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Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 4:44:14 AM   
KG Erwin


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Status: offline 		This is an interesting TV documentary series on a Marine Recon Company involved in the Iraq War. The focus is on the mission, NOT the politics. It is being shown on the Military Channel. These guys know their jobs and are thoroughly professional. Sure, the cultural differences are obvious, but deep down these are the same US Marines that have fought in any other war of the previous century. I recommend that you try to catch an episode.

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 4:50:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've tried to find that one on DVD but I can't seem to get it.

I did get the Generation Kill series and that was pretty good.


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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 4:57:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jeffrey H, remember this: Generation Kill is a fictional series. Alpha Company is about real life Marines. See this page: http://military.discovery.com/tuneins/alpha-company.html

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 5:08:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, it's not a real fiction in the normal sense. It wasn't a pure documentary either. It was more of a representation of the book, which was an embedded reporters story, first person.
 

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 5:26:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		But you ARE able to tell the difference, aren't you? Alpha Company is real. Generation Kill isn't.

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 5:28:40 AM   
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Well, it's not a real fiction in the normal sense. It wasn't a pure documentary either. It was more of a representation of the book, which was an embedded reporters story, first person.

And that reporter was in the serie too. Generation Kill was aired around here just recently and I watched every episode of it. I know it's still made with actors, but hey, how close it comes the reality?

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 7:41:24 PM   
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But you ARE able to tell the difference, aren't you? Alpha Company is real. Generation Kill isn't.


Oh sure, I get what you mean. actors vs. soldiers, sets vs. real time, scripts vs. uncripted scenes etc.. That part is obvious. If you're trying to imply that GK the series misrepresents the reporters first person perspective, I'd disagree.

But Alpha co is harder to get on DVD. I need to check on Netflix again.

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/22/2009 7:43:13 PM   
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Well, it's not a real fiction in the normal sense. It wasn't a pure documentary either. It was more of a representation of the book, which was an embedded reporters story, first person.

And that reporter was in the serie too. Generation Kill was aired around here just recently and I watched every episode of it. I know it's still made with actors, but hey, how close it comes the reality?



I think the series was faithful to the book. I want to believe the book was faithful to the events witnessed by the author.


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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/24/2009 4:47:15 PM   
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Well, it's not a real fiction in the normal sense. It wasn't a pure documentary either. It was more of a representation of the book, which was an embedded reporters story, first person.

And that reporter was in the serie too. Generation Kill was aired around here just recently and I watched every episode of it. I know it's still made with actors, but hey, how close it comes the reality?



I think the series was faithful to the book. I want to believe the book was faithful to the events witnessed by the author.


Few things don't seem to match: when platoon was ambushed by Zeus AAMG and one man is in the road directing helicopter attack on it without any cover... Wouldn't it been better to get done from cover of the vehicle, like behind of front tire & engine cowling? If I can think that while watching it, certainly well trained marine should too.

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/24/2009 5:08:21 PM   
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I think the series was faithful to the book. I want to believe the book was faithful to the events witnessed by the author.



The 1st suicide battalion has said otherwise , I’ll take their word for it.......



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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/25/2009 5:43:29 PM   
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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/25/2009 11:28:02 PM   
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I think the series was faithful to the book. I want to believe the book was faithful to the events witnessed by the author.



The 1st suicide battalion has said otherwise , I’ll take their word for it.......




They have said otherwise to what ?


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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/26/2009 12:45:35 AM   
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I think the series was faithful to the book. I want to believe the book was faithful to the events witnessed by the author.



The 1st suicide battalion has said otherwise , I’ll take their word for it.......




They have said otherwise to what ?



Wright’s description of the events and his use of creativity has been respectively disagreed with by personal that shared the experience , it’s a story told to you by a Rolling Stone beat writer, don‘t read it as if it was a official AAR.

If I use your example ,Audie Murphy played himself in To Hell And Back so it must be faithful view of his experience………….

It’s a fantastic series enjoy it for what it is....

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/26/2009 1:42:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read that the series was given acclaim by the members of the unit? Go figure.

Note, I'm not suggesting ALL members of the unit thought it was a faithful representation.

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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/26/2009 7:28:59 PM   
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I think the series was faithful to the book. I want to believe the book was faithful to the events witnessed by the author.



The 1st suicide battalion has said otherwise , I’ll take their word for it.......




They have said otherwise to what ?



Wright’s description of the events and his use of creativity has been respectively disagreed with by personal that shared the experience , it’s a story told to you by a Rolling Stone beat writer, don‘t read it as if it was a official AAR.

If I use your example ,Audie Murphy played himself in To Hell And Back so it must be faithful view of his experience………….

It’s a fantastic series enjoy it for what it is....


Well as with all first person recollections, they are highly subjective. But there is no intent to mislead anyone about the nature of the source.


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RE: Alpha Company: Iraq Diary - 5/26/2009 7:33:01 PM   
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I read that the series was given acclaim by the members of the unit? Go figure.

Note, I'm not suggesting ALL members of the unit thought it was a faithful representation.


Before the series was released, there was a pre-screening at camp pendelton for the marines. A radio station interviewed marines as they came out of the theater after watching the pre-screening. Their comments were supportive and positive.

There is some internet controversy about the portrait of some of the officers but you'd have to expect that because there are always multiple sides to the story.


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