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New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:10:19 PM   
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So I have flown in an airplane before, and I once watched the movie " 12 O'Clock High ", so that should be good enough for me to be able to start playing this game at an expert level immediately shouldn't it ?

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RE: New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:14:08 PM   
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If you've got a handle-bar moustache then you're all set.  

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RE: New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:18:29 PM   
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If you've got a handle-bar moustache then you're all set.  


Oops, i guess I need to start working on that.

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RE: New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:23:29 PM   
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Wear a scarf and goggles while you play. I hear it helps.

Who knows maybe your wife or girlfriend may like your new look as well.

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RE: New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:34:37 PM   
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if your really, really a rookie, start off with the one day BoB battles, that will get your feet wet with out being too overwelmed

BTR can be overwelming

but even then, you can start up the long campaign and just play one area of the map, and only plan on running a day or two and see what you can see, and start again

(during testing that is what I do)

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RE: New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:38:55 PM   
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If you've got a handle-bar moustache then you're all set.  


You also need to be able to do proper RAF banter, utilizing such phrases as

Bally Jerry
Cabbage Crates Over The Briney
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How's Your Father




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RE: New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:50:35 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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If you've got a handle-bar moustache then you're all set.  


You also need to be able to do proper RAF banter, utilizing such phrases as

Bally Jerry
Cabbage Crates Over The Briney
Top Hole
How's Your Father




Geez, more lingo. It took me a week or more to figure out what KB, DEI, Mini KB, etc meant. Oh well, off to look up Brit flyboy WW2 slang.

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RE: New to the game - 9/23/2009 7:56:33 PM   
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LOL, just wait, if you can follow me and T, you got it licked, if we bring Brady over, you will be overwelmed, he spells worse then I does



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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 1:20:04 AM   
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So this is a "War in the Pacific" in the  air version ?  Same level of Depth and Details ?

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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 1:22:27 AM   
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So this is a "War in the Pacific" in the  air version ?  Same level of Depth and Details ?


Yes, pretty much.

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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 1:29:33 AM   
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So this is a "War in the Pacific" in the  air version ?  Same level of Depth and Details ?


Yes, pretty much.


I thought so, I was getting the War in the Pacific "feel" with the screenshots, specially the menus.

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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 10:50:24 AM   
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A little question, the game only have the "little god" game play or you can play the role of a high commander setting strategies and leaving mission planning to the AI??? i like see what do the AI and start to "attack" my screen with insults when hehehe.

Thanks.

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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 11:05:53 AM   
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Hi Hexagon,

You can have the AI set missions according to air command in the 'Set Bomber Targets's screen.....you can tell them to assign missions to specific industry types etc.

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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 3:30:54 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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So this is a "War in the Pacific" in the  air version ?  Same level of Depth and Details ?


Yes, pretty much.


Hmm.. thought it is Air Battle ala Acthung Spitfire !! What a great game that was ...

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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 10:27:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: V22 Osprey


quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins


quote:

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So this is a "War in the Pacific" in the  air version ?  Same level of Depth and Details ?


Yes, pretty much.


I thought so, I was getting the War in the Pacific "feel" with the screenshots, specially the menus.


Except with 10 minute turns as the defending side!!! It's a good thing you can alter the time rate!!!

Truely a huge game to play the full campaigns but loads of fun though...



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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 10:32:37 PM   
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So Terminus what do the phrases mean?
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If you've got a handle-bar moustache then you're all set.  


You also need to be able to do proper RAF banter, utilizing such phrases as

Bally Jerry
Cabbage Crates Over The Briney
Top Hole
How's Your Father






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RE: New to the game - 9/24/2009 11:56:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins


quote:

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So this is a "War in the Pacific" in the  air version ?  Same level of Depth and Details ?


Yes, pretty much.


I thought so, I was getting the War in the Pacific "feel" with the screenshots, specially the menus.


You going to try to talk your parents into this one?



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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 12:46:10 AM   
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I thought so, I was getting the War in the Pacific "feel" with the screenshots, specially the menus.


Yes, I looked at the old game with the tiny window, then looked at War-Plan Orange, and used that as a template. I like the result...

The gameplay is completely different though.

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 10:00:11 AM   
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So this is a "War in the Pacific" in the  air version ?  Same level of Depth and Details ?


Yes, pretty much.


Not disagreeing with Erik, but I would, with respect, put it slightly differently.

The feeling of detail is very similar to WitP, but the learning curve is a little less daunting. WitP looks at all environments (land, sea, air) and aspects of the war in the Pacific Theatre, whilst EDBTR looks at just one - air. But it does then go into that bit greater depth than air in WitP - you are plotting individual raids, selecting primary and secondary targets, planning tactically sound ingress and egress routes, controlling your flak deployments. So the overall feeling of depth and detail is the same, as for Gary G games - just in slightly different but significant places.

I loved this when Talonsoft released it in 1999. Ten years on, I love it even more. Real thanks to Matrix for rescuing it and allowing us the chance to put ten years of playing experience into updating the wee beast.

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 1:10:35 PM   
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Ok, thanks for the info.

Oooo another little question, somebody can post the scen list and length of them??? thanks

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 1:27:53 PM   
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this is a list of campaigns and their length
Eagle Day:
BoB one day
BoB one week
BoB one month
BoB full (79 days)

BoB41 one day
BoB41 one week
BoB41 one month
BoB41 full (184 days)

Bombing the Reich:
BTR one day (intro)
BTR full (700 days)
BTR Nachtjagd I (44 days)
BTR Avalanche (60 days)

BTR44 full (500 days)
BTR44 Jet Age (500 days)
BTR44 Nachtjagd II (42 days)
BTR44 Big Week (7 days)
BTR44 Oil (7 days)
BTR44 Oil II (42 days)
BTR44 Nachtjagd III (42 days)
BTR44 Overlord I (123 days)
BTR44 Overlord II (89 days)

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 2:28:07 PM   
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Where is the entire war campaign game?

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 3:30:44 PM   
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The game contains only those campaign, that are written on the previous post. There is no campaign through 1939 to 1945 years. The longest campaign are in Bombing the Reich 1943 Full campaign with 700 turns and 1944 Full campaign and Jet Age campaign with 500 turns.

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 4:13:32 PM   
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Thank you very much mikkey, an interesting list... ummm is the game that can be moded??? has tools to do it???

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 4:33:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie

If you've got a handle-bar moustache then you're all set.  


You also need to be able to do proper RAF banter, utilizing such phrases as

Bally Jerry
Cabbage Crates Over The Briney
Top Hole
How's Your Father






And dont forget" Off you go Lads, give us a Song"

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 4:38:15 PM   
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Thank you very much mikkey, an interesting list... ummm is the game that can be moded??? has tools to do it???


no, other then art work

too much of the game is HARD Coded, so the data can very easily break something if it is changed, plus, a lot of the data, has different meanings and with out knowing what all of the little "extras" are and what they are for, it is very easy to break the game



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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 6:22:59 PM   
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Ok, well we cant see a WWI mod or a Pacific mod 

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 6:30:36 PM   
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hmmmm, some of the early Zepplin raids would be interesting, of course, the turn would take forever

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 7:53:12 PM   
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Well, i think more in the flying circus  but see air fleets could be interesting ummm it remember to me a game based on the great "Dawn Patrol" but in a fantasy world... ooo i dont remember the name but can take off from a Zeppelin Carrier and fight VS pirates, and zepelin fleets 

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RE: New to the game - 9/25/2009 9:00:44 PM   
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@Hexagon: Crimson Skies.

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