J. orders Allied TF to disengage...
CL Danae engages xAK Yuzan Maru at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 6,000 yards...
xAK Nittai Maru collides with xAK Hankow Maru at 108 , 127 ...
xAK Yuzan Maru sunk by CL Danae at 6,000 yards...
Range increases to 11,000 yards...
CL Danae engages xAK Kensin Maru at 11,000 yards...
Task forces break off......

It was a bad night to be a merchant man this night

Two days later the PT boats come back and this time there was an escort....


Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk
PC Sumire, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
TB Kamo, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Hokoku Maru, Shell hits 3

Allied Ships
PT-20, Shell hits 1
PT-21
PT-22
PT-23
PT-24, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PT-25
PT-27
PT-29
PT-36
PT-37



Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!...
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway...
Improved night sighting under 78% moonlight...
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 78% moonlight: 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards......
Range closes to 6,000 yards......
Range closes to 3,000 yards......
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 3,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 3,000 yards...
PT-37 engages CA Mogami at 3,000 yards...
CA Mogami engages PT-36 at 3,000 yards...
CA Mogami engages PT-29 at 3,000 yards...
CA Mogami engages PT-25 at 3,000 yards...
CA Mogami engages PT-23 at 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
PC Sumire engages PT-29 at 2,000 yards...
TB Kamo engages PT-21 at 2,000 yards...
TB Kamo engages PT-20 at 2,000 yards...
CA Mogami engages PT-37 at 2,000 yards...
CA Mogami engages PT-36 at 2,000 yards...
PC Sumire engages PT-37 at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAP Hokoku Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-25 engages PC Sumire at 2,000 yards...
PT-22 engages TB Kamo at 2,000 yards...
TB Kamo sunk by PT-20 at 2,000 yards...
CA Mogami engages PT-37 at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAP Hokoku Maru at 2,000 yards...
PC Sumire engages PT-25 at 2,000 yards...
PT-24 and CA Mogami duel to the end at 2,000 yards...
PC Sumire engages PT-21 at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages PC Sumire at 2,000 yards...
PC Sumire engages PT-23 at 2,000 yards...
PT-20 engages PC Sumire at 2,000 yards...
PT-37 engages xAP Hokoku Maru at 2,000 yards...
PT-29 engages PC Sumire at 2,000 yards...
PC Sumire engages PT-23 at 2,000 yards...
PT-36 engages PC Sumire at 2,000 yards...
PT-22 engages PC Sumire at 2,000 yards...
PC Sumire engages PT-20 at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 3,000 yards...
Range increases to 8,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Task forces break off......


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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/20/2009 10:02:24 PM   
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Looks like the "escorts" were a day late and a dollar short...   Though if I was playing the Japanese, I don't think I'd be laughing (tearing your hair out by the roots HURTS!) 

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/20/2009 10:26:34 PM   
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wow, what a nice one ! ... duel to the end....great stuff !

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/20/2009 10:37:09 PM   
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Yeah... the Bumper Car convoy vs. the plywood demons.

Wonder who won the duel to the end between Mogami and PT24??? Any takers for the PT? If so, I know some great dry land for sale about sixty miles East of Naples, FL.

LORD, Have Mercy... I just saw that the Mogami ate six torpedos... All Real Estate deals are off!

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/20/2009 10:58:13 PM   
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Six torps.  I don't think PT-24 was alone in targeting Mogami.  ALL the PT boats dueled with Mogami to the death.....Mogami's!

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 12:51:32 AM   
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collisions
a cargo of Saki me thinks!

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 1:31:01 AM   
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quote:

PT-24 and CA Mogami duel to the end at 2,000 yards...


When message like this shows up it means both ships were sunk... Poor Mogami.

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 3:59:30 AM   
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Butler, F.J. crosses the 'T'

I never see that message playing Harpoon I think.

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 11:58:32 AM   
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Damn! How do you get such results with PTs? Mine just disengage even if I send them under friggin Blackbeard!

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 12:47:01 PM   
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Very nice AAR..I like the idea of multiple collisions when the fox gets in the henhouse!...Sure seems real to me..

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 1:24:55 PM   
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Amazing,  all that damage done to the Jap freighters and not a single shot hit them...  (at least not from the above reports)

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 4:00:22 PM   
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The Nanrei Maru must have been hauling a huge magnet....6 different ships collided with her.

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 5:24:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

The Nanrei Maru must have been hauling a huge magnet....6 different ships collided with her.



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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 5:28:38 PM   
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The Mogami and all those collisions.

Coincidence?

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 6:33:53 PM   
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You decide!!!

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 8:19:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

The Nanrei Maru must have been hauling a huge magnet....6 different ships collided with her.



Startling what can happen when the OSS infiltrates an agent as a lowly helmsman on a minor, inconsequential xAK.

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 8:37:16 PM   
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Early on in my CG one of my Asiatic TF's intercepted an invasion TF near Tawi Tawi, and several transports collided with each other during the melee.  Then the escorting surface TF engaged my cruisers, and Nachi ended up colliding with a destroyer, and then Mikuma rammed another one.  It was quite fun watching all that take place...

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 8:54:09 PM   
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Collisions are nasty I had 2 of my fleet oilers collide between the west coast and Pearl and I don't know if I can get them to port in time. . .

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 8:56:16 PM   
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Ouch.That would suck to have that many ships collide in one engagement.I feel bad for poor PT-24 who had to duel til the end against that Cruiser though...

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/21/2009 9:00:37 PM   
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Can ships collide just sailing along ?

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/22/2009 1:54:57 PM   
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Don't 4get what happened to PT-109 in the Solomons Slot in early '43... cut in half by a Jap DD quite by accident.  And especially don't 4get who was in charge of her!

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/22/2009 4:37:19 PM   
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4 collisions in one turn, why it's the self sinking Japanese fleet, can't wait till this happens with someones's carriers!


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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/22/2009 4:53:56 PM   
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You know, the results are exactly what I would expect from an oversized, underprotected merchant convoy docked at a small facility. The designers got it just right here. Two many ships at a small port try to scatter in a panic and total mayhem results.

The detail to the game is amazing. In AE you can still make and use massive cargo and transport convoys but is it wise to send them anywhere but to a large port? In WITP my favorite tactic was to use multiple six to seven surface TF to overwhelm my opponent, but in AE this tactic often results in ships crashing into each other. Brilliant!

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/22/2009 8:00:47 PM   
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Good grief. What a mess.

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RE: You have to laugh at this fight - 10/22/2009 10:55:46 PM   
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Can you imagine a historian 50 years later trying to piece this mess together for a book?

Could you refrain from buying such a book?

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