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Man Who Never Was and AoW - 5/12/2009 5:59:08 PM   
Joe D.


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While reading Sun-tzu's The Art of War, I came across the following type of spy:

Dead spies are those for whom we deliberately create false information; they then pass it on to the enemy (Chapter 13 - Espionage)

I think this was a reference to what was once called a "false cipher," but I immediately thought of the fine Brit flik "The Man Who Never Was" and this quote from the film:

"Last night I dreamed a deadly dream / Beyond the Isle of Skye / I saw a dead man win a fight / And I think that man was I."

The film was based on a true WW II story re Brit Intel's scam to trick the German High Command into shifting it's forces away from Italy prior to its invasion by the Allies.

To do this, the Brits procure a man who died from pneumo, dress him as an officer and paradrop the corpse into the sea while handcuffed to a briefcase containing fake invasion plans for Greece!

This also touches other aspects of AoW in Ch 6 "Empty and Full," i.e., by reinforcing his left, your opponent weakens his right: classic misdirection.

Any thoughts or other real life examples from AoW?
Or the movies?

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RE: Man Who Never Was and AoW - 5/13/2009 12:37:16 AM   
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Sun Tzu's manuscript is alot deeper than most folks ever realize...

It is not really "the Art of War" it is "the Principles for Using Forces". It's more about how not to have to wage war than waging a war. If it were "the Art of War", defensive principles would be included but they are not. Sun Tzu is all about the initiative and the defense never has that.

When reading Sun Tzu, what he doesn't say is just as important as what he does.

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RE: Man Who Never Was and AoW - 5/13/2009 12:53:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

Sun Tzu's manuscript is alot deeper than most folks ever realize...

It is not really "the Art of War" it is "the Principles for Using Forces" ...


There are 13 Chapters, and I recall "forces" or something similar is covered in one of them as currently I'm at work w/o the book. Defensive tactics are covered under types of terrain, as well as similar advice for not engaging a superior force.

AoW strongly cautions abt getting involved in a war to begin with -- "a very grave matter of state"/a matter of life and death, to be used only as a last resort, and so on; AoW is not an ode to combat.

Sun's advice that no nation benefits from a protracted conflict usu. goes unheeded even today.

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